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    Quote Originally Posted by lordtangent View Post
    garm99,

    You say the lens module is very easy to disassemble. How hard do you think it would be to strip out the stock lens and replace it with a "c-mount" or some other type of lens mount to mount a manual lens? Maybe parts of the housing could be used to hold the new lens mount. I imagine one could epoxy the parts in to the chassis of the old lens assembly if there is enough space in it.

    IMHO, the lens is the worst part of the HV20.
    1. Lens module consist 3 motors - for zoom, focus and aperture. Than it is possible to replace them I do not represent.
    2. The important condition of any optical systems is concurrence of optical axes and parallelism of optical planes. To make iе self - very hard.
    3. But at presence of the corresponding equipment to make c-mount it is direct on the case of sensor, i think probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garm99 View Post
    3. But at presence of the corresponding equipment to make c-mount it is direct on the case of sensor, i think probably.
    you mean if we remove the front lens elements, we can just slap on a 35mm lens and it will work?

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    Garm99,

    Would you say that replacing the IR filter in the HV20 was as difficult as it was in the Canon Digital Rebel 300D http://ghonis2.ho8.com/rebelmodnew.html ?
    Or is it easier? It seems like there are lots of opportunities for me to easily make a mistake, and seriously damage the system. (I'm particularly worried about prying off the IR filter if it is glued on very well. Are you saying that there is NO glue used to keep the IR filter in place? Just rubber, which is very easily separated from the rest of the unit?) What are the most difficult steps?

    Thanks...
    Glenn

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    First of all difficulty depends on your experience. For us it was easy.
    We have not found out some any glue which holds the filter, only an elastic band from rubber.
    The main difficulty - to overcome fear to damage dear HV20
    A dust was probably the main problem. Now i begin post guide

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    Necessary things:
    Bright light, pure table, set of screw-drivers, thin and thick tweezers, cover from a box of CD (to keep sensor from dust), two boxes for parts and screws, lenspen



    Glass preparations 7.5x8.5x2


    Sandpapers for selfmade filter sides polish
    Last edited by garm99; 2007 December 25th at 02:41.

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    These screws hard - I have broken one !



    Last edited by garm99; 2007 December 22nd at 14:09.

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    warning ! avoid flash capasitor high voltage !
    Last edited by garm99; 2007 December 22nd at 14:51.

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    very gently please



    (if modify this part - HV20 can read full size SD cards)



    Last edited by garm99; 2007 December 23rd at 06:30.

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    These screws hard and long

    Immediately put the sensor module under a CD BOX cover or similar for prevent from dust
    Last edited by garm99; 2007 December 25th at 03:02.

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    install prepared a piece of glass (clear it with Lenspen)


    Gentle with tweezer remove IR cut filter and immediately assemble sensor module
    Last edited by garm99; 2007 December 25th at 02:57.

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    Very Very Nice Work Garm!!!

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    FAntastic work and GREAT contribution to this forum, garm99!!

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordtangent View Post
    garm99,
    IMHO, the lens is the worst part of the HV20.
    /offtopic mode on

    i must disagree... for the buck, this 6.1-61 does a great job!!!

    calculating proportions of CMOS and Film, it's range equals a 35mm 28-280 lens... which is pretty flexible, and makes just excellent focus at surprisingly short distances... it surprised me, i must say!

    of course... the idea of a prime 1.2f 50mm pointing light directly towards the CMOS, without having to loose light through camera's factory built in lens.. sounds kinda nice!

    /off topic mode off

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    Could you upload the larger images onto this website? If you hit edit on your old posts, then advanced at the bottom, you can upload them (paper clip and attachment management). I'm unable to access the images on the .cc website where you have them. (Might require a login.)

    Also, this should be helpful to those who wanted to paint the camera black or dark gray. I was thinking about it consumer cameras are silver, prosumer are often dark gray and pro are black (at least on my Sony cameras).

    This is very helpful for those who wanted more detailed instruction on disassembly than Jerry Lee was able to provide in the flip hack section.

    I'd really like to look at those bigger pictures though.

    Thanks,
    Duke

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    awesome thanks!

    oh yeah painted black would be cool.. maybe some sort of new logo, like
    hv20 AMG.. or MV20

    or Canon Type R

    lolz

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    OK
    at soon i edit my old post for fixing large img links. Olso upload all photos without crops and editing in one zip file. Possible do it on ftp dot h20 dot info ? or rapidshare.com ?

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    you can ftp to hv20.

    Anonymous username and password
    Upload to hv20.info/yopu
    Last edited by Mal; 2007 December 23rd at 08:11. Reason: spelling
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    Yes, you can ftp to our own server.
    Here's the official instructions:

    Step-by-step instruction for free movie & picture hosting on HV20.info:

    - you can ftp to hv20.info; the folder will automatically be chosen for you, just use "hv20.info" (without quotation marks) as the location
    - use "anonymous" as login and password; without quotation marks of course
    - max file size is 250MB per file
    - NO COPYRIGHTED MUSIC PLEASE; do NOT use copyrighted music for your clip; it's not allowed unless you have permission by the author & the label
    - please only upload HV20 related material; I'll keep an eye out for unrelated items and remove them
    - use a free ftp program to upload, such as FileZilla on the PC: http://www.download.com/FileZilla/30...ml?tag=lst-3-7
    - you need to link to your file like this: http://hv20.info/yopu/yourfilename.extention (example: http://hv20.info/yopu/hello.gif )

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordtangent View Post
    IMHO, the lens is the worst part of the HV20.
    I, on the other hand, think it does a pretty good job for the price ;-)

    I guess the main benefit of using C-mount lenses would be manual focus and F-stop settings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan Fuentes View Post
    /offtopic mode on

    of course... the idea of a prime 1.2f 50mm pointing light directly towards the CMOS, without having to loose light through camera's factory built in lens.. sounds kinda nice!

    /off topic mode off
    on a second thought... the whole adapter idea is based in the current HV20's lens focusing the ground glass (or other 35mm sized surface)... remember, the HV's CMOS is about 8mm sized (1/3 inch): without camera's built in lens, you just couldn't get any way to focus on the ground glass!!! if you just bolt on 35mm lens, you WILL see only blurry stuff.

    sorry for the off topic! won't happen again!

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