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    So, I think I've figured it out, and it has to do with overrunning/exceeding the buffer.

    What you need to do is, you need to download the source files for MPlayer/MEncoder. Once you have them, extract the file. (Something like Mplayer-1.0rc2.tar.bz2) Open up Terminal and navigate to the directory into which the contents of the file was extracted. (For instance, if you extracted it to "MPlayer-1.0rc2" on your Desktop, you can just type in:

    cd Desktop/MPlayer-1.0rc2

    ...and it should take you there. (This is working from default settings -- if you've modified Bash in any way, I assume you already know how to change directories.)

    Then, navigate to the directory in Finder and open up the file mencoder.c with a text editor. (Or, if you're familiar with the command line, use emacs or vi or whatever.) NOT MICROSOFT WORD. I can't possibly stress this enough.

    TextEdit should work fine, as long as you make sure you don't accidentally save the file, then, in RichText. I'd strongly recommend TextWrangler, a free text editor, since then you can likely rest assured that you're not inadvertently adding a bunch of stupid extra stuff that word processing applications insert.

    Anyway, change this line (just do a "find" for the term "buffer_size=0x" and it should bring you to the line):

    mux_v->buffer_size=0x200000; // 2MB
    to
    mux_v->buffer_size=0x400000; // 4MB

    Then, in Terminal (you should still be in the MPlayer directory that you extracted earlier), type in:

    ./configure

    It'll run a script that configures the build you're about to do. It should take maybe thirty seconds or a minute. Text will flood in your Terminal for a bit, but don't worry, and just let it do its job.

    Now, that should work just fine, and you'll see a message near the end about "You should now be able to type 'make' and 'make install' to build and install MPlayer."

    So, type:

    make

    This will take a little longer, and text will again flood the Terminal. Just let it do what it's going to do.

    Now, I ran into an error with mine, about a few undefined libraries (iconv stuff). If this happens to you as well, it's not that big a deal. The easiest way to fix this is to just delete the MPlayer-1.0rc2 directory and start again from the top, only when you get to the part about running the configure script, this time type in:

    ./configure --disable-iconv

    and you should be all right. If you're missing other libraries, though, there's something else wrong and you should probably google for whatever the problem is that you're getting to see what you can find out about it. (Also, before you do 'make' again, make sure you've remembered to edit the mencoder.c file to change the buffer limit to 40000, as detailed above, since you ran into the problem and had to delete it the first time.)

    Anyway, at this point, after you've done 'make', you can either do:

    make install

    (though you'll probably get permissions errors, so you'll have to type in

    sudo make install

    and it'll ask you for your password which will give you the "authority" necessary to do what you're trying to do.

    However, you've probably already installed the mencoder per the instructions in the original post, so what you should do is:

    sudo rm /bin/mencoder

    which will get rid of it. And then you could just do:

    sudo cp mencoder /bin

    which will move the new version of mencoder in to where the old one was.

    The next time you run mencoder as on Eugenia's site or in the original post here, you shouldn't get any buffer errors, because you've built a modified version from source with a larger buffer size set.

    It's been working fine for me since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sajid View Post
    I use Leopard, so im afraid it will run on Intel machines only. Do let me know if anyone runs it on an Intel machine without Leopard.

    Thanks, Eugenia, for helping with the questions. Im quite busy developing another (free) application for HV20/Mac users, so it helps having someone else around meanwhile.
    I am using OSX 10.4.11 Tiger on an Intel MacBook.

    Mac24P won't run. The icon bounces once on my dock, then disappears.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Irving View Post
    I am using OSX 10.4.11 Tiger on an Intel MacBook.

    Mac24P won't run. The icon bounces once on my dock, then disappears.

    Thoughts?
    Try running the following command (from Eugenia's blog) in Terminal and let us know what the output is:

    mencoder INPUT_FILENAME.m2t -mc 0 -noskip -fps 30000/1001 -delay -0.222 -oac pcm -vf pullup,softskip,harddup,scale=1920:1080 -ofps 24000/1001 -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=huffyuv:pred=2:format=422P:vstrict=-1 -o OUTPUT_FILENAME.avi

    (If you installed mencoder properly, this should work. If you're running it from the same directory as your video files, you'll need to tack a ./ onto the beginning of all of that.)

    Of course, replace INPUT_FILENAME.m2t with your own video file name and OUTPUT_FILENAME.m2t with whatever name you want to output it to.

    Seems like Mac24P just invokes this command on whatever video files you load, from what it looks like. So if the Terminal command fails, Mac24P will probably fail, too. Only in Terminal, you should be able to see why.

