Shia Lebeouf naked

[Gillvane]

Youtube music video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scctp...has_verified=1





What do you think of the video and the music?

I'll post my thoughts on the video after a few comments so you can watch it to form your own opinion.

[blondandfun]

You cant ask for judgement without explaining the context of the clip, that is narrow minded of you. You say its just a music video? Its just a slow piano piece dude! Just spill it and get real!

Any stupid kid with a used t2i can create a cool video, give us some context!

[GeorgeMaier]

Truly amazing avant garde short film set to Sigur Ros’ Fjögur píanó from valtari, as deligated by the Valtari Mystery Film Experiment to the amazing Alma Har’el, a very acclaimed experimental music video director, as i'm sure most of us know she was born in Israel and now working from the US. Now, this short has received massive amount of hate and negative review since being uploaded, as we can expect from any avant garde work, but like always it’s simply unfounded. It’s idiots who can’t see past mainstream genre conventions. This is an avant garde piece with real and substantial substance. I think this short is not only incredible, but I think it’s Shier LaBuff’s best acting to date. Now, obviously, Shier is a mainstream actor, we know him well from Transformers, and before that the dimwitted Stanley Yelnats in Holes - This is his first real deviation from the Hollywood money tree and it suits him so well. I’m so glad that the valtari mystery film experiment run by Sigur Ros is investing money into the avant garde and independent film market. It’s needed, and it’s been too long waiting. This short is brilliant. I won’t listen to anyone who says otherwise. Watch it. Enjoy it. Embrace it.

I saw this video yesterday when it came out, as I'm a massive Sigur Ros fan I make sure to stay completely up to speed. It's the best in the series of shorts set to their music from the project so far.

[blondandfun]

Sorry but with the advent of cheap videomaking tools, i run into a lot of pretentious "image oriented" people making sexy fashion shorts Like this for their own ego and their perceived "talents" in seeing beauty.

All you have done, george!m is spew the rhetoric given to you ( but its nice to hear from you!)...

"avant garde" is a label, its not an intellectually stimulated response. Sure its a " deviation", but again, im waiting for an intellectually original response nit handed to you on a platter for christ's sake.

Send from my ipad.

[Dr. Benway]

sexy fashion shorts

You do have a point.

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[cgbier]

Ballett is for fags.

[GeorgeMaier]

5:38-6:20 is some of the best film I've ever watched. The way in which in a moment he realises he has lost everything, including himself, and he falls apart. I like this film because I find every tone it represents to be hyper-relatable and intimately understanding of elements of my own life.

I don't usually dwell upon semiotics because I find it important that each viewer get their own deeper meaning from texts, but to me the butterflys most definately represent the lost freedoms. Most of us have dead butterflys pinned to our walls... If we have photographs of ourselves with friends when we were younger, family members we've lost.... These are the dead butterflys. The problem is that the two characters no longer have any alive butterflys. They are lost in this endless cycle of torture and hollow gratification in fear of losing each other. And i think that is beautiful as a storyline.

[MrMicah]

Ballett is for fags.

That was harsh cgbier. :-(

As for the clip:

- Music: Not my partcular taste, but it seems well executed.
- Video: Gratuitous use of nudity that does not seem to be required. The cheap titilation potentially demeans the proper appreciation of the music.
- Acting: Courageous of Shia to challenge himself in this way. Credit to him.
- The post: Hmm, well I guess it is in the pub, but maybe it should be in the conservatory.

[Dr. Benway]

That was harsh cgbier. :-(

Not for the self-assured or thick-skinned.

[GeorgeMaier]

Ballett is for fags.

What about Billy Elliot, he wasn't gay and he loved to dance! I know he wasn't real and all, but still.

[Dr. Benway]

Sheesh! Take the comment with a grain of salt!

[MrMicah]

Not for the self-assured or thick-skinned.

Well ... If you say so. ;-)

[Gillvane]

Well, I thought it was pretentious crap. I didn't like the editing, lighting, or the obvious attempt to be deep and meaningful in a symbolic way. It just felt to me like trying to hard to be art, rather than just being art.

Maybe it's not the lighting but the color correction, or the wardrobe and set design choices? It's just so washed out and bland looking, kind of beige and the skin tones aren't nice.

Do you really need butterflies to symbolize freedom? I'd rather see them run through a field of real digital butterflies created in AE. At the least the visuals would be nice, and not some angst ridden attempt to make a symbolic gesture of punching a framed collection of butterflies, and so forth.

It's definitely not erotic, even though there's an attractive naked girl in the video, something you know I do support. The over the top attempt to be "art" sucks all the sensuality right out of the video so the naked girl is IMO wasted eye candy.

I didn't like it at all.

