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    I'm going to make a movie about this thread.

    ...as a compromise.

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    Ok. You script writers and story boarders get your pens and paper out. I'll help with keeping the computers running. Where and when we gonna meet to get this movie going. We should have enough pimped up cameras to get the job done.

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    Default off on a tangent...

    I know everyone here is talking about actual shorts or feature films, but I know the HV20/30 is an extremely popular camera for filming skate/snow/bmx vids. The footage actually gets shown and distributed. I know this isn't the kind of productions we're talking about on this thread but it's a popular outlet for up and coming film makers and hobbyists nonetheless!

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    I sharpened my #2, what would you like?

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    When I get my HV30 and necessary supplies (SGPro, Follow Focus, Bogen 503hdv Tripod, Rode NTG-2 Boom kit, etc.) in late June or so, I'm planning on shooting a 30-ish minute short with a few friends that's already been scripted and partially cast. When it's all done (about late October or so, we're shooting for) we'll probably toss it up online, if not the whole short then a few scenes and a trailer or something. During this whole process of picking up said equipment, I've been hearing good things about everything on my list, yet barely see any footage online utilizing it in a significant way (even though it would seem plenty of people have similar set-ups or use the same gear). So yeah, I agree with the OP. Get out there and shoot something "real" (i.e. scripted, with actors, good lighting, adequate sound, etc.) for the rest of us hopefuls to see!

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    Quote Originally Posted by veg View Post
    Stonkin first post split. Love it!
    Tell me how to make a 'film' with my video camera. Doesn't 'film' involve sprockets, emulsions and things?

    veg.
    nah... I used to like a lot to keep clear the difference between "recording" and "filming"... but, it can be thought as virtual film... just like any HDCAM feature is still called a film... then why not the term "filming digital"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian-T View Post
    Ha ha...elitist...now that's a description that I can tag to some names on this board (no mentioning)...lol. But nonetheless I highly respect what these same folks have to say...
    There you go. But how come some people actually think that "why should i listen to you just because you're twice as intelligent and has ten times the experience?" It actually happens on this board every day. Nothing wrong with not making films, but nothing wrong with shutting up either. Or with proving yourself. :-)

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    I'm a woodworker by day. I learned woodworking from other people who were willing to pass on the knowledge. What has always amazed me was that the best of them were able to make the most gorgeous things from the simplest of woodworking tools. They understood the tool and then used it to liberate their artistic talents and vision. I come here to learn the tool, the HV20. I'm grateful to all of you for passing on the knowledge.

    I like the way my wife watches movies. She could care less how it was made. She wants to get lost in the story (suspend disbelief). Some movies do that better than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hepabst View Post
    I like the way my wife watches movies. She could care less how it was made. She wants to get lost in the story (suspend disbelief). Some movies do that better than others.
    I agree. I wish everybody looked at it this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hepabst View Post
    I sharpened my #2, what would you like?
    1. I'd like to see something that portrays life like it really is.

    2. Not a bunch of special effect done in post.

    3. A good story, interesting locations, some of it funny and some of it serious.

    4. I love the narrative formula they use in "Desperate Housewives". It's seems like a great way to give answers and insights without especially great acting (although I find the acting above par in this series). It would allow more long shots, stills (such as the Burns effect), etc.

    5. Maybe the story could tie in to how a bunch of people come together on an Internet forum and help solve various delimas and make a movie. There are certainly some interesting characters that could be used in the story.

    6. The story could tell how people that have never met each other from around the world came together via the Internet and made a movie that one first place at a movie festival (Sundance, Cannes, etc).

    7. I guess it might be a documentary of how it was done but the underlying project would be some sort of real movie with a story.

    8. The genisis of this movie actually began right here in this thread.

    9. The trick will be how to have some of us from all over the world, shooting pieces of it. A simple example of a scene would be one of us sitting in front of our computer muttering as we type a post. That's just a silly example but I think those of you with inspiration and creativity can come up with pleny of ideas.

    10. The producers will have to come up with a project plan. The project plan needs to be setup so that nobody is overburdend. We all have families, work, and responsibilities.

    That's my two bits.

