2008 March 16th, 15:45
24p and iMovie HD (A happy couple?)
Okay, so I just got myself an HV30 last tuesday.
I must say it is amazing.
The only thing I am worried about is, the only program I have to edit on is iMovie HD. I have final cut, but it's wigging out right now and not working right.
I'll get it fixed eventually.
But still, can I shoot in 24p and edit in iMovie HD or should I get Final Cut up and running. I think it's express, it might be pro though. I am not sure.
2008 March 16th, 22:41
iMovie will not edit at 24p (nor will FCE) you will need to get Final Cut pro up and running (for better or for worse you should have FinalCutStudio 1 or 2 to directly (fully) support HDV (though the earlier FCP HD (4.5) will edit it once encoded in a supported format)
2008 March 16th, 23:59
That's what I thought.
Originally Posted by IndyFX
Okay. I'll try and get FCPro up and running.
I tried to import some stuff from my camera into iMovie HD.
On most of the footage there is this ring surrounding the footage.
It doesn't show up on the camera, it just shows up when it is imported.
Any ideas to fix that. I just want to try and get this movie done in iMovie until I get FC fixed.
2008 March 17th, 00:18
gah, dont double post, the mods here have enough work on there hands!
2008 March 17th, 00:27
yeah, sorry about that. i was in the middle of post so i just thought id ask. and then i posted it somewhere else.
Originally Posted by koolpenguin89
I'm a total rookie at HD and just got an HV30 yesterday (first post here but been lurking for a couple of weeks!)
Anyway - tonight I shot some sample footage using 60i, 30p and 24p, all on the same tape.
I imported the footage into iMovie HD (not iMovie 08) and the footage came in and appears to play smoothly.
What am I missing? I understand pulldown in general terms, and based on what I've read here so far (using the search function) it would seem that I should be seeing issues in the 24p footage that I'm not seeing.
In other words, based on my limited experience and testing, everything seems to be functioning properly.
Apologies for the newbiness of this observation/question... I just feel that I must be missing something since my 2 year old iMovie HD appears to deal with the 24p mode without an issue.
Advice? Is there a primer on this somewhere that i could read? I see lots of workflow threads but haven't found one that explains this issue from a simple overview perspective.
Thanks in advance (and for this forum, which was instrumental in my selecting the HV30 for my first HD cam!)
The HV30 inserts the 24p frames into a 60i stream using 3:2 pulldown, the same method used by telecine when digitizing a movie for broadcast.
You 24p footage will be as smooth as the movies you see on DVD or TV (ehich are also 24p with 3:2 pulldown inserted) you can edit the footage as 60i in imovie.
If you want to edit the actual 24p (only, without the pulldown fields) you will need to remove the pulldown and use final cut pro (iMovie cannot edit 24p)
My suggestion is to just shoot in 30p and forget about 24p if you have the HV-30. Very little difference between the two and you do not have to worry about pulldowns.
Just my 2 cents.
2009 February 11th, 13:48
Can this forum newbie assume from what I have read here and in related threads that...
HV20 24p CineMode captured by iMovie (.mov file) can NOT be imported to FCS6/Compressor for native 24p editing in de-laced Apple ProRes 422 ?
2009 February 11th, 16:31
Not the case... capturing via iMovie is fine as long as the movie clips are not downsized (imovie as I recall has an option to downsize the movie (for easier editing and smaller storage) or store in the original HDV (1080X1440 anamorphic) size.)
If the footage was captured as full res and has not been edited, compressor will be able to remove the pulldown (creating 24p) and then re-encode to ProRes (or any other codec FTM).
I would recommend using 60i if you want to edit in iMovie (it has no progressive mode so any time based transitions or text will be drawn as interlaced , so even starting with 30i you would still end up with something in-between the two.
Last edited by IndyFX; 2009 February 11th at 16:36.
2009 February 11th, 18:19
Thank-you, IndyFX. At last I have a complete workflow. It is just amazing how many hoops the HV20 makes you jump through... simply amazing!
2009 February 18th, 13:19
I shot in 24 but when I downloaded into iMovie6, it was set for 1080i-30, speeding up all my footage and de-synching the audio, a mess! Is it possible to convert those clips into 24 or do I have to start all over again (3 and 1/2 hrs of footage)?
2009 February 18th, 14:36
You will need to be a little more clear.
All video from a ntsc HV20/30 is 30fps (60fields per second) so capturing anything (no matter what format it was shot in) using a 1080i-30 preset should have done fine.
What is the problem specifically?