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  • < 19

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  • 20 - 29

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  • 30 - 39

    100 24.39%
  • 40 - 49

    49 11.95%
  • 50 - 59

    44 10.73%
  • 60 - 69

    17 4.15%
  • 70 and over

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    Mikey,

    I'm 36 and even I didn't exactly "grow up" with computers. I saw my first personal computer when I was 10 and I didn't use them seriously until I was in my 20s. (Home computers were worthless as far as my interests (computer graphics) went, until that point). Home video is even a new thing in my life time. As a child, I did some Super8 film-making. But by my "tweens", we were using home video. I have to say, in that era the film was still much better. It was more expensive, but more user-friendly. You could get reversal film and actually cut it physically. You didn't need much gear, just a block to keep the sprocket holes lined up when you spliced the film. I used analog video in college (I wasn't doing a film major so I never got to play with film anymore other than still photography) IMHO, video has pretty much sucked up until DV and this current generation of HDV and HD. Now it's quite amazing. I mean, seriously... we have access to image making technology that back when I was getting started I would not have dared imagine I would have. (as a consumer) But you have to know a LOT about handling it for things to go smoothly. Electronic image making is more complex than film in a lot of ways. You have all the old concerns (dynamic range, exposure, lighting, composition etc) plus all the niggling technical details of the data handling and strange limitations of digital.

    I brought up computers because in this era of digital video at least half of the issues involved seem computer related, or at the very least closely enough related to "computer thinking" that familiarity with computer concepts seems to help understanding. "Post production" has always been a major element in completing a project and having it look great. Back in the Super8 days... it was simple. the lab did the development and that was about it. If you got the exposure right, and kept everything in focus, you were golden. The (positive!) film you got back looked pretty good and you were ready to start editing on your little editing block. But now, there's a million places you can go wrong. And everything is your responsibility. There is no lab helping you with the technical stuff. You are not the only one that struggles with this stuff!

    Ironically, professionals have a lot of help with the technical stuff. In the professional world there is probably a specialist for every area you've found yourself hung-up on!

    To answer your question about expertise, I consider myself pretty high up on the photography and video/film ladder. I identified film and animation as a potential career when I was in my early 20s. Now I work professionally in visual effects (CG animation) and photography, film, and post production are my primary interests. I make short films as a hobby and I eventually hope to do it more professionally in the future. (My VFX career is healthy enough that it's hard to just walk out on though) I spent the last 20 years at least studying photography. And more than the last 15 studying and doing film, video, post production and animation (computer graphics and compositing, not traditional animation... though I have worked on a few traditional projects as a computer graphics specialist).

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    greetings from the philippines guys! i'm new to this forum, and i'll be getting my hv20 this mid-april! i'm so excited! and i already learned so much from this forum!

    salamat! (thanks!)

    akira

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    mikey1946, the numbers would stand for the year you were born . . .
    In that case I would be forced to mention 1941 . . .
    Maybe the oldest member?
    Don't kick me out for that, Mal!
    I agree with you, that it would be nice to see the years of experience of the crowd. In that event I would have to mention some 20 years . . .
    Still learning, my first posting here was a cry to explain the usefulness of the famous 35mm gear.

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    though i hate being in the majority bracket it seems like i am. and right in the middle of it too...

    /matt

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    I'm very new.. to both this forum and my HV20. My wife and I just had a new baby this year thus the need to get a video cam.

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    Looks like my age bracket is the winner...30 to 39.

    Are there actually any women on this forum besides Eugenia? I think talking about and modding your camcorder out is pretty much a guy thing.

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    I'm 40.

    I started with super 8mm film as a small kid (my mom was an active home movie shooter, she occasionally let us shoot our own films). Together with some friends, we continued the hobby until late teens.

    At around 18, i had two hobbies - making films and making music. From those two, i thought music was maybe the more important - so i decided to try to make films for living, in order to keep playing music as a hobby.

    The plan was succesful - i got into an arts school and graduated as a video artenome (bachelor of visual and media arts) in 1990. Since then, i've managed to make my living on this field. Early on, i was into commercials, music videos and other short format stuff, and everything else involving special effects. This preference hasn't faded ;-)

    Nowdays i spend most of my time doing VFX post production, 3D animation, and other stuff like that. But i still shoot and direct also.

