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    Default Online file storage which allows > 2GB file size?

    Any suggestions? Looking for a backup/online file storage service which allows both unlimited storage and no limit to file size. Would like to back up finished renders, raw footage, photos, etc. most of which are 5-10GB (from HDV). Looking at backing up 2 NAS, various externals, something like 6 TB! for under say usd 300 a year (on a budget, just for home movies). File sharing would be a plus, as would uploading folders. Looked at the usual suspects (Mozy, elephant drive, etc. etc.), haven't found any apart from Hualey? (forget the name, based on peer to peer 'cloud storage').

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    Have you considered dropbox? Their space range is limited to 100GB, but i'm sure you can ask them a quote for a bigger size.

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    Thanks for the reply. I have a free account currently, but they were a bit expensive, and also have the restricted file size upload....as do most. Still looking....! The really big issue is the > 2GB limit, although Amazon's service doesn't have this limit (S3), then again you're looking at upward of 5 hundred a month....not quite in my price range for family home vids!

    Edit: I'm looking to back up around 5-7 terabytes.......!!!
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    5-7TB??? Holy crap.

    The only one that comes to mind off the top of my head is www.backblaze.com
    I think it's $5 USD a month, or $50 USD a year. Unlimited storage, max file size up to 9GB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agp26 View Post
    Edit: I'm looking to back up around 5-7 terabytes.......!!!
    Three 2 TB external drives cost less than $ 300 nowadays.

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    Thanks Zagnut, I'll definately check it out. All the TB are due to storing digitized versions of tapes as well as vids (of around 250 hdv tapes) as well as music, several TB of pics, etc, backups of backups of backups...can't be too careful! The tapes (despite crappy hdv compression...really over that now...are also backups...but a pain to re-digitize). Janke, I'm aware of how cheap external storage is, looking to build a mega-NAS/server of 10-12 TB to backup my two (dual hdd) NAS's, 3 external hdd's...but they'll still be in the same location, and as you know, hard-drives die.....life expectancy around 5 years between failures. Buying a commercial NAS on that scale is not an option (need to save up for a DSLR/AG-AF100 etc). Love the headgear!
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    Quote Originally Posted by agp26 View Post
    can't be too careful!
    Couldn't agree more. I keep my backups on an external HDD that's locked in a fireproof and waterproof safe. Speaking of which, you just reminded me that it's time for another backup to be done.

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    For all you safety nuts (me included), do check out these prices for an unlimited backup!

    http://www.crashplan.com

    I do manual backup with redundant disks in different houses, but I'm seriously considering this. The 4 year plan costs as little as almost 1€/month.

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    It makes no financial sense to upload to the cloud such a big size of files, not in 2011 at least. See, it's a well known joke among engineers in the Bay Area about how it makes more financial/time sense to send large content using hard drives with FEDEX from one facility to another than to upload online. I think you're in this category right now. It makes more sense to just make multiple backups and then store the drives in different safe places (e.g. a safe in a nearby town, in case your town or your home gets in a natural disaster), than to upload and pay huge prices for that content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenia Loli-Queru View Post
    pay huge prices
    1 € per month isn't that huge a price - less than 50 € (70 US$) for four years...

    But I agree - myself, I have all my important data on at least three external hard disks, one of them in a bank vault.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenia Loli-Queru View Post
    pay huge prices
    1 € per month isn't that huge a price - less than 50 € (70 US$) for four years...

    But I agree - myself, I have all my important data on at least three external hard disks, one of them in a bank vault.


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    >1 € per month isn't that huge a price

    Who has 6 TB online storage for 1 Euro per month? Did I miss something? Plus, don't forget the uploading cost. Most ISPs would cut you off if you try to upload all that. Comcast will for sure for example.

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    Of course this doesn't serve everyone, but I'm very close to subscribe and pay the 140$ for 4 years.

    My ISP is okay with large transfers, the worst they do is send a letter or, in extreme cases, throttle my bandwith.
    For all you USA residents, they offer a portable 1TB drive for sending/receiving the backup.

    This works to me because of exactly the type of work and backup we need. After I'm done with a project, which can vary from 20GB to 300GB (like the last gig I did), I just want it safe in case I may need it again in the future. As long as my network can handle it, this is a very cost effective solution. When 10 TB drives are dirt cheap, I'll buy 2 and cancel my subscription.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenia Loli-Queru View Post
    Most ISPs would cut you off if you try to upload all that. Comcast will for sure for example.
    I have unlimited upload. However, my ISP didn't think beyond 640x480 still uploads for gramma. On the other hand, the speed my ISP delivers ain't anything to write home about either.
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    How about this?

    http://www.box.net/pricing
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    At least 4 times more expensive than crashplan and limited to 500GB. I dare not even imagine the enterprise unlimited plan.

