Canon T2i Vs. Sony EX-1
What do you guys think? I love the Sony EX-1, but the Canon T2i looks awesome (including the 5D & 7D). I'm really new to DSLR and have never tried one, but I have used the EX-1 a few times and love the picture quality.
I really want to buy one of these and I know the price is a huge difference, but I'm looking for comparison quality and versatility.
I'm not sure, but I think the EX-1 delivers more quality and versatility.
But more important: What are you going to shoot? Horses for courses I mean. For what I'm doing (documentaries, events), a DSLR is close to useless. If you do music videos, short films, etc, vDSLR might work out (don't forget audio!).
If you are only after selective focus, I have seen EX-1 footage that has about as shallow a DOF as DSLR with much better IQ.
IMHO, them DSLR are a tiny bit over-hyped.
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Come on... you're not serious about this are you??Originally Posted by Chi2LA623
The T21 puts out some great quality but a video cam it is certainly not. It doesn't even come CLOSE to being in the same category as the EX.
....but there are plenty of folks who own an EX-1 that have been putting their EX-1s down and using the DSLRs more...even for professional work. The EX-1 might resolve more detail but the final images of these DSLRs look better on a whole....2 me.
SO...instead of taking advice from folks who don't use both you should probably go to some forums where you can read the testimony of owners who own both these cams. I don't see anything wrong in comparing these two camera's....final images. HOW you get to theose images weighs in more on the EX-1 since it has so many ways of tweaking the image.... But...the questions are...what image do YOU prefer???....and what will you be using it for?
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I have both an EX1 and a 7D with good glass.
The 7D only wins in two categories:
1. Greater DOF control. That being said the EX1 is capable of enough DOF control in most circumstances.
2. Stealth mode. No one thinks of video when they see a DSLR.
Other than that the EX1 wins in every category, ONCE you know how to use it. And in that area it has a shorter learning curve.
I have a T2i - I'm happy to swap if you like
I shoot everything. I get a lot of jobs ranging from music videos to weddings and various other things. I guess it would be kind of hard shooting a wedding with a DSLR.
Like I said I'm very new to the whole DSLR/video craze. To me, it would take time getting used to using one. Mainly, I would want one for the DOF and the ability to switch to various lens'. I love the DOF the Ex-1 gets in itself. Aside from that I love Canon and the products they release. Plus you can't beat the price. I guess I just need to get my hands on one to mess around with to see for myself.
I think my main concern with a DSLR is how well it holds up to be used only for video all together? Thanks for all the feed back on the post, any input is helpful.
The EX-1 is a video camera. The T2i is a photo camera with the ability to shoot great video. Having said that I would go with the EX1.
Yeah, that's the way!
I guess for music videos the T2 is fine, but how it holds up during a full day of non-stop shooting during a wedding... I don't know.
If you look into exchangeable lenses and have money to burn, look into the EX-3
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I've owned my EX1 for 18 months. I still find myself reviewing footage and exclaiming, "This camera is incredible!" (It's true... just ask my wife.)
I have used video DSLRs (and myself own a Nikon D5000) and I think that EVENTUALLY they will be worthy competitors to nice video cameras like the EX1. But at the moment, the EX1 dominates. Superlative image quality, uncompressed XLR audio, over and under cranking, etc. etc.
And if you ever want to upgrade your EX1, you can get a Nanoflash and record at 50Mbps and up.
One can easily achieve shallow depth of field with an EX1.
I think Duke pegged the one advantage of a DSLR -- stealth. The EX1 isn't the most discrete (or lightweight) camera on the planet.
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Have to chime in here and point out the dichotomy. The 'trick my rig' community go to a lot of trouble and expense to mod up small consumer cams to look more like an EX1.The EX1 isn't the most discrete (or lightweight) camera on the planet.
Oh and the better IQ plus pro audio capability makes the EX1 a hands down winner.
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...and, without wanting to offend anyone here, the EX-1 is more discrete than many of the monster rigs shown in that specific thread
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
It's not saying that the EX-1 is not a better camcorder...it is...better....and a camcorder. The HV20 is a better camcorder.... But they are both camcorders. A DSLR can't replace them....period.
An EX-1 will have more detail and maybe even more color depth (Especially out of its HDMI if it's an EX-1r). But optically they will look similar. That's why a lot of folks are using them together. So, I'll echo what DP Charles Papart suggested...EX series for "unpredictable" work, DSLR for controlled situations where the shallow depth of field is desired... So, this goes back to what I asked earlier..."What will you be using it for?" Your answer should determine which camera would be better 4U.
Here's a thread in DVInfo that shows one of the guys, Carlo Zanella, using the 7D's more and more for his show (along with his EX-1).
http://www.dvinfo.net/forum/canon-eo...-steroids.html
Last edited by Ian-T; 2010 April 3rd at 00:06.
No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life...Albert Einstein
Put perfectly!
EX1
My EX1 in full outdoor movie mode. It tends to stand out. LOL (Need to be logged in to see it.)The EX1 isn't the most discrete (or lightweight) camera on the planet.
DSLR where you don't need sound or have time for a separate sound system, or have a camcorder running already. What the EX1 won't do is extremely shallow DOF with a wide lens setting.EX series for "unpredictable" work, DSLR for controlled situations where the shallow depth of field is desired...
Last edited by Duke; 2010 April 3rd at 17:24.
That is one damn fine EX1 setup, Duke!
Its actually fairly basic with several DIY items. I did one of the first ManhattenLCD projects and the monitor is one thing that is extremely useful.
The follow focus is a DJ Follow Focus from this board.
The matte box is one of the cheaper ones and I wouldn't even use it except I wanted a rotatable graduated ND filter so the sky won't be blown out.
I no longer need a preamp (like the juiced link or beachtech). The EX1 records digitally uncompressed and the sound is comparable to a modern recording studio.
I no longer need a 35mm DOF adapter as the EX1 has the 1/2" sensor and 14x zoom to control the DOF. Plus it has several times more light gathering ability.
I do carry a decent shotgun and lav mic with me in my basic kit, but the EX1 has a decent stereo mic built in. No onboard noise from a tapeless system.
That being said when I go to Florida in a couple weeks I'll take my 7D for portability's sake.
The only drawback to the EX1 is its hard to hand hold for any length of time because it tends to torque. However, with the above rig I slide the monitor off the back, slide on a shoulder rest, put a hoodloupe on, screw a center handle into the tripod whole thing is centered over my right hand (no torque) and balanced on my shoulder. Its a pleasure to shoot that way, and torture without it (as are many hand helds.)
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Last edited by Duke; 2010 April 4th at 13:23.
Choosing between these two cameras is not a problem at all depending on your shooting style. It seems u already have an idea or two about their uses, since you like Canon T2i more, i think you should go for it. 18 mega pixels resolution is already something plus its cheaper than Sony Ex1.
I suggest don't "choose". Keep the EX1 and find a way to obtain something like a T3i or 60D, then "tune" one of the DSLR's "picture styles" to come as close as you can to the way you normally use the EX1.
Best of both worlds.
Bruce Foreman
I am a reforming videomaking addict
I am a UK based videographer and I have used both the cameras in my photography carrier. There is a slight difference between Sony EX1 and Canon T2i is that in T2i the shutter speed is higher than EX1 and its auto focus is faster. And it is small enough in comparison with EX1. Otherwise in terms of money and quality both cameras are best as per my knowledge.
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Hello Simmy_M, good work and nicely presented website. There's another wedding videographer in Liverpool who posts here regularly. I guess the turf is big enough for you both, so no territory battles please.
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