    I'm co-partner on a small greenscreen studio - which brings me back to music: the studio is actually our band's music studio / rehearsal room, and we rent out the greenscreen stage mainly in order to pay the rent. Music is still a hobby, you see ;-)

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    I am 15, I have been writing scripts since I was 5 and started directing videos and movies on a VHS camera when I was 8. I got into video and photo editing at 9 using my sisters adobe software. I then got my first camera out of my own money which was a JVC something. I then went on to earn money from shooting weddings and events which lead me to buy a good laptop, a gaming computer, an HV20 RIG.

    I am now in disscussion with channel 4 for doing budget movie I wrote for them ($50,000 Budget) I am also directing a cooking show which for 22 hours work is paying me ($3000).

    At this age I feel I have accomplished alot with my life

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    I am 4.75...dog years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxim View Post
    I am 15, I have been writing scripts since I was 5 and started directing videos and movies on a VHS camera when I was 8. I got into video and photo editing at 9 using my sisters adobe software. I then got my first camera out of my own money which was a JVC something. I then went on to earn money from shooting weddings and events which lead me to buy a good laptop, a gaming computer, an HV20 RIG.

    I am now in disscussion with channel 4 for doing budget movie I wrote for them ($50,000 Budget) I am also directing a cooking show which for 22 hours work is paying me ($3000).

    At this age I feel I have accomplished alot with my life
    I hope you never waste your precious time with university training. There are rare people, and you are one of them, who do great things because, by luck of the draw, they are above mere normals.

    University is great. Greater is the artist who leads by example, that real genius in in self-starting and suceeding in life without the mentoring of professional failures hacking mediocrity into malleable minds. Lead on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid Welch View Post
    Greater is the artist who leads by example, that real genius in in self-starting and suceeding in life without the mentoring of professional failures hacking mediocrity into malleable minds. Lead on.
    Reid, thats outstanding is that your quote? Thats wall-worthy material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid Welch View Post
    University is great. Greater is the artist who leads by example, that real genius in in self-starting and suceeding in life without the mentoring of professional failures hacking mediocrity into malleable minds. Lead on.
    ...That's it...i'm quitting my job and chasing my dreams. Thanks for the kick....
    No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life...Albert Einstein

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    I'm older than 35, but less than 40. I'd rank myself a 1 for video. And a 4 out of 5 for audio. I still don't have a cam yet. But my Sony Cybershot does make 640x480 @ 25 fps vids. Although they look little better than YouTube quality IMO.

    I'm getting into video as a side effect of the audio. I'm a techie, so I can make most things computer work, one way or another. Although I'm not a super techie, as in I don't read books as often as I should. But I was employed in computer programming full time with a paycheck for over four years(over a ten year period). Very spotty work IMO, I actually got back into music because I figured that it would be a more "stable" career field. Doing six month contracts ONCE a year just isn't my thing. Although the pay was nice while it lasted. Not that it looks good on the resume to be looking for work on average six months a year. With an occasional year and half break in employment status.

    I don't have plans to make videos a career. I suppose I could, but I'm red/green colorblind, so I'm not holding my breath. I'm much more an audio guy. But as such, I've grown tired of the video product that others have made of my audio. Especially if you throw in adverse weather conditions. So I guess I'm getting into video to show those guys what they could have / should have done. Aided in part by recent advances in technology.

    I'm planning on getting an HG20. Although if the HV30 didn't use tapes, I'd probably get one of them myself. It's not that I completely hate tapes. It is just that having to stop recording once an hour to swap tapes isn't my thing. And having to playback from tape to digitize it on the computer isn't my thing. Plus the mechanical noise of such a mechanism. Okay, I really do hate tapes I guess. But $200 cheaper (street price) and analog INPUT is really tempting.

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    My first short film was on SUPER 8mm film camera, I was 12.

    But two years later I got the kodak model that shot super 8mm sound lol!!!.

    I loved film, but it's so inpractical now.

    To be honest I hated video until mini-DV came out, and now I wouldn't even think to use film -- I love my HV20

    I would shoot film if I had like $3 million to shoot my next film though lol!!!


