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    It came!!! I'm so very happy!

    Here was the unboxing ceremony...sorry you guys couldn't be there



    And some closeups...







    It's so pretty...and shiny!

    I'm working on my rig right now; pictures soon to follow!

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    Saweet! I just got mine today. Pictures just don't do this little black sexyness justice. You have to see it, handle it, rub it against your face in person. ;p

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    Is it possible to scratch stupid "Vixia HV30" off the LCD?

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    Lucky bastard...that's a handsome looking cam!


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    I didn't realize it had a speckled finish. Nice, but I would have preferred piano black.

    Thanks for the pics

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    I just handled the HV30 at Fry's. Feels definitely better than the HV20. Speckled finish works well, also seems that materials themselves are a little different.

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    Congrats on the new HV30


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    The speckled finish really shows up more with the flash. It's not so "Vegas show girl" in person. Also the plastic has a matte feel to it...a lot like the XH A1.

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    Looks like a sick camera.

    BUT, does the new firmware have pulldown flags?

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    Quote Originally Posted by overdrive2023x View Post
    Looks like a sick camera.
    Should he take the camera to see doctors?

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    LOL!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by overdrive2023x View Post
    BUT, does the new firmware have pulldown flags?
    What pulldown flags are you talking about? It outputs interlaced video. From what I know, INTERLACED VIDEO HAS NO PULLDOWN FLAGS. Do you have different information? Please, do share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NextWaveG View Post
    It came!!! I'm so very happy!

    I'm working on my rig right now; pictures soon to follow!
    totally awesome!!! lucky you...congrats!

    I am glad "speckled" was clarified. When I first saw the pics, I thought it was broken up little styrofoam thingies.


    love the site - you guys rock

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    Default Nice Jobbo!

    OOH! Cheers for sharing the pics NextWaveG! My Velbon DV-7000 will be looking forward to mating with this little fellow when the price drops a little!

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    That is some good camera pr0n! I was hoping mine would come today but it didn't. Hopefully tomorrow or else I have to wait until Monday.

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    Congrats on the new camera, I have a question for you NextWaveG....should I get the HV30? I have somebody wanting to buy my HV20, so now that you have 30, how much of a difference between the 20 to the 30.

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    Aramis, When you shoot in 24p or 30p, it is not "real" 24p... instead, it is nested within a 60i stream. If you want to convert it to "real" 24p, it can be a pain. Also, if you switch back and forth between 24p mode and 60i mode on the same tape, there is no easy way for a capture program to automatically tell which is which. A lot of people have complained about this on the HV20. We are wondering if the HV30 resolves this problem in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennG View Post
    Aramis, When you shoot in 24p or 30p, it is not "real" 24p... instead, it is nested within a 60i stream.
    Thank you, I know that. I even wrote an article about this:



    Quote Originally Posted by GlennG View Post
    If you want to convert it to "real" 24p, it can be a pain. Also, if you switch back and forth between 24p mode and 60i mode on the same tape, there is no easy way for a capture program to automatically tell which is which. A lot of people have complained about this on the HV20. We are wondering if the HV30 resolves this problem in any way.
    Yep, I know about this too. If you scroll the page up, you can see that my question to overdrive2023x was of different matter. He wondered: "does the new firmware have pulldown flags?", so I asked him what pulldown flags he was talking about, because INTERLACED VIDEO HAS NO PULLDOWN FLAGS.

    The HV30 writes to tape exactly in the same way as the HV20, interlaced. It outputs video exactly in the same way, interlaced. Which means NO PULLDOWN FLAGS, period. Pulldown flags are present in progressive video only, as sort of "hints" to decoder for rendering on interlaced device.

    If you want to shoot progressive and edit without pulldown removal, shoot in 30p and edit as 60i, but the result may not look good on some TVs/players. Also, not good for export to 25p.

    Some people think that other cameras outputting interlaced video, like the DVX100, have pulldown flags Nope. The DVX100 has two modes: 24p and 24pa. The former is completely identical to what the HV20/HV30 offers, 2:3 pulldown in 60i stream. The latter is 2:3:3:2 pulldown in 60i stream, and the camera GUARANTEES that it shoots in chunks of 4 progressive frames, that is, 5 video frames. Therefore, all clips have regular and predictable structure, and all an NLE has to do is remove every 3rd frame out of 5-frame sequence, this is it. There are NO PULLDOWN FLAGS in DVX100 video.

    The XH-A1/G1 on the other hand, output as true 24p over Firewire, WITH pulldown flags. It is easy because XH records in PsF-like fashion. The HV20/HV30 cannot output as true 24p because video is read from tape as 60i. Canon could add pulldown removal feature, with smart video analysis and such, stuff that modern TVs and DVD players do, but they did not, because after all 24p is just "film effect" according to Canon. The effect is there, if one wants to edit video in 24p timeline, Canon does not care. After all, these are consumer cameras.

    I wish Canon used the same write method as it uses on XH cameras, but Canon does not want to cannibalize its pro camera market.

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    So, what is the benefit to shoot in 25p (here in europe) if you can't really edit this footage ?

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    Default Finally got everything for my HV30.. PICS

    OK, below is the cam from some different angles. I have the Raynox Digital CDR-6600 Pro .66x wide angle lense, Canon DM-50 shotgun mic, Canon BP-2L24H 4 hour battery, and the Video Innovators CH-1000 camcorder handle.

    So far I am liking everything. It all fit together nicely. I guess the only dissapointment is the handle. It is a huge handle, but feels a littlw wobbly in the 45 degree position. But I still think it will come in really handy. The whole setup feels a but heavy over all but I like that. I also picked up this really nice Velbon Sherpa, all metal fluid head style tri-pod. It was $130 from Frys Electronics, but it seems so well built I felt it was actually a good deal. Moves nicely, no sounds, all metal head.

    OK, enjoy the pics.












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    coolio, looks nice.

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    Is a collapsible rubber hood on your lens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toxotis70 View Post
    So, what is the benefit to shoot in 25p (here in europe) if you can't really edit this footage ?
    If you have the PAL version, things is a little different.
    As far as I understand, you have to edit the field dominance from upper to none in bouth the 25p clip and the sequence settings (depend on software used) and youre ready to go.
    No pulldown is needed whid the PAL version.
    Gear:
    -Hv20 PAL -Rode VideoMic -FCS2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis View Post
    Is a collapsible rubber hood on your lens?
    No it is metal and part of the 6600 Pro. It comes with a nice big lens cover for the front and a rubber one for the back when it is not on the camera. The front lens cover also works when the lens is on the camera. I seriously need to pick me up a Microfiber cloth to keep it clean. I am not about to use my shirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJDaniels View Post
    coolio, looks nice.
    I'm glad you like it. I got a BUSY month coming up in May, 3 events out of 4 weekends. And Costume Con at the end of April. Should be a lot of interesting things to film there.

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