Vimeo/YouTube Export Settings

[chaos2k]

ok thanks Eugenia ill post my first video soon

[siriusbliss]

You tube: have a look at this page:

http://www.google.com/support/youtub...45&topic=10526.

Best: 640x480, MPEG 4 (DivX, Xvid), MP3, 30fps.

Alwyn,

Have you posted your settings, etc. for this process for Movie Edit Pro?
What are your capture settings in MEP for best quality in youtube and/or vimeo?
I presume you've also posted these at the MEP forum, yes?

Thanks,

Greg

[alwyn]

Greg,

After you install DivX, export to AVI and then select the DivX codec. Under the DivX configuration, I use the "mobile" profile (320x240).

After a tip on HV20.com, I now just use MEPs export to WMV: 320x240, quality 99 (or 100 if you want to double the file size); easier to set up that DivX. Biggish files for upload but reasonable quality on Youtube. More here.

I haven't bothered with Vimeo as their videos never play smoothly here - probably too far away from the servers!

Cheers, Al

[siriusbliss]

Thanks Al, I already have DivX, and will try this again (tried it before with mixed results).
...and I have'nt yet tried the YouTube export out of MEP yet, so that should be a good test.


Greg

[alwyn]

I have'nt yet tried the YouTube export out of MEP yet

Couldn't get that to work!

[Egyptian Musk]

Will the MP4 h.264/AAC files that exported to Vimeo also play pack on an Ipod?

[alex4d]

Note that for 25p people, you should use a tool like Apple Compressor to slow your footage down to 24p - Vimeo drops frames on all footage faster than 24 so footage plays at 24p. Compressor slows the tempo of the soundtrack down too of course. Luckily audio is processed so that the pitch isn't lowered - it is the same as it was when it played at 25p.

[amigomatt]

With a balance of quality and compression, what sort of length of video can we expect to be able to render within 500MB for Vimeo?

[africanmarty]

With a balance of quality and compression, what sort of length of video can we expect to be able to render within 500MB for Vimeo?

you will get great quality if you render at 1280x720p @ 5MB/s with H.264

thats what most people recommend for it.

[amigomatt]

Thanks for your quick reply! I'm about to start uploading some stuff myself. How long would the clip be able to be at those settings?

[Elli]

I tried my first upload to Vimeo last night and found a little problem. I followed Eugenia's tutorial for Vegas 7 to Vimeo and used "Super" to make the final file. It displays fine in 16:9 on my computer, but the one Vimeo encoded is showing with black bars on the side at 4:3 mode. If you select "download the original" then that copy plays properly in 16:9. I emailed vimeo's support and they said "I think you must have gotten something wrong on the tutorial, because I played the original file in three different players and they all had the black bars on the sides that shouldn't be there." I'm not sure which three plays those are, though.

Any thoughts or tips on how I can fix this? Thanks in advance for your time!

http://vimeo.com/1110442

[arkangl]

Personally, I use Premiere 2.0, export my video to MPEG2 (using the built-in Adobe Media Converter) with highest quality.

Then I use AutoGK to convert it to XVID, keeping the resolution intact, and tweaking the filesize until I obtain the desired quality.

Then I upload the XVID file to Vimeo, and it works fine.

[africanmarty]

Personally, I use Premiere 2.0, export my video to MPEG2 (using the built-in Adobe Media Converter) with highest quality.

Then I use AutoGK to convert it to XVID, keeping the resolution intact, and tweaking the filesize until I obtain the desired quality.

Then I upload the XVID file to Vimeo, and it works fine.

yes that will work fine but keep in mind you are going through 2 re-encodes before you get to your final upload ( raw footage -> Adbobe media encoder mpeg 2 -> AutoGK Xvid ) . i would either frameserve from premier pro 2 ( what i do) or do the export back to tape method to obtain the original quality of the raw footage and convert that to vimeo, that way you only have to re-encode once.

just my 2c.

- regards Marty.

[arkangl]

frameserve from premier pro 2 ( what i do)

I had no idea this could be done.
It does sound like the best option.
I will definitely give it a try.

Thanks.

[africanmarty]

I had no idea this could be done.
It does sound like the best option.
I will definitely give it a try.

Thanks.

anytime

[africanmarty]

Thanks for your quick reply! I'm about to start uploading some stuff myself. How long would the clip be able to be at those settings?

it roughly turns out to be 42MB a minute with those vimeo settings, so you should get about 11minutes ( or just over ) Max.

[Eugenia Loli-Queru]

>followed Eugenia's tutorial for Vegas 7 to Vimeo and used "Super" to make the final file.

If you have Vegas 7 then use WMV or MP4 from within Vegas, there is no reason to use SUPER. I never suggested people with Vegas use SUPER unless in very specific situations.

>It displays fine in 16:9 on my computer, but the one Vimeo encoded is showing with black bars on the side at 4:3 mode.

