My idea for image flipper

[MAGICOFPYRO]

i use an upside down monitor for tracking and framing but I use the smaller monitor to focus and it drives me nuts trying to follow the shot when I'm not using the larger monitor so I came up with this :

I used hard plastic to mount a 3"x3" mirror and cut strips and place them around the mirror to cover sharp edges, I then drilled holes through the plate to mount underneath camera

the cover was made with fabric with a piece of the plastic hot glued to the inside to make the fabric reinforced where the cut-out is, with this design compared to some of the others i've seen online when shooting outdoors with light is practically blocked out from all directions

although it flips the image only vertically , not horizontally it's still a lot easier to follow a moving subject or frame the shot.

[jackinthebox]

A novel solution. You can find something like this in eBay DIY DV bundles

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220188840398

[MAGICOFPYRO]

A novel solution. You can find something like this in eBay DIY DV bundles

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220188840398

yeah, thats actually the picture i saw and based mine on, other than when your out side around noon and the sun is above you it's too bright to see the image so I just tweaked it a little and created the cover to avoid glare and when i went outside and tested it there was no glare at all while spinning the camera full circle.

took me about 5 minutes to hotglue the fabric together and shape

another reason i decided against it is that placing the mirror squarely against the monitor creates a double image (try it with a small mirror you'll see what i mean), its subtle but I tried tilting the mirror at different angles and it was really hard to get it positioned where the image wasn't doubled (making it pretty hard to focus) so I tried moving the mirror around and swiveling the monitor to get the best image and thats where I ended up, under-mounting the mirror and the camera monitor is easy to swivel under the fabric until its just right with no doublevision effect

[gatti]

I've tested this out, but it seems that the image that I see through the mirror is vertically flipped. How do I overcome that is see the image with true representation?

[cinemasteve87]

Unfortunately, you'd either have to flip/mount the camera upside down, or flip/reverse in post production. If you can afford a more expensive solution. Cinevate has something called a flip module:
http://www.cinevate.com/catalog/prod...dd4fb62b1f703a

Nice setup by the way!

[MAGICOFPYRO]

I've tested this out, but it seems that the image that I see through the mirror is vertically flipped. How do I overcome that is see the image with true representation?

i'm not sure you can, if it's possible i've not seen a solution, even the expensive adapters like this: http://www.adapterplace.com/componen...d,56/vmcchk,1/

only flip the image to the upright position not horizontally

that's a small price to pay for getting DOF but it's still a lot easier to follow the shot with the image upright at least and only takes a second to fix it in post by flipping the image horiz the verti.

[mattias]

please don't spread misinformation like that. my best advice is to speak only when you know what you're saying, flag all more or less educated speculation as such, or simply shut up.

/matt

[TiE_Shepherd]

i'm not sure you can, if it's possible i've not seen a solution, even the expensive adapters like this:
only flip the image to the upright position not horizontally

Not true. All the flip modules from Cinevate, SG, Letus, Red Rock (think they have one now) rotate the image 180, which is flipping both vertically and horizontally.

[MAGICOFPYRO]

please don't spread misinformation like that. my best advice is to speak only when you know what you're saying, flag all more or less educated speculation as such, or simply shut up.

/matt

I stand corrected then, but since I don't have the money to buy equipment like that (thats why I get ideas from this site to make my own) when I read:

New prism technology with proprietary Image Orientation Correction technology (IOC). This adapter "flips" the image upright

I assumed that it only flips the image upright which doesn't necessarily mean horiz. (but then again that is a lot of money if it didn't )

and Mattias I'm giving you a mulligan with the "shut up" comment, theres more tactful ways to speak, but point taken next time if I'm not sure i'll "shut up"

[mattias]

I'm giving you a mulligan with the "shut up" comment

for the record i didn't tell you to shut up. i said it's better to shut up than to speak if you're not sure what you're saying. i stand by that statement and the words i used, how you interpret them and how you think they may or may not apply to you is your problem. ;-)

anyway, i just wanted to say that i just bought two porro prisms from surplusshed and combining them gives a full 180 degree rotation. i'm not sure whether to use them for orienting the image from the viewfinder or in the adapter. i'm not quite sure if the light loss and abberation in such cheap glass is a good idea in the main optical path. i'll post this here as well as the other thread about flipping the actual image and we'll see where it catches on.

/matt

[MAGICOFPYRO]

for the record i didn't tell you to shut up. i said it's better to shut up than to speak if you're not sure what you're saying. i stand by that statement and the words i used, how you interpret them and how you think they may or may not apply to you is your problem. ;-)

anyway, i just wanted to say that i just bought two porro prisms from surplusshed and combining them gives a full 180 degree rotation. i'm not sure whether to use them for orienting the image from the viewfinder or in the adapter. i'm not quite sure if the light loss and abberation in such cheap glass is a good idea in the main optical path. i'll post this here as well as the other thread about flipping the actual image and we'll see where it catches on.

/matt

alright, fair enough, i was looking at your profile, you worked on some pretty cool projects, it's hard to tell on this site who are working pro's (not me) but do let me know if that works, i wanna shoot a short film, i have a friend who makes screenplays and he wants to write something, so i'm sure i'll have a bunch of questions.

some new videos:

http://vimeo.com/725493
http://www.vimeo.com/732589