HV30 announced (and other new developments in the world of [moving] picture taking)

[novulet]

On camcorder.about.com they expect that the Canon HV30 will be announced, it will have 3CCDs, a 10x optical zoom, and the new soft-light LCD feature (whatever that may be.) Seems probable, no pictures yet and no words on any other features.

http://camcorders.about.com/od/canon.../Canon2008.htm

I doubt that they'd put in some good manual controls because it would cannibalize on their higher end models, but if they would... damn, I would have to start looking at selling my HV20 after I just got it!

[ForwardLooker]

http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Home...HV30/index.asp

[novulet]

Wow, it seems the only major difference is the colour.

[Rikki]

LCD has moar pixels and its black - that it? A year on?

[novulet]

Well at least they didn't use the year to dumb it down

[Dodgy Nick]

One difference between the 'announcements' on the two sites:

On the camcorders website they said the HV30 will have 3 CCDs. On Canon's european website they claim it will still have the CMOS sensor. I'm inclined to believe Canon's website rather than some other website. So not much difference after all. We'll have to wait another year and see what the HV40 brings!

[Ian-T]

That's strange...but the first site suggested the cam would have 3CCD's ...but the Canon site shows it's the CMOS.

It looks like the same basic cam but black (which might be a good selling point for some). I'm really interested in finding out the bit rate for the upcoming flash cams.

Edit: Dang..... Spoiler....you beat me to the punch

[Dodgy Nick]

I'm more interested in the HF10 to be honest. No moving parts means less chance for things to go wrong and zero noise from the camera. The only difference between the HF10 and the HF100 that I can pick up is that the HF10 has a mic input. I think bringing out the HV30 as it is was a mistake. Why would you buy that, if you can get the HV20 for (presumably) cheaper? They should have at least put some more effort into it to make the deal sweeter, like lanc control or something else.

[Worley]

The HV30 has a VIVID LCD screen, the HV20 does not.
The HV30 has version 28 connection kit, but the HV20 has version 24.
And the HV30 allows for longer record times with the new long life battery:

HDV: Approx 4hrs
DV: Approx 4hrs 50mins

I don't see why the HV20 could not benefit from this battery too.

So, who's going to upgrade?

[Mal]

If those really ARE the only changes (???), they should have named it HV20¼.

[Dodgy Nick]

If those really ARE the only changes (???), they should have named it HV20¼.

or even HV20 rev 1 (black)

I'm definitely not upgrading this year, I have a lot more mileage on this baby until I can look at whatever the XHA1's successor will be in 2009 or whenever.

[Ian-T]

I wonder what the selling price would be? This is essentially the same exact camera as the HV20. Why would one want to buy this at a much higher price (assuming it's at the same retail price as the HV20'S original). Anyways...I'm also looking at the HF10...yeah...no moving parts. The image has to at least be as good as the HV20's for me to consider it. It is 1920x1080 and does 24p and 30p. But I'm still leary of AVCHD.


Edit: Ok I found out it will start at $999.

[PTravel]

camcorderinfo.com has what appears to be more reliable information:







"Today at CES, Canon announced the Vixia HV30 ($999 MSRP), the replacement for the popular HV20. The new HDV camcorder features an all-black design, a multi-angle Vivid LCD screen, and the ability to capture in 30P mode. Canon now offers a total of five camcorders in their newly christened “Vixia” high definition line-up.

“With the exception of those features, the product is the same as the HV20."

. . .

"The HV30’s LCD screen has been upgraded to resist solarizing, and the camcorder supports the Canon BP-2L24H expanded battery pack, which the HV20 does not."

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...HV30-34020.htm

And "Vixia"? Where do they come up with these names?

[Oceanzen]

Whoops - I didn't realise there was already a thread.

What will the PAL version have - certainly not 30p?

Any links to PAL HV30 news?

[Ivan Fuentes]

I wonder if you could "get" that HV30 firmware

[Sean Michael]

I also wonder if HV30 firmware includes 24p pulldown flags?

[bluegrass]

Better zoom toggle, black, better LCD, & 30p are certainly not compelling reasons for HV20 owners to upgrade. Canon is dancing to get extend the sales of an HV20 like camera.

The future of video capture will lie in capture to memory. I can see 16 gig flash memory in the 5$ to 10$ range around the corner and that should finish off the tape & HD capture forever. If we can purchase 20 hours of video capture for $100 and it be removable and slipped into a computer for processing why would any other storage on board the camera be wanted. Than the next step will be to push the resolution envelope.

From what I've seen in extra features such as on the 5th season of 24, the major difference between the 20's capablility and half million dollar hollywood cams is the cost of lenses. It was pointed out their cameras have $200,000 lenses in them.

[RicanJoe]

"True 25p shooting"
"analog to digital"

[Oceanzen]

PAL specs are here
http://www.canon.co.uk/for_home/prod...hv30/index.asp

[Lunchbox]

DAMN IT! the WD-H43 wide angle lens will look funny on the black body.

[Lucasberg]

If 30P is better for fast action/slowmotion I might consider buying it.

Any opinions on 30P for action Slow-mo ?

[Lunchbox]

Better slow mo than 24p but inferior to 60i.

I shoot 30F in XH-A1 as it has the sort of film look. 24P is too jittering in motion and horizontal panning.

It's good news for me since I can shoot using both XH-A1 and HV30 in 30F and 30P mode.

[Frank]

"The HV30’s LCD screen has been upgraded to resist solarizing, and the camcorder supports the Canon BP-2L24H expanded battery pack, which the HV20 does not."

But...I am using a BP-2L24H with my HV20. Is it going to blow up?

[bryant]

So... who is up for dumping the HV30 firmware and seeing if it works on the HV20?

[RicanJoe]

So... who is up for dumping the HV30 firmware and seeing if it works on the HV20?

That my friend, will take someone with alot of courage and or a big budget.