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    And having to playback from tape to digitize it on the computer isn't my thing.
    Just so you know, your not digitizing it. Its already digital on tape, your just transferring the ones and zeros to your computer. Same as if you put music from itunes onto an ipod. Your not digitizing the music, just transferring it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian-T View Post
    ...That's it...i'm quitting my job and chasing my dreams. Thanks for the kick....
    Ian, I tried that! It did not work the first two times. But I think it stuck this time. Just had to cut back more on my expenses...



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    Looks like the 30 year olds have it by a nose...

    I'm a recent career changer myself, which might explain why at 38 I'm pushing through all this stuff...but in answer or response to some thoughts I read in this thread...I think technology isn't nearly as complicated as the way we approach it...You don't have to spend hours every day connected to a computer or magazine or television in order to stay up on the latest and the greatest because you can't unless you actually work in the field -- and even then. Take a moment and talk to an "old timer" who started with film and/or photography.

    Videography is a different screwdriver is what it all boils down to. No matter how expensive your camera or how many megapixels there still are some fundamentals beneath all of the glitz and shiny magnesium bodies and no matter how fancy your gear you're only as good as your eyes. Just take a stroll over to Youtube or Vimeo.

    This after working with a few people who had every advanced piece of audio/video equipment under the moon but couldn't frame an MCU to save their life.

    Being here is a good step in learning but remember you'll hopefully be learning for the rest of your life...

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    This is for the 62? year old who started this thread, beginning of which is slowly disappearing in said pub fog of unresolved links (and some Grappa!). Be that as it may...

    I suppose if you ask nicely, the admins could set up another poll; provided you're not trawling/trolling for some marketing company not directly sponsoring our creative community...sic...or if you are, doing some community service (say posting all your after effects tuts online for free? - gosh darn still struggling with that thing).

    IF of course you're just wondering if you're over the hill...you're probably 50 years ahead of other 62 year olds, so subtract that +/- your age (uhhh, let's just make that circa 38?), and I think you're looking pretty good. And if you can add some old-school cinematography experience + lighting + dealing with 'gosh-darn - very-euphamastically-termed-agents' and the like and some Ansell-adams magic...I guess that makes you as old as you want to be....(ok given some limitations...no cliff-hucking with the oompah-loompahs in some snowboard park)..

    edit: of course you would have to be off-piste to cliff huck - preferably onto said congregation of oompah-loompahs or a snow buddha - srry oxymoron - let's just say no attempting cool after-effects light thing while going switch between death cookies, espec. no doing a yardsale or doing a thumbtack..)... .....Ok so I ski.....

    Have yourself some popcorn, pops, and enjoy the ride... PS He probly kicks my ()$$ on skis...and lives in Alta...
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    agp26,

    Would you please translate your comments into "old speak" for me?

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    Man, sorry mate! I guess staying up late on Grappa and red bull and watching ski-movies is not good for the old grey cells. Whole point was (via some stoner linkages) - leverage your cinematography experience which the new-school vid guys probably don't have, add your expertise within video/i.t. which is probably beyond most in the over forty's bracket - result don't worry about your age! You're probably miles ahead of everyone 10-20 years younger. All the ski/boarding jargon probably came about watching young twenty-somethings drop off vertical faces on their planks...not that I would contemplate it...but feeling the age at 38.

    Man grappa is dangerous stuff...tastes like grape juice but 40%...treat with caution...

    PS I still have NO IDEA what they're talking about most of the time, and I consider myself very computer-savvy...half seem to be pro videographers/producers and the other half programmers writing video codecs. Suffice to say NO WAY most normal people of any age bracket would understand what the hell they were talking about. Give a thought to the 3 in the bracket above you!!
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    Default Age of HV Users?

    Just wondering how old most of the users on the forums are. Also, who here does film as a career, just a hobby, or something in betwen?

    I am just starting out in film, 17 and a senior in high school. My budget is real thin with a $9/hr job i work 5 days a week, so dont have a whole lot of equipment. However I plan to continue with film in my future, but only as a hobby.

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    im 17, a junior in highschool and just started getting into it as well.

    i hope to go to a film school after high school

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    http://hv20.com/showthread.php?t=8584

    Threads been discussed before.

    but

    I'm 18, and freshman in college. I took 3 years worth of film/television classes in High school.

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    I'm 16, a junior in High School

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    cool, nice to see other people my age around here. i did a search for this topic/thread but didnt see anything recent, guess i didnt look hard enough, sorry about that.

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