lilliput hdmi monitor

[Jack Frost]

I'm a bit surprised that after your post, nobody even commented..... a really great demo vid you did there, and you taught me something...... I had no clue the 7D did NOT change aspect ratio...
I have the same monitor as you ( bought from Cool LCD . com ) and use it with m Canon T2i ( 550D ) and it DOES change aspect ratio to 4:3, and it drives me nuts.

Funn that the more expensive Canon also does this, yet the 7D doesn't. - Funny in a way when you think about it.

Great video, and thanks for posting !

Just Got My lilliput hdmi monitor on ebay for $180 for my 7d. Thought i'd post a video review. Since it seems like there aren't any out there.

[Janke]

it said it had 'input up to 1920x1080 pixels'. However, I just realized it says the resolution is 800 by 480. . .
If so, then I am super bummed and I feel deceived.

Deceived? Why? The ad clearly states the resolution is 800x480. If you misunderstood, that's not the seller's fault.

PS: Look at big 32" TVs, may of them can input full HD (Blu-ray, HD broadcast), but have only 1366x768 resolution, not 1920x1080.

[jakenbocker]

Hmm, I must've somehow missed coollcd.com. Double bummer. My day is not going well. It is kind of deceiving, advertising monitors with keyword 'HDMI', making people think that it has HD resolution. But, learning experience for me, I guess. Read the fine print, understand what the lingo means, and search everywhere before buying a product. Not sure yet if I'll return it, keep it, or sell it unopened. This really sucks. I was looking forward to getting a super snazzy HD monitor. :/

[SenorKaffee]

Now with internal battery (!) and shoe stand. Even if it is "only" 800x480, for 230$ it's a very good deal.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Lilliput-7-668GL...efaultDomain_0

[jakenbocker]

Even if it is "only" 800x480, for 230$ it's a very good deal.

Good deal, yes, I agree. However, my main concern is not being able to effectively focus with a monitor of this resolution. That is my main purpose. I've read that to get accurate focus, you need to have 1080x720 resolution at the least. However, below is a thread on another site where some guys got another Lilliput model (The 619GL), and they were discussing how even though the resolution was advertised as 800x480, it was still somehow outputting a 1080p image. Sounds a little sketchy to me, but I thought I'd let you guys take a look and express your thoughts. If this even has a hint of truth to it, then I may be interested to see if my 669GL model may do the same.

http://www.cinema5d.com/viewtopic.ph...t+HDMI+Monitor

Deceived? Why? The ad clearly states the resolution is 800x480. If you misunderstood, that's not the seller's fault.

Yes, I agree with you. I have been reminded of a lesson I thought I already learned: READ THE FINE PRINT. It's a silly mistake I can't believe I made. I agree, my fault, not theirs.

[Jim E]

So, Duke, you seem to know. Is this http://jag35.com/new/products/jag35-monitor/ any good?

I've read the posts here and there seem to be conflicting opinions about whether or not 800X480 is good enough for focussing. I'm using a HV40.

So, if you don't mind my asking, what's the bottom line, then?

[jakenbocker]

I've read the posts here and there seem to be conflicting opinions about whether or not 800X480 is good enough for focussing.

So, if you don't mind my asking, what's the bottom line, then?

My question exactly. Focusing=major importance. If this resolution is not suitable for this, it will seriously affect my decision of whether to return my monitor or not. Onelonedork's video above seems to show that focusing can be done, although to what degree I am not quite sure. Looked decent to me, although the resolution was slightly higher (or was it just a different aspect ratio?) on that model. Anyway, great question, Krute. Bottom line resolution for focusing = ?

[Kostas]

To my knowledge you cannot yet buy a full HD monitor at the $200 price range (maybe some 720p tv of small dimension, or the 15'' craig monitor but this has not the same flexibility). Commercial products in the 5''-7'' range offering High Definition, like Marshall and SmallHD, are more likely in the $1000 price range.

