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    Default Effects Rebel



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZELz9i47LVQ

    I was promoting my book and this guy got pissed and told me to bug off and die, so I made this video for him.

    Shot with the Canon HF S200
    The book can be found at http://www.RebelWithoutADeal.com
    Special thanks to the genius of Andrew at http://VideoCoPilot.net

    Love to hear your thoughts.
    Rebel without a Deal is an indie filmmaking book which has been compared to Rebel Without A Crew.

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    Haha, using every effect in the book! was good and funny

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    Pretty cool. I don't know anything about visual effects as I am only starting out but everything looked pro except getting hit by the car. Hopefully I will be able to do effects as good-looking as yours. You took your movie to the theaters so I'm definitely getting your book but I have 2 books that I need to read through first. I'm also very interested in the how does one profit from making a movie. I get the impression that filmmakers are usually in a tight economical position and having no money of their own to invest in their films eats a lot into their profits down the road. Is this accurate?

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    If you don't mind me asking: If I had $10-$20K of my own money to spend on a film and complete it entirely out of my pocket, how would that change my prospects from profiting from the movie? Is $10-$20K enough to make something respectable or is that laughable? Also I imagine most low budget films don't make up their cost. Or do they? Is there a $$$ threshold where movies are likely to earn back their cost? For example I would not expect the so called "no budget" movies to CONSISTENTLY make profits. But I get the impression most of the multimillion dollar Hollywood crap in theaters get good profits CONSISTENTLY (otherwise they would stop making them).

    I know I'm equating $$$ to quality which will not always be the case but it often is. So supposing film's budget is a measure of a its quality, is there a threshold of $$$ where the film has a good chance of being profitable?

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    Video copilot for the win

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Cuajinais View Post
    everything looked pro except getting hit by the car.
    I assume you mean the way I fly up?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Cuajinais View Post
    Hopefully I will be able to do effects as good-looking as yours.
    Grab a copy of After Effects and visit videocopilot.net

    Quote Originally Posted by El Cuajinais View Post
    I'm also very interested in the how does one profit from making a movie.
    So am I ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by El Cuajinais View Post
    I get the impression that filmmakers are usually in a tight economical position and having no money of their own to invest in their films eats a lot into their profits down the road. Is this accurate?
    Even when using your own money to make a $10k film, its hard to profit. The economy has changed and the outlets for movies are not what they used to be. Today, more than ever, movies are more about marketing than substance. With $10k you can't market a movie to success, and with someone else's financing, its hard to profit.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Cuajinais View Post
    Is $10-$20K enough to make something respectable or is that laughable?
    The $10k movie is the main profile of my book. You should get it to see how a $10k movie works.

    But yes, you can make a good movie for $10k. You can get a successful festival run and you can get distribution. But the stars truly must align to achieve this. The script must be remarkable or have remarkable elements. Look at Pulp Fiction, the adreline to the chest is remarkable, the gimp, the dialog. Think about what people say about other movies. Attack of the clones was terrible but the speedster race rocked. Try to have atleast one amazing "remarkable" scene. Include as many marketable elements in the movie as you can. Guns, profanity, nudity, hot women, hot cars, explosions, name actors, indie band music, art from popular artists. When the movie is finished and great, in post add more marketable elements, like poster art from noted artists, a professional trailer with the real trailer voice, pull quotes from famous people.

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    Is there a $$$ threshold where movies are likely to earn back their cost?
    $300k to $500k is high enough to get name talent, but low enough to profit.

    Quote Originally Posted by El Cuajinais View Post
    But I get the impression most of the multimillion dollar Hollywood crap in theaters get good profits CONSISTENTLY
    Yep, they market their movies to box office success.
    Rebel without a Deal is an indie filmmaking book which has been compared to Rebel Without A Crew.

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    Hilarious.
    "beautiful girls are the cheapest special effect"
    - Roger Corman

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    Hmmm well it depends what you are looking to do. I mean From a vfx point of view, it was pretty bad. Any one in the vfx industry will immediately recognize all the video copilot work. I mean it is basically all VCP.

    If you are looking to get clients for web work it might be fine, but any one who knows about vfx is going to look at you less favorably because of all the VCP stuff.

    Good for dealing with low-end effects and people who do not know vfx well. Bad for serious pursuit in the vfx industry.

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