You'll never know... will youOriginally Posted by HueyNRolf
As for pissing contests.... you seem to be the one starting it.... or at least TRYING to start it
You'll never know... will you
As for pissing contests.... you seem to be the one starting it.... or at least TRYING to start it
Get the Samsung and forget the iphone!
Which one? There are several models. How many cylinders has a car?
Bob, you are aware that you linked to the smallest Pegasus cabinet. The bigger ones with more drives have the same controller built in. The Pegasus aren't that expensive compared to their competitors.
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
Oh I know alright.You'll never know... will you
As for pissing contests.... you seem to be the one starting it.... or at least TRYING to start it
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
Did you read the user reviews? The high price is one of the first things the users talk about.
It's a high price. Please don't make like it isn't.... Especially when you enter the fact that some pc mobos (like mine) come with a secondary sata controller BUILT IN, which would make it 8 sata drives ahead of the game already
AGAIN... how many sata heads does a mac come with to start?
Get the Samsung and forget the iphone!
What users? Your average Sony crowd? For its speed, the Pegasus is not expensive. It comes close to SAS drives via fibre channel. Then you can talk about expensive.
Depending the model, you get 1-4 ports. And? Am I supposed to feel inferior now?
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
Look here: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...688+4294949221 and tell me now where Pegasus expensive.
If kids buy adult toys then they shouldn't complain about the price.
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
Did you see Janke's documentary, the one that aired on Finnish TV?
Do you think it would've better if he'd used your PC with eight SATA drives?
I've seen movies shot and edited on an iPhone that piss all over anything you've ever done (nothing).
Give it up, Bob, I, and I dare say others, are quite unimpressed that your setup allows you to show three of your little iMovies simultaneously.
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
Shot with a HV30 + a T2i, edited in Final Cut Express on a 2008 Core2 MacBook and a 2011 i3 iMac with external FW drives - nothing fancy at all.
(All the fancy stuff was in front and behind the camera & computer screen...)
Oh, I had another image in my mind for "fancy"...!(All the fancy stuff was in front and behind the camera & computer screen...
Hear Hear!
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
I have a pretty basic setup:
C: 2TB 7200rpm hdd sata3, os and apps are here, and renders are made to here
D: 3TB 5900rpm hdd sata3, raw footage, projects, etc all kept here where Vegas Pro script renders everything to C:
F: 3TB 5900rpm hdd usb 3.0 dock, basically used to backup stuff and then the hdd is removed when full and brought to the bank, rinse and repeat
Network: Synology 2411+ 30TB gigabit raid 6 network storage, contains a copy of everything basically, same as the 3tb hdd's that are brought to the bank
The above runs on a 4.7ghz i72600k with an nvidia 560ti for video encoding assist all using Vegas Pro 11, it's been a rock solid setup for over a year now, extremely happy with it.
Where the heck do you see Sony users???
The link I gave you is directly from apple.com and the user reviews are right there. Am I missing something here.... or maybe you are?
Get the Samsung and forget the iphone!
I'm not speaking a high price in comparison to other thunderbolt/ RAID systems. I'm speaking high price compared to simply adding another controller board and more HDD's
Get the Samsung and forget the iphone!
Yes... quite good.
You'd have to ask Janke... not me.Do you think it would've better if he'd used your PC with eight SATA drives?
Yeah.... well my mommy is better than you're mommy!I've seen movies shot and edited on an iPhone that piss all over anything you've ever done (nothing).
Not meant for impressions. You should know by now your impressions (one way or the other) are of little interest to me. Just curious how macs stack up in the above fashion is all. Judging by your hostility, you're obviously quite embarrassed over the subject.Give it up, Bob, I, and I dare say others, are quite unimpressed that your setup allows you to show three of your little iMovies simultaneously.
Don't blame you for that embarrassment
Get the Samsung and forget the iphone!
Thanks! The nicest thing you've ever said...
The equipment doesn't make any difference. You do what you can with what you have.