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    Think about upload times...

    Buy a 1 or 2 TB external disk for $50-$150, and deposit it at a friend's or relative's house, and you're pretty safely back-upped....


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    A 1 TB will be full after 3 big projects. And you need to buy 2, to have minimum redundancy.
    With the same money or less, I get 4 years of online backup.

    I'm probably gonna do more 9 hours, 2 ou 3 cams conference covers, hence lots of 300 GB projects. After they're done, I just need them to be retrievable, not quickly accessible.
    So upload times? Who cares if it takes 2 months to upload, as soon as it finishes I can safely free disk space for the next project in line.

    Don't get me wrong, I've thinking allot about this, in a week maybe I'll decide. The original poster should also find this plan interesting.

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    I've subscribed to Crashplan and so far everything is going swell, first 150GB out of the current 500Gb are uploaded.

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    550 GB are uploaded. i've since decided to keep 1 local backup, and that whole drive is backed up on-line. So, my redundancy drive is actually Crashplan, not a second hard-drive. Since crashplan is unlimited, once I fill my first 1 TB hard-drive, I can just buy another or replace the old one.

    I believe this is way offers the best of both worlds:
    • As cheap as 2 hardrives, less in the long run
    • Crashplan have their own redundancy scheme, so I'm actually protected by a 3 way redundancy
    • Syncing is done automatically, not even one click
    • Local backup provides quick access, remote backup provides anywhere accessibility of any file. It has already proven usefull to me in 2 ocasions.

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    Crashplan does allow you to seed the data. This means you send the initial backup using a harddrive to them and from there one upload the additional files and updates via the internet.
    Crashplan is, in my opinion, very cheap. And I might eventually use it to make an offsite backup. But first I want to make sure I can encrypt the data myself first. (I do not trust the encryption of either online storage, even though they might claim they cannot access the files themselves. Do they tell you the truth?) The alternative is to setup my own offsite backup, via a friend or a relative, but I can imagine that would take some time and the uptime is not guaranteed.

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    I don't live in the US, so no seed for me.

    You can define your own encription key (448 bit) and Crashplan state very clearly that if you do that and lose the key, they can't access it so you're f*cked.
    Even if you don't trust that, you can allways encrypt your source files.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenia Loli-Queru View Post
    It makes no financial sense to upload to the cloud such a big size of files, not in 2011 at least. See, it's a well known joke among engineers in the Bay Area about how it makes more financial/time sense to send large content using hard drives with FEDEX from one facility to another than to upload online. I think you're in this category right now. It makes more sense to just make multiple backups and then store the drives in different safe places (e.g. a safe in a nearby town, in case your town or your home gets in a natural disaster), than to upload and pay huge prices for that content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janke View Post
    Think about upload times...

    Buy a 1 or 2 TB external disk for $50-$150, and deposit it at a friend's or relative's house, and you're pretty safely back-upped....
    Exactly right. For efficiency, cost, and practicality. Cloud based storage is nowhere near advanced enough to handle that kind of volume. If you insist on going that route, you will be severely disappointed.
    Quote Originally Posted by BarteS View Post
    Crashplan does allow you to seed the data. This means you send the initial backup using a harddrive to them and from there one upload the additional files and updates via the internet.
    Crashplan is, in my opinion, very cheap. And I might eventually use it to make an offsite backup. But first I want to make sure I can encrypt the data myself first. (I do not trust the encryption of either online storage, even though they might claim they cannot access the files themselves. Do they tell you the truth?) The alternative is to setup my own offsite backup, via a friend or a relative, but I can imagine that would take some time and the uptime is not guaranteed.
    That's the $24,000 question. At this stage of the game, you will be the guinea pig
    Last edited by Krane; 2011 August 6th at 23:54.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janke View Post
    Think about upload times...

    Buy a 1 or 2 TB external disk for $50-$150, and deposit it at a friend's or relative's house, and you're pretty safely back-upped....
    Exactly, who needs the hassle? HDD's can be hassle enough without the +&**(!! Internet, dropped connections, et al. And who wants their data out there anyway? Even if it is just backyard cat and adapter tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Benway View Post
    Even if it is just backyard cat and adapter tests.
    LOL! That made my day...


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