Canon 5D Mark 3 releases End of March

[Lunchbox]

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columni...III/53323596/1

[HD-tography]

1080/30p, 24p, 25p; 720/60p, 50p; 480/60p, 50p.

"4GB automatic file partition is employed in order to gain longer continuous recording times, up to 29 minutes 59 seconds." (On What Setting?)

All i-frame and IPB compressions, H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec.

Time code!!!

Headphone Jack!

Manually adjust your exposure settings and audio levels while recording.

"The DIGIC 5+ processor also dramatically improves video response times and HELPS? to reduce color artifacts, aberrations, and MOIRE?"

Available TODAY for Pre order. Released in limited qty

Canon EOS 5D Mark III Digital Camera (Body Only) Price: $3,499.00 USD

[Dr. Benway]

That's bastard pricing. With the MKIII being a whopping $1200 more than a MKII, it would seem there's little or no reason for the MKII to drop in price.

[GeorgeMaier]

I think the pricing on the 5DMkIII is reasonable for what it is, was the MkII not far off this when it first came out? Shame to not see 60p at 1080 but you win some you lose some.

I'm looking forward to seeing some high quality video test footage to see what the higher bit rates have to offer

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Yeah, I think I paid over 3k USD when it came out for the MkII.

[HD-tography]

I'm looking forward to seeing some high quality video test footage to see what the higher bit rates have to offer

I think you'll have to get one in your hands for that... you won't see it online (due to hosting site compression)

[Ian-T]

http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Prod...S_5D_Mark_III/

[Ian-T]

There are some examples in here that shows how improved the moire is on brick walls.

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos5dmk3/

[Gillvane]

http://www.cinema5d.com/news/?p=9980

What's been the biggest complaint about shooting with the 5d Mark II? Why have people been claiming for so long it's not a "real" video camera? Aliasing and moire.

Supposedly this is a thing of the past with the Mark III. that's HUGE! People have not been saying, this looks great, BUT OMG! that codec! They have been saying this looks great, but OMG! that moire!

So yes, I'd like to see a clean HDMI out, but I think this keeps the 5d relevant and keeps it from being old tech. I'll wait and see after there's some footage to review of brick buildings, patterned clothes, and stuff that often has moire. Also need to see a jello test with this new digic 5.

I think the price is decent. It's still in the DSLR range, not in the 5K higher end video camera range. Once you get close to 5k might as well think about an FS100 or something like that.

I"m not impressed with the "Rad Ball" footage released by Canon. It's soulless. There's no interesting lighting, it's kind of flat, and no interesting grading either. Also, the compression looks kind of crappy. That's kind of par for the course though, the camera manufacturers seem to have a talent for making lackluster promo videos.

I'll wait before making a final judgement to see something from the usual suspects, Laforet, Bloom, etc. They make boring ass films but they're good at making a camera really shine.

[Daniel Rutter]

www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.canon.jp%2Fimaging%2Feosd %2Fsamples%2Feos5dmk3%2Fplayer_COLOR_OF_HOPE%2Fmov ie.html%3Fhigh&h=8AQEwtnBlAQFyD4E0O_FJtGp5nhAeOFvA _J9Ym2pNTriEXw

Something I came across on a page on Facebook.

[HD-tography]

Something I came across on a page on Facebook.

Facebook warning says not to proceed with that potentially dangerous link above

[Dr. Benway]

Supposedly this is a thing of the past with the Mark III. that's HUGE!

I feel the release is anticlimactic - what was I expecting? One, would be price, though it will come down. I'd be a lot more excited if it were cheaper driving the MKII prices down.

It'll be great to see what people do with it over the next few months. Meanwhile I'll save my money and think about buying one in a year's time.

This is certainly not a quantum leap - as they say, it's almost just a rehashed full frame 7D.

Solid AF and dual card slots are nice though, as is the extended recording time.