I'm sort of reluctant to respond in this thread as apparently some are getting a kick out of putting people on the spot, knowing they can't show footage. Let me take that fun away and state I currently have to justify my equipment again. I used to be the guy which just used whatever was available and made it work. But to be honest, since I started shooting myself (I was solely an editor), I started drifting. Everything I did I finished in the last two years or so was work for clients. The personal stuff never got edited.
And as always there are excuses...I'm just doing too much right now with too little time. I'm trying to master it all and in the process things go wrong and break down. That's why I decided to invest in 'good' stuff, which is a departure from what I used to do. So yes, I totally have to justify the equipment I currently use (and possibly I should say...just have).
The reason I do reply anyway, is because it's different from everybody else and might surprise some and it also debunks some myths...
My editing machine is a dedicated box and it has three harddrives installed:
-C: OS with Programs (320GB drive)
-D: Cache (1TB drive)
-E: Previews (1TB drive)
The 1TB drives are way overkill, but it's because they are the last two drives of my old setup. One drive did fail some months ago and forced me to take a different route. This entire box is not protected by anything. No raid, no backup, .. I would simply replace the drive and start the project again. From what...those are some place else!
My data (media and projectfiles) is on a separate computer (NAS-2) and the computer I use to edit is connected via (at the moment single) gigabit. The data is currently stored on a six disc software 'raid6' array (it's actually slightly different, but I won't bore everbody with the how and why of that) of 2TB drives. This is a temporary setup. My other computer (NAS-1) has to be 'rehoused' to make better use of the available space in my room. That one has three drives in 'RAID5', again with 2TB drives. The interesting thing is..they are all 'green' drives, 5400 rpm drives. It's sufficient. If I get anywhere close to gigabit that's fine. And why to NAS computers...if everything is totally as it should be, NAS-1 would be the one turned on whilst editing. And before shutting down it would wake up NAS-2 to back it all up to NAS-1.
Regarding the second 'myth' (first being...don't ever use 'green' drives)...NAS-2 does not have enough onboard SATA ports (I have more than six drives attached). Therefore I'm using a rather cheap 'raid' controller, it did cost me about 100 dollars. I'm using one which is not able to do XOR calculation, has no batteries, ... nothing fancy at all. And I don't need it to, it just has to provide the additional ports. Could be anything actually, as long as I can attach the drives in 'legacy' mode. In other words, just installing the card in the machine and connecting the drives should be enough to make them appear to my operating system. I should not configure it in any way, not that I wouldn't understand, but it's because I don't want to be dependent on the controller and add a bottleneck. Again, the raid setup is a software raid setup and therefore in my operating system, the software just does the very same thing some of the smarter controllers do.
Last edited by BarteS; 2012 May 9th at 05:36.
Ah for crying out loud!
Why don't you give him a back rub too.
He turned a thread about "harddrives for maximum efficiency" into a Mac vs PC pissing contest, just to push his believer's agenda. He put himself on the spot.
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
I asked a simple question, nothing more. YOU'RE the one who seems to be treating it as a "pissing contest"
Get the Samsung and forget the iphone!
Really?
I'm disappointed, Bob. I thought you knew me better than that.
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
Yes.... really.
Because I asked, it would stand to reason that I didn't know. I've never owned a mac and never seen the inside of one.
Get the Samsung and forget the iphone!
Bob, you could imagine that there isn't much space for 8 drives in a Mini or an iMac. Only the Pro has space for 4 drives, but this machine is overkill for most likely everyone on this forum. And the i7 iMac is about as fast as the 8-core Pro with FCP X (speed's not everything though).
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
Who needs internal space? You can pile up your drives BESIDE the machine if there isn't enough room inside. But if the sata heads aren't there.....
What does a mac have for expansion slots?
Get the Samsung and forget the iphone!
Who do you think you're fooling, Bob?
Here's your disingenuous bullshit:
You can lie to yourself, that you weren't starting a pissing contest, and you alone will be the fool.
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
They have thunderbolt, which is faster than SATA.
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
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