    I personally don't even bother with Mac24P. I just use the above command. (Thanks again, Eugenia.)

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    I don't know where to put the Mencoder. Do I make a folder named bin? 0r navigate to a folder named bin on my HD? I have one, but if apprears to be for another application, juding by it's file path in my finder. I can't seem to locate this bin folder that requires me to authenticate once I drag the Mencoder on to it.

    Can someone please help.

    Thanks

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    I guess no one knows the answer to my question.
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    Hellooooooo. Is anybody out there? Oh well.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryanrjack View Post
    I don't know where to put the Mencoder. Do I make a folder named bin? 0r navigate to a folder named bin on my HD?
    I haven't used OSX in some time, but either /bin or /usr/bin should both work just fine. Both these folders should already be present on your computer.

    If you're not comfortable with the Terminal, try downloading MPlayer, which should include mencoder, if it's anything like Linux' MPlayer, from its homepage and then follow their instructions for installing it.

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    Default 24P work flow using Compressor 3

    Thanks NotPhil, but I found a new workflow and I don't need to download any additional software! Here's a link from apple for all those interested:

    http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306389


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    Dear all,

    I am new at editing 24p on mac. Is this instruction for mac users without FCP + Compressor (or cinema tools)? I saw the following page http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306389 which sounds much easier.

    Please clarify me and let me know both methods basically do the same thing

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    Is there any reason to use this method over the method that employs JES Deinterlacer?
    "...you never know what you're going to get."

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    I'll assume this is for capture from tape. Is this process necessary for capture from footage saved to HDD ?

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    Footage from HV20 saved to a hard drive still needs to be have pulldown removed, yes. As I understand the Canon, the pulldown is inserted early in the image capture process on the camera.

    Depending on your hardware choice for storage, you can have pulldown removed as part of the storage process.

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    Thanks. could you please elaborate on "Depending on your hardware choice for storage"? I'm considering two choices for Direct to Drive.
    FS-4 Portable DTE Recorders or
    MCE QuickStream SS - 4 Hour



    Quote Originally Posted by Dana Love View Post
    Footage from HV20 saved to a hard drive still needs to be have pulldown removed, yes. As I understand the Canon, the pulldown is inserted early in the image capture process on the camera.

    Depending on your hardware choice for storage, you can have pulldown removed as part of the storage process.

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    I found this workflow just now and I successfully succeded in the pulldown removal process... but the file is impossible to work with!! I don't know how powerful is your machine Sajid, but for a 10minutes footage, I absolutly cannot work with the file with FCP!

    That's a shame, the process was so easy!!

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    As Eugenia pointed out, HUFFYUV files are nearly uncompressed, so they are pristine quality but slow to edit. You might go the JES De-interlacer route if they are particularly slow for a more compressed but faster editng workflow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zephyrnoid View Post
    I'll assume this is for capture from tape. Is this process necessary for capture from footage saved to HDD ?
    If you already have footage on your HDD, and have Perian etc installed, you can skip straight to using Mac24P without the need for DVHSCap.

    I'm not even sure if you need Perian with Snow Leopard anymore...

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    Yes, you still need it.
    Why don't you folks just use Compressor to get your stuff into ProRes? Simple editing with too many horsepowers needed under the hood.
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    I guess not everyone can afford Final Cut Pro...

    On the other hand, ProRes is 'visually' lossless, while HUFFYUV is 'mathematically' lossless.
    Last edited by sajid; 2010 June 29th at 13:31.

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    I got Canon HV20 and did several tests today, I was really curious about HDV to Film workflow with this tiny camera.

    I was disappointed about the camera until I figured out how to record and import HDV to Film!!!

    I really suggest to read this article carefully:

    Final Cut Pro 6: 1080p24 workflow for Canon HV20 camcorder

    • Switch camera to record mode and open menu
    • Open REC/IN SETUP and set HD STANDARD to HDV (PF24) and save
    • Set filming mode to CINE MODE (not nessesary)
    • Record your clips in good light conditions
    • Connect your camera to FCPX and just import files to archive (not event)
    • Open compressor drag your clip to compressor
    • Choose -> Settings -> Apple -> ProRes -> Apple Prores 422 HQ and drag to job
    • Select job setting and modify as recommended on article Final Cut Pro 6: 1080p24 workflow for Canon HV20 camcorder
    • If you want add noise removal and sharpness or other filters
    • Enjoy the brilliant result
    • IMport clips to FCPX for editing

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