Jim Jannard just posted that the release schedule for these two cameras will occur in October. http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=35497
In addition, some more pictures of components are part of the thread
release schedule for Epic and Scarlet in October
Jim Jannard just posted that the release schedule for these two cameras will occur in October. http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=35497
In addition, some more pictures of components are part of the thread
awesome! man those pics are better than softcore porn :-P
"The most important thing is not what's inside the camera, but rather what's in front and behind it"
Just so you're clear. It's the schedule that will be released in October, and that Scarlet isn't the fixed Scarlet.Originally Posted by Bill Strehl
Of which year?
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RDC: Masters of releasing release-dates of release schedules!
...and more computer renders to boot: yep, they're REAL close, I can tell!
And still no real Scarlet clips to test.
Now that I think about it, this reminds me of when the 5D came out. They do an announcement of an announcement to try to take some wind out of the other guys sails and make people reconsider buying the other camera. In this case the 7D.
There, I said it. They hate me at Scarletuser anyway.
sung to the tune of Changes by David Bowie ;-)
I think it more to build more excitement for people who want the Epic or see the Scarlet as an alternative to the current generation of pro camcorders.
And possibly, like those who wanted a Hummer H1 or H2, but could only afford to buy an H3, they'll by the entry level Scarlet with a fixed lens.
From my perspective, Canon was the one that changed the wind direction for potential sales at the low end of the market and blew it in a whole new direction. Maybe in a couple weeks Nikon will come out with a competitive product and further change they direction or speed of the wind.
It seems that the Epic is what anyone who is making money off the "One" is going to want and that the 2/3" Scarlet models will have a much harder time in the marketplace than if they had been launched a year ago.
I do think that the 2/3" models could seriously affect the pro camcorder markets of Sony, Canon, JVC, and Panasonic which is not where I suspect most followers of this forum plan to buy from anyway. If Red ships at least a couple versions of the Scarlet before NAB next year, which I expect they will, I think S, C, J, and P will have a much harder time gaining traction with any new product unless it has a similar or better feature list than a similarly priced Scarlet.
The people who make DOF adapters are the ones who I think are going to see their market diminish to just those people who want DOF on their "old" EX3, etc. Even DOF makers see the impact of the DSLR and are creating other products. Only JAG35 mated with a Canon Hx x0 is at a price point that is lower than a Canon 7D.
I own an HV20 and was thinking about adding another HVx0 until I went to NAB this year and saw Canon 5D's and Red Ones everywhere. If I had to buy something today I would get a 7D and still keep my HV20, but video production isn't my main source of revenue, so I look forward to:
CES in January
PMA in February
and NAB in April
I figure it will be clear by then which company(ies) will have the greatest mindshare in the market and the most aftermarket products. All I can say is this is a great time for anyone just entering the marketplace to get more for their money than in a very long time.
What I wonder, is what the impact of all these changes will have on this forum by the time NAB 2010 comes around and how relevant it will be.
Where did you get that piece of (mis)information? Everything the Red folks have posted suggests fixed lens Scarlet is still in the works.
*Balanced audio hack* *Variable ND filters* *HV20 vs. Film* "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." (George Orwell: Animal Farm)
He means the render posted isnt for the fixed Scarlet. He didnt say its not being made any more.
Panasonic HMC 151E - Canon HV20 - Twoneil 35mm Static Adapter - Nikon f1.4 50mm - Rode Videomic - 2x AudioTechnica ATR35 - Zoom H2 - Steadicam JR - Custom LED Lamp
Ach - most, if not all of the new renders and photos are of Epic, which i slightly bigger than Scarlet but otherwise similar.
*Balanced audio hack* *Variable ND filters* *HV20 vs. Film* "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." (George Orwell: Animal Farm)
Exactly. Hey, if they can put an affordable Scarlet in play by January I'd be all for it. What it said in those posts was the Epic and one version of Scarlet would be offered this year. It didn't say the fixed Scarlet. All announcements subject to change, and all that.
F- Red and jim jackass. Im so sick and tired of hearing about a nonexistant camera by their fanboys. I hope by then canon introduces something that will smoke it. Just for roping us along for two years or how ever long it's been. Im willing to bet that when and if they ever release this damn scarlet, it's going to be so limited that most of us will never even touch it, no matter how much it costs. If you cant make a good product with an hv30 then no sensor of any size will help regardless.
After seeing his quote at the bottom of his profile, I just can't stand this guy.
"We have the right to refuse service to anyone with a bad attitude"
Gimme a break, why wouldn't we have a bad attitude?
Last edited by antman; 2009 September 28th at 21:12.
LOL !!!!! - Red exists! Epic was Just shown at IBC and now we will have a schedule in October when we should be able to buy one. It's been a slow, slow developing camera but it has been from the ground up. Patience is a virtue but she won't always wait. Most people are happy a schedule is being posted soon. Some are OVER It.- I want my Scarlet!!!....when it's ready, thanks.
Actually, it's been insanely fast process, even with the schedule being a few months late. The appearance of slow comes from openness: we have been kept up to date with the progress in a manner that's unheard of in the industry: other companies develop their cameras in total silence, until they are ready to release them.
I prefer the Red way.
*Balanced audio hack* *Variable ND filters* *HV20 vs. Film* "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." (George Orwell: Animal Farm)
Do you think there will be enough to go around for all the people wanting to buy it?
I hope im wrong, but I dont think it's going to be available to the masses for two more years, by then every camera manufacturer, will have already built something just as good or better.
As far as i know, they're going for mass production with Scarlets, unlike with Red One which is more or less hand built. So, i'd assume they will have plenty of cameras to buy pretty quickly.
Well, that didn't happen with Red One, so i'd be a bit sceptical about that......by then every camera manufacturer, will have already built something just as good or better.
*Balanced audio hack* *Variable ND filters* *HV20 vs. Film* "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." (George Orwell: Animal Farm)
Aye. I prefer it too. Being completely kept in the dark gets old quick.
I'm gonna price out an entire Scarlet setup when it comes out -- EVF or monitor, extra battery, RED CF card(s), a couple of lenses (or EOS mount), etc -- and see how much it's actually gonna go for. That's about the only time I'll know if it's worthwhile for me. I'm worried an S35 Scarlet is gonna cost as much as an R1, which is too far out there for me.
Anyone know if the first Scarlet is gonna be the S35 or a 2/3" Cinema brain?
-Rogue5-
Remember though that R1 doesn't come with lenses, batteries, viewfinders etc. either... a full working R1 kit can easily cost around $ 30-40 000.
I'd assume the new accessories will be cheaper than current ones due to mass production, so S35 kit should be much cheaper than a R1 kit. Not "cheap" though...
Nope.Anyone know if the first Scarlet is gonna be the S35 or a 2/3" Cinema brain?
*Balanced audio hack* *Variable ND filters* *HV20 vs. Film* "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." (George Orwell: Animal Farm)
So beautiful those renders and I just got off of reading about Hasselblad's new still digital. 60MP! The world is so beautiful just now. All we need is the gigs to pay for it all
I'm so on it when it comes out. Really, if the specs and hype are true, I don't see myself needing to upgrade this camera for years and years to come...if ever...and i so hope they make a canon fd mount this time, so I can at least carry something over form my current rig..
I believe it's been confirmed in addition to their own mount, RED will offer PL, Nikon and Canon mounts for all the new cameras (four screws to swap mounts).
Sorry for my ignorance, but which Computer interface will Scarlet offers, Firewire??
It records to CF cards.
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