However, having owned the lilliput 669 monitor I can say that this is a fine product for the money. 800x480 resolution is being offered even in more expensive products like the Ikan 8000 HD. In my opinion, it is not top, but it is enough to frame and focus. It is better than the hv series lcd in the sense that you see the full frame that is recorded and not only a portion of it, and that it is bigger. Using the focus assist button from the hv with this monitor is great. I have heard that people with 5dmkII were praising this monitor. If you are using a t2i though you have to be aware that there is no HD out during recording so even a more expensive monitor will not help you resolve this issue. A loupe would be better in this case.

All in all the lilliput is a great product. But then again, if you need the resolution and the functionality of a SmallHD monitor, then get a SmallHD monitor. There is no secret, you always get what you pay for (I think that with the Lilliput you get a little more than what you pay for though )

My question exactly. Focusing=major importance. If this resolution is not suitable for this, it will seriously affect my decision of whether to return my monitor or not.... Anyway, great question, Krute. Bottom line resolution for focusing = ?

Before returning the monitor why don't you give it a try and see if it covers your needs?

[Jim E]

And another thing... what about those little portable DVD players you can buy? They have a USB in port, most of them. Could a HV40 output be sent to one of those? Maybe with some kind of hybrid cable - HDMI to USB, or something like that?

[Janke]

some kind of hybrid cable - HDMI to USB, or something like that?

No such animal...

[jakenbocker]

No such animal...

Haha! To put it bluntly.

@Kostas: Thank you for your very well-explained answer. Exactly what I was looking for. Based on this, my excitement for this monitor is renewed. I'm psyched for it to arrive so I can use it...that is, if it ever gets out of U.S. customs. It's been stuck there for 5 days so far since it was shipped from Hong Kong, and I've read that some packages can be stuck there for weeks, even months. Crossing my fingers this won't happen to me, though. Rule of thumb: always buy from within the U.S. if you can.

[SenorKaffee]

As Kostas said, combined with the focus assist feature it is enough for sure -although I still have to figure out how to make my HV20 zoom in on a particular part of the preview image. XD

[SenorKaffee]

@Krute

I actually have one of those portable HD-ready DVD players with HDMI, bought on eBay somewhen last year.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/studios...7605258755576/

It is indeed useful, but not really a portable solution. I used it maybe four or five times before deciding portability is more important.

[Kostas]

Just a heads up to whom may be interested:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=219222
at this price it is a no brainer for US members!
Note: I am not affiliated in any sense with the seller, just saw this ad while visiting the site.

[jakenbocker]

Nice. It's always a bummer to see a great deal on something you just bought. :/ But hey, my Lilliput 669GL 7" monitor arrived in the mail today, after being stuck in customs for 5 days. Like I mentioned above, it could have been stuck there for much longer, but I'm so happy it wasn't. Will post pictures soon!

[Jim E]

@Krute

I actually have one of those portable HD-ready DVD players with HDMI, bought on eBay somewhen last year.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/studios...7605258755576/

It is indeed useful, but not really a portable solution. I used it maybe four or five times before deciding portability is more important.

Hmmm, to be honest, it doesn't look too bad to me, Senor. Certainly not pocket-sized, but small enough to transport to a shooting site, if you plan to be there for a while.

Do you mind my asking, how much did it cost?

[Jim E]

No such animal...

Yeah, I thought as much.

[JordanBlaze3]

This is probably a stupid question, but on my rig im running a HV40/Handy35, can this monitor flip the image somehow? That would be my initial reason to buy a monitor, cause framing with my image upside down and backwards on a 3" monitor is not to much fun haha. Thanks.

[jakenbocker]

Yes, the 669GL 7" Lilliput does have a flip option, which is great for 35mm adapters. I know, as far as I could tell, flipping a monitor itself upside down is both a hassle, and it looks funny. I consider it a great advantage to have a flip option.

[jakenbocker]

Btw, while this thread is still going strong, I'm wondering if any of you guys who use external monitors such as the Lilliput have been using a visor of some kind on it to block out sunlight and see it more clearly on bright days? I've seen some pictures on some other threads such as the 'Trick Your Rig' thread, but I haven't been able to find much discussion on this, nor much in a Google search. Do you guys DIY? Recommended brands? No visor at all?

[Kostas]

Yes you can flip the image. However, the Handy35 being so modular it is always better to get the flip connector and flip your camera. This avoids you some hassle in post...