I Don't Belong Here (7D Short Film)

[conradstudios]

Just finished this puppy this morning. Fresh out of the oven. Let me know what you all think.

[Khufu1969]

Very well made! I can't help but wonder if you got the rights to use that song and if not what will happen when you have to change it out for something else?

Thanks for sharing.

[Almohada]

Great use of the 7D, not ridiculous DOF like other users. I like the last shot a lot

[paperkut12]

Really liked it, but I feel the song added a ton to the short. If you got the rights though that's another story. Well done either way.

[Khufu1969]

Really liked it, but I feel the song added a ton to the short. If you got the rights though that's another story. Well done either way.

Exactly why I asked. I generally try not to edit to any music that's not mine to work with because I have been burned in the past and it basically doubled the time I spent editing a project trying to rework new music in to it.

[Steve_Karl]

You've got a lot of extremely nice looking shots there. It's great visually.

I, personally, don't like the sound track and didn't understand anything other than someone feels alienated, I think.
I don't think a film should rely on the sound track to get the message across if that's what the "you're so f'n special" was supposed to do.

[conradstudios]

You've got a lot of extremely nice looking shots there. It's great visually.

I, personally, don't like the sound track and didn't understand anything other than someone feels alienated, I think.
I don't think a film should rely on the sound track to get the message across if that's what the "you're so f'n special" was supposed to do.

The soundtrack really has nothing to do with it. The entire film is about a man who lacks personality and must find his own by examining others through their feelings and emotions. He acts as a mirror and in the end, we are left with the thought that he isn't the only one. Many people feel like him.

[Khufu1969]

The soundtrack really has nothing to do with it. The entire film is about a man who lacks personality and must find his own by examining others through their feelings and emotions. He acts as a mirror and in the end, we are left with the thought that he isn't the only one. Many people feel like him.

I'd like to see you convey this without that song if the song isn't the crux of things here. In my opinion the song 100% tells the story here all the way to the title of the film.

[Jim E]

The soundtrack really has nothing to do with it. The entire film is about a man who lacks personality and must find his own by examining others through their feelings and emotions. He acts as a mirror and in the end, we are left with the thought that he isn't the only one. Many people feel like him.

Of course, the title said it all, and the song lyrics did help to carry the film, but your visuals illustrated it quite well. I must admit I was thinking, Oh, no, more teenage angst! But you managed to temper that with just enough variety of mood to avoid making it cloying. The final scene was unexpectedly moving, I have to say.

I liked it. Thanks.

[conradstudios]

I'd like to see you convey this without that song if the song isn't the crux of things here. In my opinion the song 100% tells the story here all the way to the title of the film.

I have to respectfully disagree...

Here is my analysis:
http://thelightningisayellowfork.tum...dontbelonghere

Of course, the title said it all, and the song lyrics did help to carry the film, but your visuals illustrated it quite well. I must admit I was thinking, Oh, no, more teenage angst! But you managed to temper that with just enough variety of mood to avoid making it cloying. The final scene was unexpectedly moving, I have to say.

I liked it. Thanks.

Thank you very much.

[ctbehrens]

Well done.

[Timbit]

Good job!

[Gillvane]

It's shot well, and edited nicely. We can all add HUGE bang to our projects by using commercial music that people know and can relate to, in this case Creep by Radiohead. It's like collaborating with another artist, a really talented artist.

But an artist needs to give you permission to collaborate with them. What if I decide to use this footage in my film because I want to collaborate with conradstudios, but dont' ask permission, and just use the footage because it will make my film better?

Plus, film festivals require rights, and youtube can block your video if they detect use of songs without rights.

I could make anything I shoot instantly look better with well know popular music, but without the rights it just seems like cheating.

That being said, I will use music I don't have rights to for something that's more for personal use. Like, I just want to upload some footage of a friends party or something, and I'm not going to enter in film festivals, it's just footage I want to show to friends and acquaintances, that sort of thing.

[conradstudios]

That being said, I will use music I don't have rights to for something that's more for personal use. Like, I just want to upload some footage of a friends party or something, and I'm not going to enter in film festivals, it's just footage I want to show to friends and acquaintances, that sort of thing.

