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    Default Can't make .wmv file in Sony Vegas, it crashes at 5%, made a DVD just fine

    Any suggestions?

    I tried pre rendering some of the green screen shots, changing this and that, but no matter what crashes at 5 or 6 percent.

    I'm using Sony vegas Platinum 9. Never had major problems before. Tried different versions of the project, changing some things in the project, still crashes at 5 or 6% everytime.

    I'm defraging my disk drive, but it probably won't help.

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    check your settings if u alter them wrong you will not be able to render what vegas are you using 8, 9 or 10

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    Vegas 9. Alter them how?

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    there is always a chance to frame serve it to WMNicEnc free wmv encoder, http://www.videohelp.com/tools/WMNicEnc , it loads avisynth file

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    Copy/paste the whole timeline to a new project, set the right project properties, retry on the new window.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eugenia Loli-Queru View Post
    Copy/paste the whole timeline to a new project, set the right project properties, retry on the new window.
    I"m going to give it a shot. Is there a way to copy everything at once? I have three tracks of video with tiny cuts all over the place, and 4 tracks of sound, all cut up as well, some smashed together. Seems kinda hard to click on each piece while holding down the shift key and selecting them all without deselecting something.

    I've tried rendering down my green screen shots to a .wmv file, and sticking those in the time line, instead of leaving the two video tracks, and that helps some. I got as far as 20% before it crashed this time. I have a core i7 with 8 gigs of ram, and it doesn't seem over taxed. Don't know why Vegas is having such a fit.

    I'm ready to switch to Adobe Premiere, but I'm sure it has bugs too. Thanks for taking time to respond Mrs. Queru.

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    Why that above mentioned free encoder is not even considered ? Works all right, it is free, you have the best possible resize , deinterlace, available through Avisynth ,you can use color change from HD -> SD.
    AviSource("C:\frame.server.file.avi")
    #deinterlace of your choice, if needed
    ConvertToYV12()
    ColorMatrix(mode="Rec.709->Rec.601")
    Spline36Resize(480,270)

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Al_ View Post
    Why that above mentioned free encoder is not even considered ? Works all right, it is free, you have the best possible resize , deinterlace, available through Avisynth ,you can use color change from HD -> SD.
    AviSource("C:\frame.server.file.avi")
    #deinterlace of your choice, if needed
    ConvertToYV12()
    ColorMatrix(mode="Rec.709->Rec.601")
    Spline36Resize(480,270)
    Are saying rip the DVD and convert it back to a .wmv? I usually render to 8Mbps 1080p 30p, and upload that to youtube, and it looks good. I assume that ripping the DVD and turning that into a wmv will result in a loss of quality?

    I haven't used Avisynth, don't know anything about it.

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    Ok, the copy paste isn't going to well. Mixed up sound that previously synced, lots of other small glitches. Would be like editing from scratch to fix it all.
    Last edited by Gillvane; 2010 November 17th at 12:18.

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    Will the project render to something like QT (or AVI, huge I know)? If so you can install one of the free Windows Media Encoder kits (now they offer "Expression Encoder 4" for free too) and use that to make the WMV file. See http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Windows_Media_Encoder for info.
    Last edited by chipgallo; 2010 November 17th at 12:38.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipgallo View Post
    Will the project render to something like QT (or AVI, huge I know)? If so you can install one of the free Windows Media Encoder kits (now they offer "Expression Encoder 4" for free too) and use that to make the WMV file. See http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Windows_Media_Encoder for info.
    Ok, now I'm making progress. It chugged along and made a 64 gb .avi file.

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    I put the .avi file back into a new Vegas project, and now I'm rendering that to a .wmv file for the web. Thanks everyone that responded. I think this will finally work. I'm saving my pennies for Adobe Premiere, but that will take a lot of pennies. For now I'll just have to jump through hoops till I get Vegas to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillvane View Post
    Are saying rip the DVD and convert it back to a .wmv? I usually render to 8Mbps 1080p 30p, and upload that to youtube, and it looks good. I assume that ripping the DVD and turning that into a wmv will result in a loss of quality?

    I haven't used Avisynth, don't know anything about it.
    No, you encode directly from Vegas's timeline. Debug mode frame server installed into Vegas can export avi file, its size is a couple of kB big perhaps, it is somewhat virtual file , that file reads Avisynth through script that I gave you it is saved as file.avs with notepad, loads into free Nic's WMEnc, yeah, it might seems weird, but some encoders can load a script. So at the end of that chain, that Nic's WMEnc just gets some frames he needs for encoding , (hence frame serving) You don't need to export intermediate file, like you just did.

    But anyway, you have solved it, but definitely look into it someday. There is h.264 free encoders out there, that can load that frame server avi from Vegas directly (Ripbot264, Staxrip) and you do not need to know anything about Avisynth, you just need to have it installed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Al_ View Post
    No, you encode directly from Vegas's timeline. Debug mode frame server installed into Vegas can export avi file, its size is a couple of kB big perhaps, it is somewhat virtual file , that file reads Avisynth through script that I gave you it is saved as file.avs with notepad, loads into free Nic's WMEnc, yeah, it might seems weird, but some encoders can load a script. So at the end of that chain, that Nic's WMEnc just gets some frames he needs for encoding , (hence frame serving) You don't need to export intermediate file, like you just did.

    But anyway, you have solved it, but definitely look into it someday. There is h.264 free encoders out there, that can load that frame server avi from Vegas directly (Ripbot264, Staxrip) and you do not need to know anything about Avisynth, you just need to have it installed.
    I am definitely going to look into that. It may be more simple that it sounds, but it does sound kinda complicated. However, I'm sure I'll run into a similar problem in the future, and this would be good to know, so thanks for taking time to post. I'd like to avoid making 64 Gb files as an intermediate if I can.

    This is the finished piece:

    http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?4...979#post363979

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    It's a work-around solution but you may want to finish troubleshooting the problem of not being able to render to WMV format directly. There could also be other render outputs that aren't working as well. Glad you got the WMV generated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipgallo View Post
    It's a work-around solution but you may want to finish troubleshooting the problem of not being able to render to WMV format directly. There could also be other render outputs that aren't working as well. Glad you got the WMV generated.
    It's just this one saved project. I don't know when the issue occurred, but no matter what I did, this particular project would not render a wmv. Any new project I open up renders wmv just fine.

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