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    Default avchd recording time limits (2gb?, 4gb?) does this apply to all avchd cams? fix?

    Just in case it matters i edit in vegas/pc

    Just clarify is this 2gb (or is it 4gb) across the board sony ax2000, panny hmc150, etc.

    I've heard something about sdhc and fat 32

    my concern is the dropped frames...heard rumors of easy fixes where you can take the split files and merge them and regain the dropped frames?

    please help explain, thanks everyone.
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    It is general for FAT32. However, clips get merged automatically.

    The only cams that don't support the merging (in camera) are DSLR due to import duties to Europe (still cams cost less duties than video cams).
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    thats seriously the reason for dslr?.....lol.....sounds petty...lol......anyways do does that mean the dslr's don't keep recording after the limit?

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    Just hit the record button.
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    for me i am just thinking of one scenerio. At a live event walking around with a dslr and having a hmc150 type avchd cam static on a tripod.........if i am not there to hit record again am i to assume that it keeps recording but just splits the files? and that the dslr stops recording?

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    Yep.

    you really sure about that hmc150? That cam was over-hyped.
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    no im not sure....lol........i guess im considering the ax2000......id say the hpx170 but i cant afford the p2 media. the only other non p2 media cams in my range would be maybe the xf100, which looks good but its so dinky.........any suggestions?

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    just to elaborate.......the point is to have something like a 7d to solve the dof dilema's and an camcorder as a second camera obviously for two camera shoots and to back up for saftey, aliasing issues and constant long format recording camera wise after taxes, media and camera my budget for the camcorder is about 4000 and i need at least 90 minute recordable media at 1080p

    minimum requirements:

    tapeless
    24p
    60i
    hd
    manual control
    decent low light (like 3lux or better)

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    You mean dinky like small? I have a Sony A1, and despite for my love of real cameras (like the Canon XL), I am very happy with its size. The A1 seems to be a tiny bit smaller than the XF100. I'm looking for the money to replace the A1 with the XF.
    Don't overlook the JVC HM100. About the same size, 3 CCD (IMHO better than CMOS), and uses cheap SD cards. If you use FCP, you can import directly into the timeline. No transcoding. The only thing that's missing is the XF's 4:2:2 codec.

    Screw them 3 lux. That is not a real comparison, as every camera producer has its own way to come to lux number...
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    Oh, and both, the HM and the XF, shoot in long GOP MPEG2 (about the same as the venerable HV). Therefore, you don't need as much Horse Power on your computer, compared to native AVCHD.
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    If the camera is static on a tripod and no one is there to operate it, then it doesn't matter whether it is dinky or has the manual control of a larger camera. Consider a chain and padlock so the dinky camera doesn't disappear while you are roaming around with the DSLR. For the same price you could get an HF G10 plus the Zoom R16 and accessories.

    Note that having the highest resolution possible on the static cam allows you to zoom and crop in post. I think source from the XF100 or HF G10 could be magnified by 1.7x and still have resolution comparable to typical DSLR footage.
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