Maybe it's time to try again, and maybe it'll work this time. Remember that the tablet is an old idea; there was the Apple Newton and before that a microsoft concept, all failed. Ahead of their time perhaps?. It's only now that the tablet has been done right and succeeded. It'll be interesting to see what other changes will come about and time will tell.Originally Posted by Bob Sanders
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i think microsoft really has a chance to bridge the gap.
However, windows 8 tablets aren't going to be little tablets like android or apple tablets, they'll still be full fledged tablets and computers. i do think people will be willing to have a little more weight and thickness if they actually can use an OS that has every benefit of a tablet OS with the use of a PC OS.
the interface of 8 last time i loaded it was similar to the windows mobile interface, with the big blocky user menu, with the ability to swipe it off and go to a regular desktop. like i said, i was a little confused with the setup, but the more i think about it, the more it makes sense.
i don't think it's going to impact the android or IOS market, but it's going to make a good splash in the market.
my only worry is windows users don't like change, and from the preview when i installed it, windows 8 is a tad bit of change, with some of the same. last time, it didn't go so well. (vista) side note, i really liked vista, but it's not what people expected or wanted. they wanted more like XP and less different, and vista and 7 weren't that. the same could be said when OSX came out, the old mac curmudgeons were all against the new OS...
i think change is good, when it's for the better.
What about apps? It seems to me that microsoft will need to find one hell of a lot of tablet apps very quickly, if the tablet is going to be attractive to the consumer. They'd need to convince a business partner of this to get the hardware made.
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I have never known updated windows based applications to be in short supply. Have a look just for example when Microsoft upgrades their windows package. All the various software manufactures literally scramble to get their software upgraded to match. I don't think I've ever seen it the other way around.... have you?
I'm pretty sure software for the windows based tablets will be much the same. Those who can possibly fit their windows based programs into a tablet will surely be lining up for the opportunity.
From what I understand, apps for a windows 8 tablet will need to be compatible with the ARM processor. This means that apps will need to be developed specific to the tablet. So unlike porting apps over to a new OS, which is a captive market, will developers be prepared to invest in something which is new and, therefore, has no market yet? For the product to be attractive to the consumer it'll need to compete with the HUGE selection of apps that run on iOS and Android. If the selection of apps for the windows 8 tablet is limited, its market will remain small.
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Microsoft is simply a software company yet how many different manufacturers line up to install windows on their machines? How many people had Blu Ray players when Blu Ray was first introduced... yet you had plenty of movie studios pumping out commercial Blu Ray movies?
It has nothing to with love for microsoft or sony either. This is business and the various software developers have an opportunity to make some money.... just like microsoft does. If I... 'BOB's Software' can sell you 2 versions of Bob's bean counter program (one for the PC and one for the tablet) then I stand to make twice the money from a single person. This is good for Microsoft.... but it's also good for 'Bob's Software'.
There's not many movies available on HD-DVD, right?
My point is that consumers will be turned off a new tablet if it's lacking in apps. If consumers aren't buying the tablets, then developers will be reluctant to invest.
Catch 22.
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Bob will only make twice the money if the PC-version sales is equal to the tablet version sales. How would this be the case if consumers aren't using the tablet? Bob could even get his fingers burnt if he fails to recover his development investment in the tablet version.
If game developers could make twice as much by producing an OS X version, then surely they would. Aren't they business people too?
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from what i understood, microsoft is only going to offer support for 4 desktop apps on the arm tablets. on intel or and tablets,they'll have full support.
right now, it looks like people using the vs11 package will be able to write WOA apps that can be used on arm and desktop, but the only apps that will work WOA will be the metro style apps.
i imagine that microsoft will get some good support, with the developer tools already being in place, and since the apps would run in 8 on the desktop anyway, they almost come off like fancy widgets.
it's not like android has more then 10-12 good apps that are actually useful.
Wouldn't the tablet need an ARM processor to compete on battery life?
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The arm processor does have a power efficiency advantage over intel that's for sure, but it's also much slower than intel. Intel is light years ahead in terms of speed. My guess is that people would prefer speed over battery life.... I certainly would anyway. Moot issue though since windows 8 will apparently be able to run on either one
http://www.pcworld.com/article/23995..._scrutiny.html
not really sure. in real world use, the android tablets like the acer iconia don't exactly excel at battery life.
i couldn't find battery specs for the fujitsu Q550 which i think will be an early blueprint for future windows tablets.
i think a brilliant compromise is the lenovo x220 tablet, which will probably be one of the more interesting uses for windows 7, as a hybrid.
the iPad flat outruns the other tablets at battery life, but a tablet with a removable battery and an intel atom would be a great direction.
even if it only managed 3-6 hours on battery, it'd be a boon to business users wanting to integrate a tablet into their business.
