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    Default WTB: Used DOF Adapter

    Hey guys! I am new to the boards and video in general. Recently purchased a HV30 and am looking for a decent used DOF adapter. I have lenses, and adapter rings to make them work.

    I'm in Illinois....


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    Just call them 35mm adapters DOF can be achieved to limited extent with a naked HV30 too.
    It would help if you mention the budget. Although the price of the adapters did drop by a serious amount, there still is a difference in price between adapters. The differences are justified based on what kind of adapter it is, one with rotating, vibrating or spinning groundglass, whether you'll get a second piece which flips the picture back the right way up (is that important to you?) and the overall quality of the adapter...
    If you're more specific I'm sure you'll get the adapter you're looking for much sooner.

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    I think I'm probably the better placed to talk about 35mm adapters!
    Simple question, do you know how much more work you're running into when using these adapters? You need:
    1) More light.
    2) To learn how to work with downside image on the camcorder or:
    3) Use an external monitor.
    4) Most preferably a rig (rods for sure) like a shoulder rig.
    5) A good tripod (as you're whole setup will be heavier) unless you'd choose a simple static adapter, like a Twoneil (one of the best ones).

    ...and that's a top5 of what's you would preferably need. I don't want to discourage you, but it requires more work. If you go that path knowing what you're doing, you'll make some very nice videos. I did one, 90% done using the adapter, and it's been one of the best I've done.
    On the other hand, I've been able to do a music video without the adapter and it ended up looking just as good with the same "look" using the bare HV with some work in post.

    That being said, Greg Tay sells some adapters on his webstore, there's a sticky about it. You could contact him. Otherwise check this section, there's some nice deal from time to time.
    On ebay, this one is quite cheap and comes with FD lenses, which sells for peanuts now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarteS View Post
    Just call them 35mm adapters DOF can be achieved to limited extent with a naked HV30 too.
    DOF is achieved in every shot you make, everytime you press a shutter release or a record button.

    DOF stands for "Depth Of Field" which is merely the label for "zone of acceptable sharpness". It does not mean "selective focus" or only "shallow zone of acceptable sharpness". Despite the fact that the acronym is "thrown around" rather mindlessly these days it has NOT come to mean "shallow zone of focus".

    Depth of field is always there, in every shot, every scene. Be it shallow,deep, or somewhere in between.

    Sorry if I seem a bit harsh about this but I get tired of seeing a textbook term misused and allowed to stand so those relatively new to image making think the misuse is all there is to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bif View Post
    Sorry if I seem a bit harsh about this but I get tired of seeing a textbook term misused and allowed to stand so those relatively new to image making think the misuse is all there is to it.Bruce Foreman
    Bruce is right, of course, but the term (DOF adapter), even if it is incorrect, has stuck... if you see it in Wikipedia... it must be right! We, after all, use (albeit for safety reasons) the "incorrect" flammable instead of the "correct" inflammable... to paraphrase a popular company slogan, "what do you want, good grammar or good shallow depth of field?"
    Last edited by vadis; 2012 May 11th at 01:19.

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    Sorry but it is correctly defined and described in photography textbooks, has been for almost as long as photography has been around. Wikipedia is not an authoratative source like dictionaries, true encyclopedias, and textbooks are.

    Depth of field is what it is. The zone of acceptable sharpness. The zone may be deep or it may be shallow. To describe it as "shallow depth of field" would be correct and clear, and would tend to indicate the person stating it that way just might know a little of what they are talking about.

    The Wikipedia is no excuse for spreading inaccuracy or misinformation.

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    Wow...some pointers to add information and we're ending up in whether somebody knows and informs about it all.
    But I must admit I totally missed the 'new to video'. My bad. In that case, Nik forget about the adapters for the moment. Try to understand your camera, find what kind of shots you'd like to take and what's important to you (low light, small formfactor, flexible, .. yes totally unrelated, but those are important. As drapeama did point out and what you should have investigated too. The man is in every thread on adapters after some year I'd say.)

    Quote Originally Posted by drapeama View Post
    I think I'm probably the better placed to talk about 35mm adapters!
    Simple question, do you know how much more work you're running into when using these adapters?
    Erm, was that as opposed to have me answer it? You know, you're not the only one who has a 35mm adapter. But still, valid points and aspects the topic starter had to look into (in the first place).

    Quote Originally Posted by Bif View Post
    Sorry if I seem a bit harsh about this but I get tired of seeing a textbook term misused and allowed to stand so those relatively new to image making think the misuse is all there is to it.
    I'm well aware (regarding this topic, still got a lot to learn on others). All I neglected to add was 'limited'. And yes, technically that's not all there is to it either.
    The thing is, we can constantly try to educate individuals in separate topics (and this one even in T&E), but to be honest if somebody is just finding a term and buying it instantly without some proper research this would be like handing a fish. Such a person is rather impulsive.
    There are a many, many, many websites and videos dedicated to DOF, to 35mm adapters, ... I consider those essential to read and watch as it will make you understand the matter better, not just know.
    Last edited by BarteS; 2012 May 11th at 04:17.

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