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    Default Need to upgrade from the HV20 to something equivalent in solid state

    What is the upgrade from the HV20 - I want to get away from tape and into the solid state camera scene. I heard tape is better quality, but I am curious to see what else is out there from Canon...

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    I was looking at the XA10 from Canon the other day. Not cheap at US$1850 though!

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    yeah, that is a bit rich for my blood right now. Nothing in the VIXIA series?

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    Well, you might be in luck (with Canon) as they are about to roll out some new cams.

    http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/p...mer_camcorders

    Some of their "old" models qualify for instant rebates!
    http://usa.canon.com/CUSA/assets/app...poster_web.pdf

    Check B&H for best price.

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    Which one is comparable to the HV20 though?

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    Sorry, they all look pretty much the same to me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 View Post
    they all look pretty much the same to me!
    Ain't that the truth! There wouldn't much between them all.

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    In the sub-pixel area, the new cams beat the HV by length....
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    Quote Originally Posted by netrate View Post
    I heard tape is better quality, but I am curious to see what else is out there from Canon...
    The Hi Def HF series, specifically the HF M41 will be most comparable to the HV series. And NO! Tape is NOT better quality. A slight "edge" will go to the AVCHD flash memory type but the difference to the eye can be hard to see.

    When I sold off my HV20 and replaced it with an HF100 I did a couple of projects where I used footage "left over" from the HV20 and footage from the then new HF100 on the same timeline so I actually had a scene to scene comparison. Edge detail on the AVCHD footage was slightly sharper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bif View Post
    Edge detail on the AVCHD footage was slightly sharper.
    I would be sure the newer lens, slightly updated would actually factor into this. I know my GH1 is sharper than my HV30, but sometimes it's overly sharp and not ideal.

    Just a personal preference though.

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    I can definitely recommend the HF M41. It's slightly sharper than my HV20 but the dynamic range of the HD CMOS Pro-sensor is much larger and the PQ in low light is stunning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou van Wijhe View Post
    HF M41
    Good to know.

    B&H actually already lists that model as discontinued though. I guess the replacement is the M50 (8GB) or M52 (32GB).


    Longevity in electronics' models seems to be dwindling down to a few months!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 View Post
    B&H actually already lists that model as discontinued though. I guess the replacement is the M50 (8GB) or M52 (32GB).
    That's right, these models are already available in Holland. I'm glad I could get one of the last M41's. The replacement models are missing the viewfinder and I'm not interested in built-in WiFi.

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