Bob, just a question for better understanding: Is video software part of your profession or occupation... in daily use, I mean?
Bob, just a question for better understanding: Is video software part of your profession or occupation... in daily use, I mean?
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
Too funny!
I got a "0 out of 1 members found this helpful" click about a minute I put the video (the video is longer than a minute). In other words you didn't even watch the video.... you just clicked the button.
Come on... take a friggin grow-up pill. Geeez... the maturity level of some people on this site.... I just can't get over it. My 5 year old is a bigger person.
Not in the least. I'm an Engineer and I work for our Provincial Government. I work mostly with CAD, 3D and other technical softwares during the day. We do get into video to a certain degree, but it's only as a transport for the ideas and views of the Engineering world.Originally Posted by cgbier
Video is more a hobby to me (although I do sell the odd piece of work).
Thanks, Bob.
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
There's a lot of opinions and predictions in that video... yes I did watch it.
Of course being the kunt that you are, you chose to remember that one of them described Apple as gadget maker.
I listened to all of it, but if I were snotty fanboi like you, I'd be banging on about how the only mention Sony Vegas got was likening it to iMovie.
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
No need for that kind of talk huey. Younger people read this stuff... I'll ask you to keep that in mind
I listened to all of it, but if I were snotty fanboi like you, I'd be banging on about how the only mention Sony Vegas got was likening it to iMovie.What they were saying is that the Vegas CODE is a new and up-coming concept that new apps would be based on.FCP is ancient code and so is Avid code.... new code will be written more like Vegas
For crying out loud, what are you doing here, BS?
Just collecting red skulls, it seems...
Who really cares if there is a suite of separate apps instead of one "integrated", when you go from one to the other with just a mouse click?
Who really cares if the code is old or "new", as long as the apps work?
The red skulls are not my doing... nor do I pay much attention to them.
Well it seems those of you in this thread certainly care... you're raising enough of a fuss over it!Who really cares if there is a suite of separate apps instead of one "integrated", when you go from one to the other with just a mouse click?
Who really cares if the code is old or "new", as long as the apps work?
I should also add that Vegas can be set up to do the same. Go to preferences and enter your audio app of choice. You can then highlight a section (or whole time line) of audio and right-click. that audio is automatically opened in your audio program. When you close, the adjusted audio is automatically written to the time line. It was primarily designed to work with Sony Soundforge but will work on Adobe Audition and other apps as well.when you go from one to the other with just a mouse click
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NLE is almost irrelevant as long as you have multi-track and can output a usable codec.
Ok. A film has scenes that are well-lit, in focus, and has nice audio (from whatever source and means) can you tell if something has been edited in FCP or Vegas or Avid et al?
There is not much to it - good footage cut together well and nicely graded. It's pretty simple. The challenge lies in making good looking footage in the first instance. NLE's do the same job in different ways but are fundamentally the same - capture, cut, output.
Can you pick the picture taken with a Nikon from the Canon?
I love some of Vegas' good points and find some things incredibly stupid, but I love the pretentious pro level, steep learning curve of FCS.
YouTube tutorials are my best friend.
All true, Dr. Benway.
If you do a lot of editing, it's about being productive and comfortable with your workflow. A bit like a similar discussion regarding the virtues of a boompole over a painters pole. If you've ever spent a few hours doing boom op. Then you'd understand the value of the proper kit.
It's the people who've had little or no booming experience that think a painters pole will do.
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
I'm still waiting for somebody to show me something like COLOR 1.5 in other suite and for the same or less cash :-P
all the rest of the debate.. well, pretty much evthing has been said already hehe
"The most important thing is not what's inside the camera, but rather what's in front and behind it"
Since before Apple bought Silicon Color, that program was called "Final Touch" and cost more than ten grand per copy, it might be awhile before a similar product gets 'bundled' into a competing suite with no increase in the price (btw, I find this more than a little ironic in light of Apple's cries of "Foul!" about Microsoft bundling IE and other software with Windows).
Color correcting suites have often been called "million dollar rooms" for all of the expensive hardware and software goodies they contain; while some previously stratospheric software is moving into the "almost affordable" price range (i.e., BlackMagic Design bought DaVinci and are now offering DaVinci's Resolve color correcting software for under a grand), for real-time, client-watching-over-your-shoulder grading, the need for screamingly fast, horrifyingly expensive hardware mostly remains.
I think that'd be Netscape calling 'foul,' why would apple care?(btw, I find this more than a little ironic in light of Apple's cries of "Foul!" about Microsoft bundling IE and other software with Windows).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
OT: but if I recall correctly Apple's beef with MS was they felt they ripped off a lot of the look and feel of MacOS when building Windows.... but that was in the early 90s.
NO THEY DIDN'T.What they were saying is that the Vegas CODE is a new and up-coming concept that new apps would be based on.
The hypothesis was an editor for a mobile device such as the iPhone. One of them said that such an application would be more likely to based on iMovie or Vegas than Avid or FinalCut.
It's a ridiculous idea to begin with and do you really think that apple would release an editor for iPhone based on Vegas code?
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
yeah , I knew about this as well Erik, I mentioned it before a coupla times (although not in detail as you)
so, is there something similar...?
the answer is no :-P (I'm a pragmatic, I do not care how apple got it into FCS , I just love them for having done it lolzzz)
( I would have been slightly bothered morally if apple had got it by burning a village or hurting people.. but all they did was buy a good app in all fairness of the market at that given moment.)
I WOULD have burned two villages to get color 1.5 lolzzz :-P
ok maybe just one little tiny village XD
"The most important thing is not what's inside the camera, but rather what's in front and behind it"
god damn' , this statement made me so horny
:-P
(I'm technoerotic)
"The most important thing is not what's inside the camera, but rather what's in front and behind it"
Here's one for you, Bob:
http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=36127
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
The closest thing I can think of is Color Finesse. Also quite powerful, but probably not as good as Color. Especially the user interface.
Total baloney!
"Anything written for the future will be not be based on the FCP code or the avid code"... because it is "ancient code"
I think you need to go back and listen again instead of attempting such a feeble job at twisting things.
And your point would be?????
My point is, Bob, That is just one of many posts I've read here about the bugs in Vegas. it hardly inspires confidence. I doubt I'll be rushing out to get the farking dell and editing in Sony Vegas, just because you, Sanders, claims it's better than what I have now.
I repeat, YOU'RE FULL OF SH!T. How can you write a review of a movie you've never seen?
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
Hey, I have a suggestion: Let's all ignore BS posts...
A fire burns only if it has fuel.
Janke, it's part of the forum culture. We're close to punching him into a sixth jolly roger.
The Korova milkbar sold milk-plus, milk plus vellocet or synthemesc or drencrom, which is what we were drinking. This would sharpen you up and make you ready for a bit of the old ultra-violence.
Yup... Vegas has bugs. So does just about every other software out there. Are you saying that FCP is SUPPOSED to crash? (According to the video, FCP does a lot of crashing)
I'm not the one trying to twist words CLEARLY spoken in that video.I repeat, YOU'RE FULL OF SH!T.
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