    One other thing I have begun to wonder about. It would be nice to know how we can relate times we all are in. Can we use Geenich Mean Time. I believe my time here in Missouri (USA) is about +6 or +7 GMT. I'll have to check.

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    hepabst - "I like the way my wife watches movies. She could care less how it was made. She wants to get lost in the story (suspend disbelief). Some movies do that better than others."

    I know what you mean. I watch more than I should since I setup a hidef projector and an 8 foot screen in my basement. I love getting lost in a film but than every once in awhile, I catch myself noticing the dof or something else about a scene.

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    The story could be based on an interaction between people from our various different locations via the internet. i.e. Cyber relationships and the effect of such on the people involved. Each location could shoot their scenes. Might be very interesting to watch given the variety of locations, countries, people and so on. We'd need a story line to tie it all together.

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    I have a few ideas and will work on an outline/treatment over the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hepabst View Post
    I have a few ideas and will work on an outline/treatment over the weekend.
    Thanks hpabst. Their are already a couple of us shootin' PM's back and forth about making something happen. I'm happy your interested. I just replied to this person that we need to develop our ideas a little and draft an outline for a movie project that entails anybody here that is interested in working around the world together on it.

    So those of you who have some creative juices, think about this and post your ideas. If this does turn into a real project, it might be best to start a thread that is dedicated for it.
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    If I see a character that even slightly resembles me in this thing I'll sue, dammit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CycleWriter View Post
    If I see a character that even slightly resembles me in this thing I'll sue, dammit!
    I concur. At least give me the option of signing a release and/or an above the line salary.

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    I fully intend to do one myself over the next 9 months or so. Just bought the camera and have been enjoying learning about it on this forum. Still trying to learn a lot of the technical details and preparing for what i need to know for when i can actually start shooting (have to wait til summer).

    Looking forward to the process.


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    I sense a disturbance in the force!

    Preserve the collective at all cost!!!

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    I went to film school and am deeply passionate about filmmaking. This is the first 24p camera in its price range, and I was very lucky to score one at Sears for $275 to boot. Now, all I have since that purchase is a full MiniDV tape full of tests. I'm still interested in trying out slow motion tricks with After Effects and such but I've felt like I'm falling behind...

    So, yes, there's at least one 'filmmaker' here who's sitting on his ass, and while it's not test shots of leaves, it's not Bergman and Kubrick, either... Glad to see no one flamed the hell out of this guy, btw...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CycleWriter View Post
    If I see a character that even slightly resembles me in this thing I'll sue, dammit!
    And I had been thinking about all the great characters here on this website that could be in the movie. For sure there are some great names for characters in the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CycleWriter View Post
    I spent more than 15 times what I've got into this camera on motorcycles and gear the past decade alone, but no one is expecting me to go race professionally
    If these are REAL motorcycles, not tractors-on-two-wheels with barely moving long-stroke engines and with absolute lack of mufflers (as well as with utter disrespect of their owners to other people), then I would expect you to go race professionally. Or at least to participate in amateur weekend races.

    P.S. I did not think the original post was rude. I can make one like this myself.
    P.P.S. Let's see african marty's stuff! Yeah! Yeah!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis View Post
    If these are REAL motorcycles, not tractors-on-two-wheels with barely moving long-stroke engines and with absolute lack of mufflers (as well as with utter disrespect of their owners to other people), then I would expect you to go race professionally. Or at least to participate in amateur weekend races.

    P.S. I did not think the original post was rude. I can make one like this myself.
    P.P.S. Let's see african marty's stuff! Yeah! Yeah!
    Expect a visit from some of my tractor-riding friends.


    I used to race desert, motocross, ATVs and V-twin dragbikes. Alas, too many mishaps and surgeries have done what age was inevitably to do and rendered me a near cripple. But I still ride almost all of the above, if that counts for anything.

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    CycleWriter - "Expect a visit from some of my tractor-riding friends."

    Good, maybe we can get some interesting footage of them for the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegrass View Post
    CycleWriter - "Expect a visit from some of my tractor-riding friends."

    Good, maybe we can get some interesting footage of them for the movie.
    Might violate their "No witnesses" policy.

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