This WAS for personal use. Just for the web. No film festivals or anything of that sort.

[Gillvane]

This WAS for personal use. Just for the web. No film festivals or anything of that sort.

Well, no worries then. It's a solid piece. Shame not to enter it in festivals really.

Although, I've become rather ambivalent about film festivals. For feature films, absolutely. That's how you find a distribution deal, even though it's still a long shot.

For shorts? Probably no distribution deal, but there's a chance some people see it on the big screen. Not sure it's worth it.

[conradstudios]

Although, I've become rather ambivalent about film festivals. For feature films, absolutely. That's how you find a distribution deal, even though it's still a long shot.

I completely agree. Features are what studios are looking for. Cheers.

[Gillvane]

I completely agree. Features are what studios are looking for. Cheers.

So then, if I'm not entering festivals with my short, I'm free to just use any music I want? That would be rather liberating.

[conradstudios]

So then, if I'm not entering festivals with my short, I'm free to just use any music I want? That would be rather liberating.

Movies are about the freedom of expression, do what you want man. It's not like I always use copyrighted music. I just wrapped my first feature film titled "The Shadow People" and I am working with a talented composer. It's all about your vision!

[Gillvane]

Movies are about the freedom of expression, do what you want man. It's not like I always use copyrighted music. I just wrapped my first feature film titled "The Shadow People" and I am working with a talented composer. It's all about your vision!

Well, there's also that little thing called intellectual property.

[conradstudios]

Well, there's also that little thing called intellectual property.

Yes there is.

[HueyNRolf]

Lovely pictures and editing, but it's a silent movie, maybe it is a damn good one, but a silent movie none the less.

I'm sorry, but these things went the way of the dodo decades ago. No matter how nice the pictures and music, I can't help but think of Buster Keaton, Charlie Chaplin and the Keystone cops.

[Dr. Benway]

I watched it muted - it seemed like a study in self-loathing, jealousy, depression, and weathering a crap existence.

[Dr. Benway]

Movies are about the freedom of expression, do what you want man.

I agree in post-appropriation - our world is increasingly obsessed with money and ownership. Art can help subvert that by taking what it wants and re-packaging it as satire, or any number of incarnations.
I understand loss of profit - but us using a Brian Eno or Boards of Canada track in our non-commercial videos is not ripping them off.

[Gillvane]

I agree in post-appropriation - our world is increasingly obsessed with money and ownership. Art can help subvert that by taking what it wants and re-packaging it as satire, or any number of incarnations.
I understand loss of profit - but us using a Brian Eno or Boards of Canada track in our non-commercial videos is not ripping them off.

Actually it is. Ownership is not just about loss of profit, but control of your property.

Let's say you went on vacation for a week, and someone decided that since you weren't tehre, and since you werent' renting the house (so there would be no loss of profit), they would just stay in your house while you were gone, without your permission. Would that be ok with you?

I'm thinking no, unless you are a really strange person.

you also get to control your brand or identity, and associate with whom you choose. The person that owns the Intellectual property may not want to be associated with you, because you are not a good film maker, or because you smell bad. It's their property, so they get to make the call.

I'm just sayin', ownership isn't just about "profits".

What if you dont' ride your bike anymore. Can anyone else just come take and ride it if they want to? You're not losing profits, your'e not riding it.

See what I mean? The point is, it's YOUR bike. You decide when someone rides it, because you own it. Nothing to do with profits.

How about I use your video for the next music video I want to make? I'm not going to ask you, I'm just going to use it however I want to. After all, you wouldnt' lose any profits would you?

[Khufu1969]

I agree in post-appropriation - our world is increasingly obsessed with money and ownership. Art can help subvert that by taking what it wants and re-packaging it as satire, or any number of incarnations.
I understand loss of profit - but us using a Brian Eno or Boards of Canada track in our non-commercial videos is not ripping them off.

I have no issue with this as long as your film can stand on it's own feet without this music. I feel this film is based 100% on that song all the way to the title. He claims it's not so I'd really like to see it cut with some copyright free music. BTW I love both of your choices in artists you mentioned.

Cheers.