The windows 8 tablet will need to compete in a very tough market. Sure you could use an Intel chip and fit it with a large laptop battery, but will consumers choose it over something sleek and light with a 10 hour battery life, tons of apps written for a tablet and tons of media content like music, videos, ebooks etc.
I really don't think microsoft stands a chance with this one. Just my opinion, of course and it looks like it'll be a long time before anyone knows what the outcome will be.
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As stated, Windows 8 will run on the arm processor as well... so unlike the ipad, and depending on how hardware manufactures plan to go, consumers will most likely have a choice on speed (intel) and efficiency (arm). We may well even get into position where a single hardware manufacturer will have BOTH versions on the market. Personally speaking... the arm processor is great for cell phones and other little doo-hickies, but it has no business in the PC world. It's no match for the speed of intel.
Batteries? They're not heavy anymore. The world of lithium ion has taken care of that. Twice the power with 1/2 the size and weight of the older nii-cad systems.
The apps? Those will flow pretty heavily almost overnight... not too much to worry about there. Microsoft already has the upper edge with microsoft office which is a large part of any computer system... and you can be sure it will be rigged to run on a tablet as well.
Frankly, I don't see Apple folding up and going home... but then on the other hand IMO, Apple will have a tough time competing with such a versatile and universal system. And with the ability to run on intel (speed and power) Microsoft is FAR closer to achieving a.... "post pc" era than Apple is.
Who's comparing with NiCd anymore? NiMH started to replace them over two decades ago, and Li-ion have been with us for over 10 years, already...
I can't see anything here that suggests that it could be even close to being as good as the competition let alone better. The biggest hurdle for MS is entering the race so late. From what I've read, the windows 8 PC OS might be out later this year and the tablet OS maybe next year? By which time it'll be even further behind. The huge catalog of apps, media content, hardware and media content just keeps evolving in the tablet market. Meanwhile MS will need to partner up with hardware makers, establish content providers and get a competitive selection of apps together.
Of course, one should reserve judgement until the product is out there, but color me skeptical.
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On a related note, here's a bit of nostalgia for you from March 2010:
http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?3...l=1#post305078
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
The competition can't run on 2 different processors can it... IMO that makes it pretty weak.
Since when has microsoft had trouble finding hardware support and content providers???
You keep saying 'tons of apps'.... In my book I count 8 or 10 good apps which the majority of people use. The rest is obscure stuff which most don't use. Office is one of the systems which is widely used and it contains 4 of the most basic and common apps. What other Apps are you talking about?
Last edited by Bob Sanders; 2012 March 15th at 17:58.
Who knows? We shall see.
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False accusations and fabrications about Apple factories in China:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17405011
I don't generally use Apple products because they are to constrictive. Apple computers? You can't get what you want, it has to be approved by Apple, they only approve certain graphics cards not others, you have to use the Apple store, get it repaired by Apple, etc., etc.
Or an Ipod will be constantly sending you to the Itunes store, an apple phone will want to sell you apps that are ONLY approved by Apple and if they don't like an App you can't buy it.
That sort of strategy doesn't work for me. I find it frustrating and not what I want in customer service.
Everyone makes stuff in China. Chinese workers don[t' have the best conditions. I don't think it's a big issue compared to any other electronics manufacturer.
"beautiful girls are the cheapest special effect"
- Roger Corman
You write the funniest things.
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
con·strict (kn-strkt)You write the funniest things.
v. con·strict·ed, con·strict·ing, con·stricts
v.tr.
1. To make smaller or narrower by binding or squeezing.
2. To squeeze or compress.
3. To restrict the scope or freedom of; cramp: lives constricted by poverty.
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I meant number three. What's funny about it?
"beautiful girls are the cheapest special effect"
- Roger Corman
Better re-read what you wrote before someone unpacks the grammar Nazi again
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
And that coming from a non-native speaker of English should make it all the more shameful. I guess teenagers have no respect for their own language. It's sad but that seems to be the case.Better re-read what you wrote before someone unpacks the grammar Nazi again
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