Please Help me...HV30..Night Shooting

[rambabuy]

Hi Experts,

Please give me your valuable suggestions ,
I want make a short film but in night only ( Duration of My film is 4 min).
Can i shoot in midnight also? Any Settings are Equipment required?

I have HV30, raynox HD6600 Some some Colored Filters.
Can i use Blue filter for blue like frames in Night also?( like some films with light blue frames)
Is There any Other way to show A film which look like shooting done in night?
Can we make a Film in day and show it as made in night? (Because Some one in threads Mention that HV30 is not good for low light and night shooting?)
Please replay me and Delete After This Thread If required

Thanks,
Rambabu Yerajana
HV30, Raynox HD6600, 72mm Filters,Sony Tripod

[Khaver]

If shooting outdoors, I would film during the daytime with no colored filters then color correct for night effect when you edit. You'll want high contrast lighting (sunlight becomes moonlight) so you get lots of shadows.

When shooting indoors, blacken all windows except the ones on the sun side of the room. On those windows use blue celephane to filter the sunlight to look like moonlight. Again, use high contrast lighting to create lots of shadows.

[Lunchbox]

Please try to post your question in appropriate subforum.

[rambabuy]

If shooting outdoors, I would film during the daytime with no colored filters then color correct for night effect when you edit. You'll want high contrast lighting (sunlight becomes moonlight) so you get lots of shadows.

When shooting indoors, blacken all windows except the ones on the sun side of the room. On those windows use blue celephane to filter the sunlight to look like moonlight. Again, use high contrast lighting to create lots of shadows.

hi Khaver,

Thank You Very Much For your Valuable Advise, I am Still Confuse How to Make the video in Sun light and showing that Video look like shoot in night? According to your answer "its can be done through Editing Software?"

Sorry Lunchbox, I thought This Question relating to Work Flow Nway Thanks,

Please Give me Your Valuable Suggestions.....

[Erik Bien]

Khaver's suggestions are all good. One thing that can spoil the illusion of shooting day for night outdoors is the brightness of the sky — if possible, compose your outdoor shots so the sky is not seen.

Real low-light shots also tend to have shallow depth of field as a result of shooting at wide apertures: using ND filters or stacked polarizers will allow you to open the iris in bright conditions.

For the post side of things, check out this tutorial at Video Copilot to see how it's done in AfterEffects.

[rambabuy]

Khaver's suggestions are all good. One thing that can spoil the illusion of shooting day for night outdoors is the brightness of the sky — if possible, compose your outdoor shots so the sky is not seen.

Great, Thanks,

OK , If I shoot without blue colored filter in day light with hidden sky Then i could get the night Effect Right?
Please Tell me For Transforming Day to night can do through Software?
Is It equal to night shooting with light equipment ?
Thanks,

[ejolson]

OK , If I shoot without blue colored filter in day light with hidden sky Then i could get the night Effect Right?

Instead of a blue filter you can set manual white balance with an orange card.

http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?p=253820#post253820

[rambabuy]

Instead of a blue filter you can set manual white balance with an orange card.

http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?p=253820#post253820

Hi,

Why Every one talking about day to night conversion for night effect?
Is Hv30 can not capture picture in night with some room light(normal tube light)
I want make a short film which require a person (single object) to show.can i use a normal light focusing on single object?
or can i shoot in day with some blue filter or green?

[dogar]

to avoid gain you will have to use the exposure lock technique .. and once you do that , you will need lots of light to create the "subject in focus and rest dark" look. i dont think a normal tubelight would be enough to create the effect you are trying to achieve.

the reason everybody is suggesting to shoot day for night because its relatively easier , if done well .

avoid filters for blue effect , as using filters will do a light loss and there can be a some loss of quality depending on the quality of the filter. so to get a blue effect , simple white balance on a slightly yellowish or slightly orangish paper.

Thanks,
Furqan

[Erik Bien]

Why Every one talking about day to night conversion for night effect?

I thought that's what you were originally asking about ...

Is There any Other way to show A film which look like shooting done in night? Can we make a Film in day and show it as made in night?

I always prefer shooting night-for-night, but especially with cameras as slow as the HVs, that usually requires more than "available light." Here's a recent thread on lighting for night exteriors, a search should turn up several more. If you can't afford to hire a gaffer (or buy or rent lighting gear), faking it by shooting during the day and manipulating the footage in post can work almost as well.

[rambabuy]

to avoid gain you will have to use the exposure lock technique .. and once you do that , you will need lots of light to create the "subject in focus and rest dark" look. i dont think a normal tubelight would be enough to create the effect you are trying to achieve.

the reason everybody is suggesting to shoot day for night because its relatively easier , if done well .

avoid filters for blue effect , as using filters will do a light loss and there can be a some loss of quality depending on the quality of the filter. so to get a blue effect , simple white balance on a slightly yellowish or slightly orangish paper.

Thanks,
Furqan

Hi dogar,

Thank You Very Much . Your Suggestion is more helpful for me.
1) Normal Tube light is not sufficient I Have to use External Source
2)Using Filters will decrease the light balance in Original frame, rather I have to use White Balance in cam itself.


As Suggested by Erik Bien,

I can get night Effect during Post Production.


Thank you very much you, my doubts are cleared now.


Rambabu Yerajana
Hv30/Raynox 6600/nikkon f1.8/Sony Tripod

[MLBuckProductions]

What night really looks like and how people perceive it is night when watching a movie is completely different. You'd be surprised how much light is used in a "night scene" on a film set.

Basically, you will want to white balance to an orange card (somewhere around 3200K) and in post you will want to color correct as well to further improve the image.

It is completely possible to make day look like night without a filter. Remember though, if you're going to actually shoot at night you do not want to put a filter on your lens because it will stop the light even more from getting into the chip in your camera and you will have basically no image and you'll need to get more lights set up.

In my opinion, if you want a night scene, shoot it with plenty of light and white balance it to your liking.

[Jespinoa]

I'm kind of new to this Forum as well to being a user of HV40 (Just got mine a couple of days ago) So I would understand if you wouldn't take my suggestion, but if you check out Revision3.com/FilmRiot they have an episode that teaches you how to give a night effect when shooting in daylight. I found it very helpful as it explains a lot of how the lighting works. I would give you the link to the video, but I can't access the site from work!
If you find and and take a look at it, let me know what you think. It should be one of their earlier episodes.

[rambabuy]

I'm kind of new to this Forum as well to being a user of HV40 (Just got mine a couple of days ago) So I would understand if you wouldn't take my suggestion, but if you check out Revision3.com/FilmRiot they have an episode that teaches you how to give a night effect when shooting in daylight. I found it very helpful as it explains a lot of how the lighting works. I would give you the link to the video, but I can't access the site from work!
If you find and and take a look at it, let me know what you think. It should be one of their earlier episodes.

Wow,

Special Thanks to Jespinoa, That website explains shooting techniques really helpful. Thank you very much.

[QUOTE=It is completely possible to make day look like night without a filter. Remember though, if you're going to actually shoot at night you do not want to put a filter on your lens because it will stop the light even more from getting into the chip in your camera and you will have basically no image and you'll need to get more lights set up.[/QUOTE]


Ohh, I found in one of the thread that, if I focus a light on to the camera Chip then its work file Even in low light? it works for Filter also. Main thing to concentrate is how much camera chip is able to sense the light