You're kidding right? Try reading the previous threads - specifically 390.Originally Posted by HV20_Likeable
You're kidding right? Try reading the previous threads - specifically 390.
Ex-Firmware HackDictator (check out my own firmware <cough> 'hack' - scamtastic).
Cam: HV20 PAL | DIY: glLight(LED light) The Ski-balizer (steadicam) glKey (reflective chromakey)
I'm getting very discouraged at having to repeatedly turn away donations because they were made with a credit card when the instructions CLEARLY say not to do so. Another $20 just went bye-bye because people refuse to follow directions.
I just spoke with Canon tech.
He said that they would do a repair like that, even though he hasnt really heard about such an issue. He told me that they would reload the firmware through replacing the internal board, and that it would cost in the range of $130-150. He also told me that it mite be as simple as a flash they could do to get things back up and running again and that could be even cheaper. This was Canon US btw, but I'm sure Canon EU wouldn't be too much different.
They sent me an email with a link to a repair request form, and they said they would give me a repair cost before they actually repair it, and that I could accept/refuse the repair if I was happy or not with the price.
Repair Form Link:
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/app/pdf/dealer/FSC.pdf
I'm really interested in this project and even though I dont have a camera I could make available I am willing to help in any other way. You mite also try asking the guys over at binrev.com. There are some highly experienced programmers and hackers there, and they should be up for the challenge.
Last edited by heron88; 2008 December 29th at 16:04.
Excellent news Heron, thanks
Right, if the camera is still booting then a simple reflash should be possible (I bet they can override their own version check). If not I suspect they can still flash it via a special connector on the board, but we can cover the board swap if necessary.He also told me that it mite be as simple as a flash they could do to get things back up and running again and that could be even cheaper.
Wiesel, are you happy with that? If yes, get flashing
Ex-Firmware Hack
Cam: HV20 PAL | DIY: glLight
Does that mean we have enough to get this to the next step?
Right now, there's enough money to cover such a repair. A couple more donations came in the past few days that I didn't have to deny.
what are we waiting for? i assume flashing a HV30 is the correct next step then?
FYI; I think the whole risking a camera thing is a moot point now - there appears to be someone who's doing just that on the chdk hacking thread. It looks like he's tried (unsuccessfully) to flash the hf100, but now that there's someone willing to brick their camera, things are looking up.
I'm excited!
CycleWriter, could you please explain clearly why are you denying CC donations?
If it done via PayPal it shouldn't matter.
Please do not reduce the capabilities of this project by stating this strange conditions.
I have donated $80 via PayPal/CC to this project but to the previous chipin site and now I have no clue if the money is lost or not although it was deducted from my CC balance.
Plase explain what happened?
I checked this link a few times over the last few days and I always get "the service is temporarely unavailable".
If the repair fee is about the same in Europe than this is great news, but I have some bad news as well: someone tried the modified fw files and now we know for sure that there's a checksum.
so does that mean back to square one?
Never!
Also, all the money I got from CC's when I first took donations were passed to CycleWriter - He couldn't accept CC's, but I could ^_^ So, nothing's lost
the guys on CHDK are still trying to hammer through - hopefully something will turn about.
I have explained it several times in this thread and elsewhere. Look for it.
How about Soultrape would care abput paypal donations and Cyclewriter others??
Just thought..
Soultrape no longer has the time to handle this. That's why he transferred it to me in the first place. Many of the donations are for $2-3 and from foreign donors. It makes no sense to have to give up 4.9% of each donation, especially after an unfavorable exchange rate is applied. And the way PayPal now works, once you upgrade an account to accept credit cards they take the 4.9% of every transaction regardless of whether a CC was used or not. Using bank transfer or e-check costs the donor AND the pot nothing. That's how it has to be unless someone else wants to take over the fund.
It's great to see things moving along! (this is one of my favorite threads on the forum!)
It worked when I posted it, but now I'm getting the same. Should be back up shortly after New Year.
I've just caught up with the CHDK thread, and it's looking real interesting over there!If the repair fee is about the same in Europe than this is great news, but I have some bad news as well: someone tried the modified fw files and now we know for sure that there's a checksum.
re. checksum, have you already tried whatever ones Canon used on their still cam firmwares in the past? Were they simple or complex?
Ex-Firmware Hack
Cam: HV20 PAL | DIY: glLight
Actually that's no longer true, they made some changes this year and you can now send a 'personal' payment that doesn't incurr charges, regardless of the receiver's account type (I've actually seen this in action on an upgraded account).
As I read it you still can't fund from CCs, however the sender can now choose to cover the costs! (another option).
"Amendment to the PayPal User Agreement
Effective Date: 9 July 2008
Beginning 9 July 2008 the PayPal User Agreement is being amended as follows:
1. Changes to PayPal fee structure – personal payments
PayPal will change its fee structure to make it more attractive for our UK customers to send personal payments. We are pleased to announce that:
1. PayPal will not charge a recipient (regardless of their account type) of a PayPal payment if that payment was funded by the sender's bank account or PayPal balance and it is designated a Personal Payment
2. PayPal will apply a fee for payments received for Personal Payments or Commercial Payments if such a payment is funded by a credit or debit card, however for Personal Payments funded by a card, the sender will have the option of paying the fees for that payment
3. Also, PayPal will no longer require its customers to upgrade from a Personal Account to a Premier or Business Account once it has received a total of £250"
Ex-Firmware Hack
Cam: HV20 PAL | DIY: glLight
Sorry, but did you read that? I accept all payments made using bank transfer or PayPal balance as stated in Method 1. These do not require an account upgrade and never have. Method 2 requires account upgrade, which I am not willing to do for the reasons stated earlier. Method 3, I'm not sure that applies to U.S. transactions.
Bottom line, I can not accept donations funded by credit card. Sorry.
They didn't use any for the still cams
Seems like you didn't read what I wrote carefully. The point was that even after you upgrade, you can still accept personal payments without being charged, this is new.
Right, but as I also said, the sender now has the option of paying the fees.Bottom line, I can not accept donations funded by credit card. Sorry.
So, for anyone thinking of donating, make sure the payment is a 'personal' one, and try to fund it from your Paypal balance, bank account or an eCheque... and if you have to fund from a credit or debit card, please pay the fees or CW will have to refuse the payment.
Ex-Firmware Hack
Cam: HV20 PAL | DIY: glLight
So what do we have to do about this Checksum?
What needs to be done is to understand how the checksum calculation is performed, how the data is used in the calculation and what is the expected result.
After this is discovered the FW can be modified with custom routines and installed in the camera to perform some essential operations, such as dumping some of the remaining pieces of ROM that are not included in the FW update.
Work is ongoing to understand the routines that control the CPU cores in the camera, to see where it is best to inject the modified code.
Now it is pretty clear that the FW contains code and data for two different CPU cores, one of which manages the USB communication and the FW update amongst other functions, and we are trying to understand the process more exactly.
Cheers,
Jollyroger
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