New Canon XA10 full HD camera expected on March 2011

[scotthampton]

Is this the replacement that we've been looking for?
Product Highlights
- 1/3" CMOS Sensor
- Native 1920 x 1080
- 24Mbps AVCHD Recording
- 60i, PF30, PF24, Native 24p
- 64GB Internal Flash Drive
- 10x HD Zoom Lens
- Dual SD Memory Card Slots
- 3.5" Touch Panel LCD Screen
- Dual XLR Inputs w/Detachable Handle
- Waveform Monitor, Peaking, Zebra 70/100%

The dual XLR inputs sounds appealing, the small size is cool, native 24p. I still don't like AVCHD, but it sounds pretty good. And guess what: it comes with a manual focus wheel!

[valdi99]

http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/gear/Ne...cle-1409.shtml

Manual settings, especially gain sound great!

[Daniel Rutter]

... and this is the camera we've all been waiting for.
At two grand though?

[cgbier]

Price is ok, but AVCHD?

[AJUK]

Looks pretty good, seems like a XH-A1 style with card storage. I'd prefer to have removable lenses on my next video camera though.

[chico_stang]

It is too late. I believe many were asking for something close to this when the HV series were at their highest popularity. For the price, I think the Panasonic HMC40 seems to be a better buy. We would have to wait for footage though. Still, its got some nice features. It would look "cooler" with a proper lens hood and not the one it currently has, though that's just nitpicking on my part. I also see a focus/zoom ring. Long overdue for a Canon HD camcorder a this price range.

[Fade to inferno]

I would think with the current competing dslr's they would bump down the price for something like this

[valdi99]

I would think with the current competing dslr's they would bump down the price for something like this

I do agree, price seems a to high. However I would pay 2K$ if they would give it removable lenses. Or when lenses could be replaced with a collar-mount accepting 35mm (still photography) lenses. Then it would be top-ever-seller!

[cgbier]

I think the Panasonic HMC40 seems to be a better buy

For MY job, the two card slots would be an argument already for the Canon.

[jordanService]

I think most ppl here come at video from a film stand point, but this could be great for a doc/ eng set up.

[Clayton]

never mind, enjoy the pics

[Daniel Rutter]

Dude... there's like 4 other threads already for this camera...

[drapeama]

Dude... there's like 4 other threads already for this camera...

...let him be happy in this thread. (but yeah, there's already a couple of threads about that that have been created since last week)
...as CW would say: READ before posting.

[DebG.]

Can't find a price on this yet which makes me nervous.
Saw the Vixia HF G10 is about $1500? Thought this would be more of a replacement for the HV40 and the XA10 more of an upgrade.

Deborah


EDIT:
OK, WHOOPS, JUST FOUND THIS THREAD THAT SEEMS TO BE ACTIVE:
http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?4...-on-March-2011
SORRY...
HAS THE PRICE AT $2000
TIME TO MERGE THREADS, MOD?

[Almohada]

I think I saw the price on it at $1,999.99

[koolpenguin89]

Threads merged. Please use the search function before posting a new thread.

Dylan

[scotthampton]

The price is listed at $2K street, but I doubt it'll be that much when it hits all the shops. Early adopters will eat the premium price tag, but I'm waiting until I have the money (at which time the price will definitely drop). The price will drop once enough people jump on it and start filling the Internet-waves with its praises and the user-praise kicks in.

The manual control, to me, is a life saver and worth the money. I'm honestly sick and tired of the hacks to make my HV20s work the way it should: the cell phone trick and Irv's manual focus ring, in particular. Much more headache than they're worth. And the piddly mic input, motor noise and all of that stuff.

[chico_stang]

For MY job, the two card slots would be an argument already for the Canon.

I know, that and the fact that it has 64GB built in flash memory is a huge advantage over the Panasonic. I meant that the Panasonic is a better buy in terms of overall features. I mean, the HMC40 not only records Full HD but also different 720p flavors and 60p. Not only that but it has 3 chips instead of one and physical buttons for most of the important stuff. It costs way less than the MSRP of the XA10 (Around $1660 in Amazon last time I checked).

The Canon does not have most of these features, and most if not all the settings are in the menus. However, I will reserve full judgment until I have seen footage from it. If the HV series was any indication, the PQ of this could be amazing, and in the end that matters more to some people than other features.

[Daniel Rutter]

The Canon does not have most of these features, and most if not all the settings are in the menus. However, I will reserve full judgment until I have seen footage from it. If the HV series was any indication, the PQ of this could be amazing, and in the end that matters more to some people than other features.

If it is indeed a step-up from the HV, I may even trade my HV in for one of these.

[Clayton]

Seeing what this can do using the AVCHD codec should be interesting. I've not been terribly impressed by consumer level cameras using AVCHC compression even at 24Mbps, at least not until now.
I May spend the extra bank for the XF100 and bypass AVCHD all together. For now Ill reserve my judgement until I see what both the GH10 and the XA10 can do. Honestly the Canon HV cameras have been the best looking cameras (in good light) of anything even remotely in their class. So these new cameras have lots to live up to. I admit I would have preferred to see their bit rate go closer to 50Mbps but again, just have to wait and see. I have been shooting a great deal with DLSR's lately and have invested some in lenses for that work flow. However Ive been keeping an eye out for a standard video camera that performs better in "mood lighting". Needing once again to have good motorized zoom capability and long recording times that video cameras have. Not very impressed with SONY at the $4,000 and below price point. I think Canon is clearly going to lock that space up.

[chico_stang]

I just found this video:



The camcorder is really small. It has zoom and rec controls on the handle too.

[Almohada]

I'm honestly sick and tired of the hacks to make my HV20s work the way it should: the cell phone trick and Irv's manual focus ring, in particular.

You haven't heard of the HVFF?????? The #1 must-have accessory for the Canon HV series? You've been missing out. Check it out on the DIY & Modifications sub-forum

[dop16mm]

Need to lower the price point of the whole line and get the xf100 down to about 2k. That's the one I want, It can actually record in exactly the same format as HV cams for seamless multicam workflow, or 50 mbit 422 for higher end productions or greenscreen stuff. Now if my 2 hv20's suddenly kack and I find myself contemplating avchd as an option, the xa10 + g10 looks like it could be a solid A/B cam option.

[HD-tography]

It looks like that XLR equipped handle mounts into the hot shoe? The build looks exactly the same as my HF S200 except for the rear screws... I wonder if they will release the handle separately and make it compatible with the HF S series (HF S200, HF S20, HF S21) via a firmware update?

[Daniel Rutter]

via a firmware update?

bahahahaa.... in your dreams.