There's not much to mess up. Even if you "mess up", you can take out the battery and revert all changes.Originally Posted by Robehgo14
There's not much to mess up. Even if you "mess up", you can take out the battery and revert all changes.
Yes, I've seen the menus. However, I'd feel safer with a build that only includes what I actually need.
The risk is the same either way. Taking away features doesn't help you. It's like saying, "oh, I'm only doing 30mph over the speed limit instead of 50mph". It doesn't make a difference because you're still getting a ticket. Except you're on a road that is almost never monitored by police. Yay for metaphors.
You want to know what else you guys haven't mentioned. The fact that warranty is most likely still intact. Check this out:
http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/F...my_warranty.3F
No. ML actually modifies tha camera firmware. Just a little (the autoboot flag), but it does.
That text referred to CHDK, which is just "volatile" software - no change at all to the camera firmware.
Even if a mixed metaphor sings, it should be derailed...
Sick of the Fear
Yeah, I know. I actually DID it. What's the point of Magic Lantern adding the bit about CHDK then to their FAQ? And even if it does void the warranty, just stop... Seriously, it's getting so damn annoying. I'm sick of seeing the, "omggg imma break my caaAAMERAAA".
How many thousands of downloads with success do you need to realize it's not going to break anything? I'm like so sick of trying to convince people. If you follow the instructions, you won't have any problems. And even if you do some how run into an issue, it's not something that cannot be reversed.
If you want to be scared of everything and not shoot with it, fine -- I don't care anymore. I'll have the ability to do these main things:
01. Disable AGC
02. Monitor Audio Levels
03. Control Audio Gain
04. More ISO Speeds
05. Kelvin White Balance Control
06. 2.35:1 Crop Overlay
07. Bit Rate Control w/ QScale Parameter
08. Zebra Stripes for Over and Under Exposure
09. Monitor CMOS Temperature
10. More here.
There's a bunch of things I didn't even add -- and there's even more things on the way. Also, let's say a new build comes out. All I have to do is overwrite two files on my SDHC card and I'm done. No additional hacking required. No redoing anything with the firmware -- it's just that simple. Even if I change my mind with a new build I can just overwrite the files with the old build -- Or I can choose to not use it completely since they give you the option to revert all.
So where's the risk again? Oh yeah, you're scared that your $800ish dollar camera is going to brick. According to Magic Latern, after 2000+ downloads there have been no cases of bricking. There have been minor issues but most of all of them were caused by people not following the instructions carefully. And just about all of these minor problems have solutions. The worst case scenario is that you cause the processor to go into a loop and the camera over heats (which is only caused by you NOT following the instructions). You simply remove the battery, and start over. Big deal.
Did mine a few nights ago, tried to followed the MAC route but I'm on Linux mainly so had to interpret. Took me three attempts to flash the cam because I didn't read the bit about having the cam in a certain mode to flash. But all went well after that. :-)
You can choose which options to run through the menu. So what you're saying is perfectly possible.I'd like a build with just the zebras and the manual audio. Less chances of freezing?
I only use manual audio and intermediate ISO's myself. Custom white balance (in K temperatures) when I have the time to set up.
Every other option is set to off and saved that way, so next time I boot up in ML, things are the way I like 'm.
The normal Canon menu still works 100% by the way, so you can still change ISO and white balance (and picture style, ...) through the regular Canon menu.
If you do so, it overrides the ML settings and the changes are reflected in the ML menu.
cosign 100%.
I guess some people will only use Magic Lantern when it comes with a handwritten (using alex's blood as ink) statement guaranteeing full warranty, psychological assistance and free 3-week stay at Club Med in case of anything not working the way they want it.
If you want warranty, use the original Canon firmware as long as your warranty lasts.
However, if you want this camera to do more than it could do originally, try Magic Lantern.
But don't expect a couple of people who devote their spare time to adding options to an already great camera AND making this available to everyone to offer you a full warranty. Giving full warranty would also mean having to charge money for it (you buy a product + warranty) and Canon's legal dept. would be very quick to shut this whole thing down.
If +2,000 happy customers won't convince you, nothing will. Your loss.
Last edited by krewcial; 2011 January 12th at 08:57.
Well, nothing's stopping you from developing your own build. Hey, as a developer you can even offer yourself an unlimited lifetime warranty ! 2 problems solved ;-)
Hey guys, you're not getting my point. It's NOT about bricking.
What I would NOT like is to have the camera lock up in the middle of an important shoot. The risk of bricking is minute, but people have experienced lock-ups pretty often.
Start over, yeah? Telling the people in front of the camera that "oops - we'll do this again, the camera just locked up..." (I have a documentary about hot-air ballooning in the works, so I'd just ask them to come down again and do a new lift-off?)
Get it?
As I said before, these cameras are not 100% reliable, but Janke, I do see your point. I still think you are missing out. Like the auto start feature. When you reach the 12 min mark and the cam stops recording, it now automatically starts up again. Talk about not wanting to miss something lol.
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Janke, if that's your main concern, you should ALWAYS have 2 cameras running simultaneously, cos any camera can have a battery failure, media hiccup or plaing malfunctioning.
I practically have (come March 10th, you'll see...): a HV30 and a T2i/550D. Never lost a scene, yet...
Oh, 12 minutes is quite enough for me. I don't do rock concerts...
I don't have any lockups at all, Janke. Not with the newer builds. I've been using my T2i a lot lately and no issues at all.
You should do it.
Just turn everything off except what you need.
Believe me, I was terrified when I first loaded it on the camera.
When I said the bit about "starting over", I was referring to the install process; once it's installed properly there is no lock ups. So no, I don't "get it".
Ditto, but she always asks for more :-D
Janke, you are someone whom would benefit so much from the extra features in the Magic Lantern Firmware. What I mean is, you would get the weapons, and know what to do with them. C'mon, everyone is doing it! Peer pressure peer pressure peer pressure! I guess its better late than never, we'll keep reporting back here on how awesome the new features are until you get outta the dark and join us.
lol
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At last zebras at close to 255.:-) But setting threshold to 255 switches them off:-( Also flicking through crop bmps switches cam off. But much awesomeness time-lapse live histogram so so useful
Conflicting information - Does not compute - Danger, Will Robinson, danger - Destroy, Destroy...
There's a lot more quotes I could use with people saying "no lock ups". And he didn't say anything about locking up - he said turns off if he selects a crop bmp, which again, is something abnormal that no one else is experiencing; something that probably got fixed in a more recent build too. If you follow the instructions, you won't get problems.Conflicting information - Does not compute - Danger, Will Robinson, danger - Destroy, Destroy...
Probably so.
But I'll wait a while for a still stabler build - even the remaining small problems are bound to be solved sooner or later.
I have no immediate need for the ML, it's winter here, nothing to shoot... (Come spring, I'll hopefully be shooting hot air balloons.)
Three things get me to looking over my shoulder:
Fanatics (about anything)
"True believers"
Zealots
When anyone is "chastising" others failure to "follow suit" like some of you fellows they seem to fall in one of those categories. Now there may be no danger in trying this "hack", but the way Canon found a way to put a fast halt to it with the 7D tells me that company has got to be working "feverishly" to come up with something in this case.
I may try it yet, but your approach does not inspire a lot of confidence.
Bruce Foreman
I am a reforming videomaking addict
I was under the impression that "true believers" were the ones who believed something despite evidence to the contrary. Repetition of experimental results is the basis for scientific reason, not blind faith.
ok I just had to. While in a home studio listening to loud music, I had another perfect opportunity to fine tune my audio gains. Here's a quick sample of the great audio captured:
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