[Daniel Rutter]

Facebook warning says not to proceed with that potentially dangerous link above

Facebook being typical... here's the proper link: http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/sam...ovie.html?high

[Bif]

I think the pricing on the 5DMkIII is reasonable for what it is, was the MkII not far off this when it first came out?

Quite far off.

I remember the 5D MkII at $2499 body only when introduced.

Bruce Foreman

[Dr. Benway]

Quite far off.

Exactly. The 5D was listed above the $3000 mark. The MKII was less (US$2699), and now this has shot it back up again.

It's making the MKII look very attractive.

I'm going to look very closely at improvements in IQ. The samples I have seen have looked poor.

Early days though, very early.

[DigitalBard]

Given the price of the C300, I think this was kind of expected. They certainly don't want any C300 owners feeling regret.

Also, I thought I read in of the the many many many blogs that the Digic 5+ makes a firmware upgrade to 1080/60p a possibility as the processor can handle it, especially since it doesn't do line skipping any longer. I can only imagine what the Magic Lantern folks can do once they get ahold of it.

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It's making the MKII look very attractive.

Hmm, maybe it gives us MKII owners a neat way to upgrade to a MKIII.
What's a used MKII worth these days?

I might consider selling.

[Ian-T]

Looks like they employ a great deal of NR in higher ISOs. You can see a loss in resolution (or smearing).

Also...resolution wise, from these samples, it seems not much different from the 5Dll. It's just moire free (the colored version at least).

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/re...ht-iso-samples

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On a somewhat unrelated note:

I am AMAZED that in 2012 they can still keep such a product secret up until almost the week/month it is available for sale!!!

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from these samples

Thanks for the link.

I never quite understood the super high ISO shooting modes. I mean anything over 6400ISO in those examples is pretty much useless (and achievable from a lower ISO RAW shot in post; probably even with better results).
Is it just a numbers game: "Buy our camera, it can do 128000000000 ISO.....no the pics are crap then, but it can do 50000000 higher ISO than our competitor!!!!!"



Added:
I guess this SHOULD be taken into consideration (but still!!!):

"This should therefore be considered close to the worst-case scenario - under many situations you'll see less noise at high ISOs, for example when shooting indoors in daylight. Also remember that this is a pre-production camera, so may not be entirely representative of final image quality."

[Ian-T]

Thanks for the link.

I never quite understood the super high ISO shooting modes. I mean anything over 6400ISO in those examples is pretty much useless (and achievable from a lower ISO RAW shot in post; probably even with better results).
Is it just a numbers game: "Buy our camera, it can do 128000000000 ISO.....no the pics are crap then, but it can do 50000000 higher ISO than our competitor!!!!!"

Yes U R correct. They are useless. It fascinates me how people freak out over these useless features. For filmaking if you are looking for quality images I would stay away from them. It's common knowledge that the higher one goes in ISO (especially at those ranges) the less latitude you have. Also...sharpness diminishes. In the case of this cam it seems like there is a lot of in-cam noise reduction which...also diminishes the image. Horses for courses I guess.

[Dr. Benway]

I mean anything over 6400ISO in those examples is pretty much useless

Aye - at photo school I pushed some Tri-X 400 to 96,000iso. It sat in the dev for seven hours.

[GeorgeMaier]

On my 60D I never stray any higher than 1600 ISO because that's the point I start to notice the image degrades.

[Dr. Benway]

What's a used MKII worth these days?

Quite a lot it seems. The 5D MKIII looks to be a great camera - almost perfect? I'll wait for a subtsantial price - I have to save up anyway. Looking at high iso samples the MKIII tops out at 6400iso for me. Beyong that and the gain is horrible.

I am AMAZED that in 2012 they can still keep such a product secret up until almost the week/month it is available for sale!!!

True. The must have a very good relationship with those outside who test their new models.

[Dr. Benway]

Looks like the body-only 5D MKII is heading in the right direction - a $200 to $300 price drop:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...D_Mark_II.html