It looks fine to me on Vimeo.

[Elli]

>followed Eugenia's tutorial for Vegas 7 to Vimeo and used "Super" to make the final file.

If you have Vegas 7 then use WMV or MP4 from within Vegas, there is no reason to use SUPER. I never suggested people with Vegas use SUPER unless in very specific situations.

>It displays fine in 16:9 on my computer, but the one Vimeo encoded is showing with black bars on the side at 4:3 mode.

It looks fine to me on Vimeo.

Thank you Eugenia! I figured it out. I had to set the original project settings to 1.333 PAR because that's what the original stream was. But when I encoded I had to set it to 1.0 PAR because it was already in 1.333 mode, and to apply 1.333 again would result in my original messed up version. Ahhh.. the learning curve is so steep!

[kinogo]

I have made some test and still making some to acheive the best quality vs compression for Vimeo, I want to achieve the video quality.

http://www.vimeo.com/431500

I have ask the guy is setting will post it when he answers me.

So far I have made test and I am not 100% happy
comparaison can be find here http://kinogo.com/2008/06/17/compression-test-number-1/

My Vimeo page for more compression test
http://www.vimeo.com/user323220/videos

[siriusbliss]

I have made some test and still making some to acheive the best quality vs compression for Vimeo, I want to achieve the video quality.

http://www.vimeo.com/431500

I have ask the guy is setting will post it when he answers me.

I believe he has posted his settings somewhere else in this forum.
Haven't had time to find it though.

Greg

[saintlobak]

Note that for 25p people, you should use a tool like Apple Compressor to slow your footage down to 24p - Vimeo drops frames on all footage faster than 24 so footage plays at 24p. Compressor slows the tempo of the soundtrack down too of course. Luckily audio is processed so that the pitch isn't lowered - it is the same as it was when it played at 25p.

Is this true? No offense to alex4d, I just want someone else to verify this. I live in PAL land hence I shoot 25p, and I noticed my videos jerking like hell on Vimeo.

What are the solutions for slowing down 25p to 24p on a PC?

Thanks in advance!

[rftd]

I recently exported a one minute short into an .avi file (using lagarith lossless codec) from adobe premiere pro 3.2

I was hoping that other procoder users here would be able to tell me what are the most optimal settings for upload to vimeo from here. Vimeo suggests h264 compression type, but when I use procoder, using the h264 preset gives me a .hv264 extension that i cannot upload to vimeo (it only accepts asf, asx, avi, divx, dv, dvx, m4v, mov, mp4, mpeg, mpg, qt, wmv, 3g2, 3gp, 3ivx and 3vx)

Does anyone here have a favorite way of uploading to vimeo using procoder?

Thanks in advance!

[arkangl]

Here's my latest upload to Vimeo

I don't like the quality I am getting.
Maybe it's because the video is too long, and XVID had to do some nasty things in order to get it under 500MB.

Or maybe it's something else...


- The footage was shot in 24P with a HV20.

- It was captured through Cineform.

- The Premiere project is using the 24P settings that came with the 3.2 patch. The video is 1440x1080 (not sure about that one).


This is where things get tricky :

- I'm exporting through Debugmode Frameserver (via File/Export/Movie), using 1280x720, and square pixels. I checked the deinterlacing options, and unchecked the Recompress box.

- I'm using AutoGK to open the 'signpost' file and compress it to XVID : no resizing, and a 450MB filesize (so, 2-pass encoding).


If one of the resident experts can think of something I could do to improve my future encodings, I'd love to hear it.

[africanmarty]

Here's my latest upload to Vimeo

I don't like the quality I am getting.
Maybe it's because the video is too long, and XVID had to do some nasty things in order to get it under 500MB.

Or maybe it's something else...


- The footage was shot in 24P with a HV20.

- It was captured through Cineform.

- The Premiere project is using the 24P settings that came with the 3.2 patch. The video is 1440x1080 (not sure about that one).


This is where things get tricky :

- I'm exporting through Debugmode Frameserver (via File/Export/Movie), using 1280x720, and square pixels. I checked the deinterlacing options, and unchecked the Recompress box.

- I'm using AutoGK to open the 'signpost' file and compress it to XVID : no resizing, and a 450MB filesize (so, 2-pass encoding).


If one of the resident experts can think of something I could do to improve my future encodings, I'd love to hear it.

I use AVC/H.264 @ 5-6MB with resolution 1280x720, audio is AC3. i too use frameserver though i use a program called mediacoder, and the results are really good. heres an example of mine :http://vimeo.com/1122075 the pass is 'vet' to watch it. Though if arn't getting the quality you are after i would cut the video length down and increase the bitrate and use the 500MB max to best you can.

[arkangl]

Your quality is impressive, africanmarty.

I will try MediaCoder.
I wonder why I never tried it before...