That being said the piano composition is good and I thought Shia did a great job. After seeing that I'd want to cast Shia is something besides a shallow action movie, something like Drive. IMO, most of the "OMG! This is the most awesome art I've ever seen. It made me cry!" posts were from 15 year old girls. Show them a guy and a girl arguing and no matter what else you do, they will think it's art because it's so emotional! If that's your demographic, then it's a hit.

In any case, mission accomplished. A Bazillion more people than before have now heard of this relatively obscure band and some of them will buy music downloads. If you can get a naked major Hollywood actor in your video, do it.

[Gillvane]

You do have a point.

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I like dancing. I wish they had both been wearing sexy fashion shorts. I might have liked the video then.

[GeorgeMaier]

Maybe it's not the lighting but the color correction, or the wardrobe and set design choices? It's just so washed out and bland looking, kind of beige and the skin tones aren't nice.

I know what you mean, the washed out sort of look. I don't mind it - It's like the complete contrast to Baz Luhrmann's work. That washed out look is actually becoming increasingly noticeable in British film I might add... You will notice it in sections of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, The King's Speech, The Iron Lady - to give just a few examples. Also in some of Sigur Ros associated work such as Go Quiet (Jonsi's solo film). The washed out look also is finding it's way to British tv, via the BBC, including some dead pan comedy shows, there was one that I can't remember the name of that used it extensively throughout.... I'll let you know if/when it comes back to me. I like vivid colourful shots, and I also like the shots where the colours are cut out.

I think that seeing them running though a field of butterflys would not have had the same effect at all, they needed to show disconnect from that, seperation from these "colourful events of the past" like you can see them there, but not real. It's like that gay moment Frodo and Sam have on Mt. Doom "I can't smell the Shire, I can't see Gandalf's fireworks" ect.. - If we'd have seen this colourful past we would have been able to have escaped from their reality to this happier place, which is something they can't do.

It's okay to be a fan of actually showing things rather than hinting at them symbolically, that's a standard deviation between the more art house and the more mainstream among us. Both sides of the argument are fine and valid. Art house tends to allow more personal understanding and thus a more intimate connection with the film though, in my opinion, which is why I like it.

[Gillvane]

It's okay to be a fan of actually showing things rather than hinting at them symbolically, that's a standard deviation between the more art house and the more mainstream among us. Both sides of the argument are fine and valid. Art house tends to allow more personal understanding and thus a more intimate connection with the film though, in my opinion, which is why I like it.

You can put symbolism in your video in a way that it adds to the video. It's a layer that's there to enjoy for those that like it, but not necessary for the video to be entertaining.

And then you can strip away all the entertainment, and put JUST the symbolism in an attempt to be artistic, which just comes off as pretentious and not very entertaining. It allows people to watch it and feel superior, because the "art" speaks to them and not the "mainstream" or the unwashed masses.

I like the first sort of video production, not the second. Can I see all the symbolism? Sure. But it's just pretentious, and not entertaining. It's possible to do both at the same time.

[GeorgeMaier]

It allows people to watch it and feel superior, because the "art" speaks to them and not the "mainstream" or the unwashed masses.

That certainly does not speak for me. I don't feel superior, in fact my enjoyment of this film is nothing to do with anyone else per say, it's rather that it connects to a part of me that until not didn't feel connected. And that's a very personal relationship between me and the film. It's a similar effect to that of Manhatta 1921, one of the first consciously avant garde works - and one I got to explore quite deeply while writing my dissertation on avant garde and niche market film.

[GeorgeMaier]

What I'm trying to say by that is that I know I'm bias towards the more avant garde/art house work, but I don't care, it's where my heart lies

[Gillvane]

What I'm trying to say by that is that I know I'm bias towards the more avant garde/art house work, but I don't care, it's where my heart lies

This?




I don't see anything pretentious about it.

[GeorgeMaier]

Ewww, at that replaced soundtrack ruining one of my favourite avant garde works - but yes, yeah that one. And i'm glad you don't! Not all avant garde work has to come across as pretentious. In my eyes very very little of it actually is.

[Gillvane]

Ewww, at that replaced soundtrack ruining one of my favourite avant garde works - but yes, yeah that one. And i'm glad you don't! Not all avant garde work has to come across as pretentious. In my eyes very very little of it actually is.

What a great new discovery. I'm an instant fan of Cinematic Orchestra.

[GeorgeMaier]

I love Cinematic! Proud owner of three of their albums

[Gillvane]

Art:?


http://music.yahoo.com/photos/yoko-o...340137861.html

[GeorgeMaier]

I think it's up to an individual to decide for themselves really. That stuff doesn't speak loudly to me, but I can see why it might to someone else

[GeorgeMaier]

Art? To me it is. (Partly because I filmed it) - But I connect with what this represents. And to some of my friends too, this would come across as art - I was painting a picture of not only my hometown but my community, and the passion we all share. People who relate to that might understand it, but people from other backgrounds might find it dull.