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    Default can neoscene remove pulldown AND do deinterlacing?

    I was thinking of buying this software in the coming weeks and wondered if it does both, deinterlacing and pulldown removal. I'm using an hv20 and have Vegas 9.0 platnum.

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    Yes...but you can't do it at the same time, your choices are as follows 1. Deinterlace 2. Maintain Source Frame Format 3. Convert to 24p (NTSC only) It does remove pulldown as it takes the file from your camera tape to the .avi so it is very nice. I have used Neoscene for about a year. It was worth the money because it also preserves the 4:2:2 color space, and most programs for this amount of money does not do that.
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    After the pull down is performed, you end up with progressive video and there is no need to do deinterlacing. Deinterlacing is used for interlaced video.

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    What I really want to do is get rid of the blocky lines when there's movement in frame. I shoot almost everything in Hdv24p on my hv20

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    Shaun, can I do all three of those choices? One after the other?

    If not, which do you prefer?

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    What about NeoHD? Does it worth the price? Isn't it just comes with some presets to work real time in Premiere? i need some education =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunchbox View Post
    What about NeoHD? Does it worth the price? Isn't it just comes with some presets to work real time in Premiere? i need some education =)
    If that's your attempt at sarcassim with my question, I didn't appreciate it. I'm not very computer savvy. Don't have to make me feel bad because of it, though.

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    I really want to know more about NeoHD. Not sure how you read sarcassim from what I type... but you are entitled to your feeling.

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    Sonne,

    I also have an Hv20 and film in 24p. With neoscene all you have to do is check the "Maintain Source Frame Format" and it will automatically do the pulldown for you. The resulting video will be an uncompressed .avi with 23.976 frames per second. This will take care of your blocky lines during your frames. You can download a free trial of the software, you should do that and play around with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaunp007 View Post
    Sonne,

    I also have an Hv20 and film in 24p. With neoscene all you have to do is check the "Maintain Source Frame Format" and it will automatically do the pulldown for you. The resulting video will be an uncompressed .avi with 23.976 frames per second. This will take care of your blocky lines during your frames. You can download a free trial of the software, you should do that and play around with it.
    I downloaded a trial version. Just wondering ... wouldn't convert to 24 be better than than maintaning source frame format? I don't understand the difference

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    you don't need to convert to 24 because your source footage is 24 frames per second and you are checking the "maintain source frame format" because you want to "Maintain" what you shot. But Neoscene will remove the pulldown and the blocky artifact lines will be gone. If you started with 30 frames per second, what you captured through your cam, but for some reason wanted 24 frames, under those conditions only would you check the "Convert to 24 frames /sec" box.
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    If you use a HV20, you need to select convert to 24P as your frames are embedded in interlaced video, NOT maintain the frame rate. My experience with NEOHD has been somewhat mixed as my computer is a laptop with Core 2 Duo (2.5). In the past, Cineform would help to run HD video more smoothly, but now HDV is actually smoother in Premiere CS5 than my cineform neohd files. I have to disable the RT engine and use the desktop setting, to do multicam work. Color correction and framing can be done in First Light and that works well. Ofcourse, the advantage of working with a better intermediate video pays off if the original video is good and the delivery medium is HD BlueRay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vince View Post
    If you use a HV20, you need to select convert to 24P as your frames are embedded in interlaced video, NOT maintain the frame rate
    I don't agree at all. I have been using NeoScene for over a year with an HV20 and filming in 24p and selecting "Maintain Source Frame Format" gives me 23.976 frames per second and removes pulldown. Using the "Convert to 24p" button will probably get you what you want, but you listed that you NEED to do this, and I cannot agree with that.
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