Thanks! Now I understand his posts...Originally Posted by HueyNRolf
Well of course, I don't think you'll see Krute walking around Perth gladiatored up, but within the walls of this forum. . . WATCH OUT!
Thanks! Now I understand his posts...Well of course, I don't think you'll see Krute walking around Perth gladiatored up, but within the walls of this forum. . . WATCH OUT!
Meaning what?Thanks! Now I understand his posts...
You nailed it!
In run-and-gun situations, you got to be pretty harsh in editing, too...
Meaning what??!Thanks! Now I understand his posts...
EDIT: Nothing to add? Thought not. I'll check back tomorrow. Maybe you'll have thought of something by then.
Last edited by Jim E; 2012 June 3rd at 07:11.
That's the whole point of the discussion I was attempting to raise. At issue are not shakiness, clipped sound, ungrammatical language, distorted representations of faces... due to a lack of technical competence. At issue is artistic choice, as Janke so elegantly states it. I can only imagine a "grammatically correct" "edit" of Faulkner's The Sound and the Fury (actually, I'd rather not).
As Daniel succinctly put it in this thread, a film is made "the way the film maker wanted it made". If I as a viewer don't like it, I don't have to watch it.
Meaning that if in a discussion I feel that my interlocutor is not interested in hearing my point of view, I fail to see the need to continue the discussion...
Not necessarily. You make a film as good as you can. That doesn't always mean the result is you wanted it.
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
Correct and you can play the 'artistic choice' card to excuse your blunders to protect the ego.Not necessarily. You make a film as good as you can. That doesn't always mean the result is you wanted it.
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
Exactly. You can control making the film, but you cannot control the result (that is, its reception). Some authors, filmmakers... believe that they can literally "program" an audience to react in certain ways. Reading, watching movies... is a two-way street, the recipient has loads of options available to work with the presented material... if he or she chooses to do so. Of course, certain genres, like horror, have a very specific author-audience dynamic... but still, it's the viewer's choice to accept a certain playing field and to follow its rules.Not necessarily. You make a film as good as you can. That doesn't always mean the result is you wanted it.
That's actually not what what I meant. I meant that your skills might not be sufficient to achieve the results - in IQ, exposure, composition, audio, etc - you want.
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
Almost stopped watching Blue Bloods because of that! After 10 mins on the first episode!
I couldn't agree more on that, unfortunately!
Like, you want that Transformer look? Get that 99$ plugin with presets included!....Come On, if you can't do it on your own...
Well, some can shines over others. But like in everything, you need some basics and talent. If you don't have them, you'll simply participate to YouTube's Growth!Total amateurs like me think of ourselves as One-Man-Bands, because that's what we are.
In of the funniest movies I have ever seen the projectionist put the film in upside down and some of the audience tried headstands to watch it.
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Well. Playing, Kruste is from Oz. They have pretty close relationship to upside down. He might not even laugh about your post.
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"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
Thanks cgbier you made my day
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Bullshit! You failed to answer my question until after I had signed off, that's what you failed to do! I've got your number, pal...Meaning that if in a discussion I feel that my interlocutor is not interested in hearing my point of view, I fail to see the need to continue the discussion...
But worse than being timid and sneaky, you sound like a bit of a wanker, too. A bit "toffee-nosed", as the British say. So, you accidentally stumbled into accuracy - I'm not interested in hearing your point of view, Toff.
Me? Laugh? About being upside down? It's a pain I know only too well, CG... LOL!!!!!Well. Playing, Kruste is from Oz. They have pretty close relationship to upside down. He might not even laugh about your post.
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What I really enjoyed was you calling me "Kruste". Now, that's funny!!
Exactly!
The Incompetent Wanna-Be Film-maker's Guide To Success: Shoot at anything, and call what you hit the target.
It deserved repeating.
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Yep. I'd say JFP productions is a good example of amateur excellence, Drapes. As illustrated by their recent film, "Awake", in the Footage forum.
Those people willl never have to excuse poor craftsmanship or technical ignorance by playing the "artistic choice" card. They've done their homework. They're good, competent film-makers.
You do realize that if the film is threaded upside-down, it will also run backwards... even funnier!
Nah, I think it makes me look like a clown!
But I'll do it!(For a little while.)
Sorry, Krute, I had the keyboard set to German. Safari's auto correction did the rest.
Kruste = crust...
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
Hey! Hey! Hey!!!
Don't get used to it, kids. Krusty's got enough problems with the (nudge nudge) copyright police, as it is!!
Hey, you hear me complaining?!
Yes, exactly! The main problem I think (why most videos looks totally amateur and, in 80%+ of the cases, looks like sh¹t) is because they try to imitate 200 millions$ movies with less than 20$ budget. They add fake explosions (simple explosion on a black background, available for free on some websites) and then they put it over their footage. Or they try to make "hot pursuits" with good cars (let's say they borrow Dad's 2012 mustang) but they shoot it using high shutter speed and it simply look like they're driving 50Km per hour...[I would personally try a slower shutter speed (> more blurry movement) and increase the playback speed to create some sort of speed illusion.
I'm a fan of Sci-Fi myself, but I never figured out how to make a credible short film about it, as VFX are the main issue when dealing without a proper budget (real VFX or real CGI animators).
The best option is to work with what you have, make it simple and try to do the best out of it. But it's not always as simple as I'm writing it, unfortunately...
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