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    Default "Within The Institute" - Storm In The Orphanage (Official Video) -- GH1

    Hey guys;

    Just wanted to share this with you. Very happy with this, despite a few obvious problems.

    I won't go into too much detail with it, just want to share it and show all my second ever music video.



    Shot in one day, edited in maybe 2-3 weeks.

    Yes, there is some masking issues that I couldn't fix.

    Shot on the Pansonic GH1, 40mbps hack. Budget was about 200 bucks (food, straitjacket and mask).

    Criticism welcome

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    Loved it, Daniel. Not only that, I'd say these guys had me bobbing my head the entire time. Bookmarked.

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    Thanks Mark! I'm very proud of it. I think for my second music video, we knocked it out of the park. Can't wait to get cracking on the next one now

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    Great work ... all ... from the BTS to final.

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    Nice. Turned out pretty good dude.
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    I didn't spot any obvious problems. Do you mean the sync?
    You did a fine job. Well done, Daniel.
    The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HueyNRolf View Post
    You did a fine job. Well done, Daniel.
    Thanks Huey. Appreciate your input.

    Regarding the issues in editing, if you watch the video again... there is a shot with all of them on screen in the straitjacket. The band member really moving around trying to fight his way out of the jacket... there are obvious masking lines that move around him. I couldn't fix these with any tricks I knew.
    This was shot with only one straitjacket, so I had one band member dress up, stand in the shot and do his thing... then swap it with the next member. To save money, I made it an fx shot.

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    well done!

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    Great Job!

    The singer reminded be a bit on Neil Young In between.
    "It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"

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    Looks good, nice camera moves during the band footage, solid editing, interesting footage to cut with the band footage. Well done.

    Seriously didn't see an problems with the FX shot, and not going to look for them. If they don't punch me in the eye, then it's not a problem.

    IMO, it would not have hurt the video to have a cute girl in there somewhere. Does it really need it? Not really, but my rule of thumb is better to have a cute girl in a music video than not.
    "beautiful girls are the cheapest special effect"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillvane View Post
    IMO, it would not have hurt the video to have a cute girl in there somewhere. Does it really need it? Not really, but my rule of thumb is better to have a cute girl in a music video than not.
    True, but you can't get everything right the first time Gill!


    Quote Originally Posted by Gillvane View Post
    Looks good, nice camera moves during the band footage, solid editing, interesting footage to cut with the band footage. Well done.
    Thankyou very much.

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    The intensity of the band members comes through very effectively. For me, perhaps a number of closeups (even extreme closeups) would have raised the energy level even more. Liked the work with locations and color, and the editing.

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    Great job on the vid!


    This line just cracked me up:
    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Rutter View Post
    Budget was about 200 bucks (food, straitjacket and mask)
    That just reads so....so.....RIGHT!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 View Post
    Great job on the vid!


    This line just cracked me up:


    That just reads so....so.....RIGHT!!!
    The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 View Post
    That just reads so....so.....RIGHT!!!
    Are you saying it looks like a 200 dollar video? Just wondering...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Rutter View Post
    Are you saying it looks like a 200 dollar video?
    Err....no?

    I meant you spent ALL the money on food, a straightjacket and a mask. THAT is just THE WAY IT SHOULD BE!!!


    Funny how you came up with the "$200 look" thing, though. That either says something significant about yourself, or how you perceive me.
    You're a strange one, Daniel! (and I mean that in a nice & caring way.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 View Post
    Funny how you came up with the "$200 look" thing, though.
    No no no, you misunderstand my reaction. I didn't take it as an insult. I didn't know how to take it, hence why I asked. It's all good, I'm not insulted either way.

    And yes, I agree. Money should be better spent on WHAT your shooting, not what your shooting WITH

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    Phew! Good then. I thought you were pissed off.

    You should put that as your sig:

    "Budget was a few hundred dollars which was spent on food, a straitjacket and a mask."


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    I laughed because I could see the funny side of taking the comment out of context. Like if someone hadn't seen your video and knew it featured a rock band, the straight jacket, food and mask paints an amusing image, no?
    The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.

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    Even I enjoyed that, Dan! Got me in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HueyNRolf View Post
    the straight jacket, food and mask paints an amusing image, no?
    Exactly! It just reads funny.

    I guess Daniel is so close to the thing, he doesn't see it the same as us.
    He's like: "What? I did spend $200 on food, a straightjacket and a mask. How is THAT funny?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 View Post
    Exactly! It just reads funny.

    I guess Daniel is so close to the thing, he doesn't see it the same as us.
    He's like: "What? I did spend $200 on food, a straightjacket and a mask. How is THAT funny?"
    Yeh! LOL! You can see the look on his face!!

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    Then I guess the jokes on me. Nah, it's cool guys... I think I see what you're saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Rutter View Post
    Yes, there is some masking issues that I couldn't fix.
    Almost unnoticeable. I did, but it wasn't much apparent. (around 1:15 right?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Rutter View Post
    ... there are obvious masking lines that move around him. I couldn't fix these with any tricks I knew.
    This was shot with only one straitjacket, so I had one band member dress up, stand in the shot and do his thing... then swap it with the next member. To save money, I made it an fx shot.
    1) I would have try feathering the mask lines and maybe try to tweak the levels/contrast on both, so the line would have faded somewhere between there...Don't know for sure if it would have work though!
    2) That was such a good idea! Simple with a static shot as well! Worst case, you can try to "shake" it in post after, if you don't want a static shot.

    Quote Originally Posted by vadis View Post
    The intensity of the band members comes through very effectively. For me, perhaps a number of closeups (even extreme closeups) would have raised the energy level even more. Liked the work with locations and color, and the editing.
    I agree on all that. More on the closeups though. It would have shown even more of the members intensity. Some closeups would have been quite great.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel Rutter View Post
    Are you saying it looks like a 200 dollar video? Just wondering...
    No it doesn't. Not at all! Looks just right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Krute View Post
    Even I enjoyed that, Dan! Got me in.
    Ohh, then you know you did a good job Dan!
    I DO IT BECAUSE I CAN. I CAN BECAUSE I WANT TO. I WANT TO BECAUSE YOU SAID I COULDN'T.

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