I don't think anybody out there looking for 35mm adapters for their HV cams is too concerned about this. Why would you think this to be any different???Originally Posted by cgbier
I don't think anybody out there looking for 35mm adapters for their HV cams is too concerned about this. Why would you think this to be any different???
I'd use it like you said you use a stills camera. Support the heaviest part. In this case I'd support the lens in my left hand (and focus/zoom with it), wrist turned so the fingers on my left hand are on the right side, elbow into my stomach, and hold the camera in my right with the viewfinder to my eye.
A number of us loved the original Canon Optura as it looked and worked more like a stills camera. Much preferred that form factor for steady hand held shooting. Another reason I like the GH1.
Nice long discussion threads on the camera here and here.
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I'm probably going to wait untill this comes out, before i buy a dof for my cam now.
I was about to buy a handy35, 3 to 5 lens, and etc. After i buy all that, i will be close to the price of this cam(including the HV30 i just bought). I like what i am hearing about it so far. I'm thinking strongly about getting it. But i do change my mind alot...lol Hopefully some reviews will come out soon.
Better quality out of the Sony anyway. With the HV and a 35mm adapter you're still stuck with the original lens (within the cam) that can't be changed. With the interchangeable lenses on the Sony you can change them ALL out to what ever suits your needs.
good point. I was also thinking about not having to mess with flip hacks or mounting the cam upside down. Flipping it in editing is really no big deal. I wish Canon was coming out with something like that soon. The HV30 has been my first Canon, and it's my fave so far.
I can see a lot of cable reality show producers adding this to there kit until a pro model is available. The 30p look is all over food network and travel et al. If it truly does look as good as the bali video it will be something, but most of that video was not shot on the stock lens.
Its not going to be too long before there is a similarly spec'd cam is available with 24p for dramatic producers to consider.
The more I read about this in official articles, the more I'm convinced that this is a proper video tuned implementation of the sensor, and sony may have it right. It doesn't have a raw function for stills so not to be scrutinized by pixel peepers looking through a video strenth olpf.
The next generation nex slr the nex 7 will be out later in the fall with 1080 24p, 60p and supposedly 720p 120fps wo hoo, so if you can wait till next spring for generation 2 it may be something.
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I like that internal mic with its advanced directionality. I always wanted to hear if the handling noise comes from my left or right paw.
But the external mic jack in the handle? What did they think?
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I hate technology and how it keeps advancing slow down!!!!!! I had made my mind up on buying a T2i till i saw this. I guess real camcorders are fighting back against the DSLRs. The reason i wanted the t2i is because of the interchangeable lens and the video quality and this camera sums it all up. I know the t2i doesn't shoot long video, but i don't shoot any scenes longer than 11-15 minutes anyways. The not having 24p is a big whoop in my decision. I don't always use it but its there when i need it or want to use it. So now the money iv'e been saving for a t2i is gonna build up till at least 3 companies adapt the interchangeable lens prosumer camera then ill choose from there.
I noticed the low light quality of this camera is excellent.
Question how does this camera as far as specs compare to the 5d.
I know I know ones a primary still camera and the others primary video,
but they are both hybrids.
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Do they mention anything about autofocus.
i think the lenses have silent autofocus
Ring motors inside of the lens are standard nowadays. Nikon's screwdriver AF lenses are a thing of the past.
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Have to say, this looks like a very interesting piece of kit. The price is about right, considering that it has a huge (relative to typical camcorder imaging devices) APS-C sensor, shoots video, *and* stills at up to 7fps, plus it includes a high-quality 18-200mm zoom lens and the ability to change lenses. If the footage I've seen is anything to go by, the DOF this camcorder offers is amazing. The Bali footage is simply stunning. It looks quite cinematic, and doesn't look like 30p at all. Although I wonder what kind of tweaking Sony may have done to get it to look that good, apart from using a lens with really shallow DOF.
Ever since video-capable DSLR's came out, I've been wondering when Sony, Canon, Panasonic, et al. were going to come out with a hybrid that successfully marries the functions of a still camera with a camcorder. Looks like I don't have to wonder anymore. It's here. I think Sony are going to sell a ton of these. It'll be interesting to see how Canon and Panasonic try to counter it.
So what if it does only 1080i? Deinterlace, or use pulldown, and you can have 24/30p footage.
Ergonomically speaking, a DSLR is optimized for taking stills, but needs special braces, etc. to work really well as a video camera. On the other hand, the vast majority of camcorders don't take good stills. So if the stills on the NEX-VG10 are as good as they are on a standard digital SLR, I may very well get one. It would let me have just one camera instead of the two I have now - a digital SLR and a camcorder.
Now, there's just the matter of selling the SLR I have and the camcorder first. (I wonder if we're soon going to see a flood of people on eBay trying to sell off their camcorders/SLR's so they can finance a VG10?)
It is interesting. But the more I look into it, the more it seems to me a glorified soccer-mom cam. The concept is brilliant, but, as often, Sony falls short again: Barely any accessible manual settings.
They should have taken the body of the A1, clean out the guts, then plant in the sensor and lens mount. Keep the detachable XLR block, but add a handle to it ala JVC HM100, and, most of all, put a real mic on that cam. The crappy, highly customizable, touchscreen of the A1 beats the pathetic controls of VG10 by miles.
Even though it is in a different league, the JVC HM100 looks better by the day. Or will Sony bring a second, more "professional" model?
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I pre-ordered a NEXVG10e (25p/50i) from DigitalRev. $1299.00 Canadian. Also I bought a nanoflash package at B&H - $2995.00 (that is the real investment as I don't think it will get much better that quick Whereas I am sure Sony will be putting out a more pro version for under 4k shortly to compete. But it will always be a very compressed codec internally. I figure the NexVg10e does what I would want the DSLR to do - be a big chip with a lens mount and uncompressed out. I've used the nano with my hv20 and it works great. At that price for the package I don't think there is anything better...today.
Isn't Canada a NTSC country???
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Si! Canada is NTSC just like it's American counterpart.
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So why would someone from Canada buy a 25p/50i cam? They are usually more expensive.
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Beats me. I'd go American if I couldn't find it in Canada. Canadian prices are usually only $100-$200 dollars more than listed US dollars.
Henry's has these cameras if you order, so there isn't a big problem with it not being available.
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"Too bad you're going to have to waste a bunch of money on Sony lenses for it (if you're a DSLR user, chances are you're only stocked up on Canon or Nikon lenses)." - Gizmodo Article
My idea is to just wait until canon releases something like this.
BTW. I've been waiting for a Still/Vid camera that does NOT handle like an SLR, which I never really liked for ergonomics. My first hand holdable camera and my last hand holdable (film) camera were a Box Brownie and a Hasselblad. I much prefer that form factor for still and video. The modern DSLR evolved from the handy dandy Leica shape that was handy until the shape became all weird with Huge lenses, pentaprisms etc. In a few years the 'Dslr' form factor will fade all together.
Just my 2 cents mind you
Amazon has the NEX-VG-10 in stock now. http://www.amazon.com/NEX-VG10-Full-...4666936&sr=8-1
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25p is close to 24p. It's very easy to make it into 24p (23.98) if you are going out to film. It's also very easy to make into 29.97 for NTSC broadcast of dvd. It's how they do it in most of Europe. BTW tested thing out with a 60i version and my nanoflash. The lcd kicks off as soon as you plug in an HDMI. That sucks.
Yeah, but there will be a slight pitch in the audio... not something you want to fool around with too much...
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