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    I intend to buy a microphone rode ntg2.
    For my HV30. And if the connection ntg2 xlr cable> mini jack can do the trick? Ntg2 is mono? Will have a mini jack mono or stereo? What would give me beachtek? Please reply.

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    Yes, but the NTG-2 has a balanced XLR output. A beachtek would be good to take advantage of the balanced output, although a XLR - TRS cable could work if the line isn't too long. If it's mounted on the camera, then there's no problem.

    Yes, the NTG-2 is mono, as are all other shotgun mics (that I know of). It has a stereo output, however, but it's just the audio duplicated on the left and right audio channels.

    If you don't mind me asking, why the NTG-2 instead of the VideoMic?

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    I need a microphone that you can hold in your hands, put on boompoole.
    And now is also to promote rode. I also buy a microphone for a series of m $ 1.
    Ntg2 unless it should be better looking at the price. And what is the difference between cable xlr> stereo and mono? The headphones when I heard Jack mono one channel? Thanks for the help

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    I am pretty sure the VideoMic can also be used like that. You just need to find a way to mount it. Course, the NTG-2 would save a lot of trouble, but if you won't be using the balanced output (unless you're planning to use a beachtek, which would work just as well with the VideoMic), I don't think it's worth the extra price.

    I haven't tried it before, but because only one channel has audio, the headphones probably will only output one channel. But you don't need to worry about this, just get a normal XLR - TRS cable and you'll be set.

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    And you're happy with ntg?:P

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    Quote Originally Posted by cin3ks View Post
    And you're happy with ntg?:P
    Haha, yes, very much so. The reason I bought the NTG-1 was for the balanced XLR output (the XH A1 has phantom power and XLR inputs, so no problem handling the output from the mic), since I use it on a boom pole a lot.

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    And if the HV30 has to be dedicated beachtek? Or DXA-2s DXA-6A? Does not matter?

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    Excellent mic!

    To get the benefits of the noise/interference immunity of the XLR balanced output of the NTG2, you need to terminate the balanced line properly, before going into the minijack input of the camera.

    The least expensive way to do this is to use a MIT-156.

    The most effective way to interface the NTG2 to the camera is to use a low-noise preamplifier (but, more expensive). Camcorder amps are noisy and the NTG2 only has 15mV/Pa sensitivity. The low-noise preamp will allow you to throttle back the noisy camcorder amps and replace their noisy gain with clean gain for better signal-to-noise performance while recording fine audio detail:
    http://www.juicedlink.com/index_file...dio_mixers.htm


    BTW, the VideoMic is an unbalanced output, so it is much more susceptible to picking up noise/interference, especially on a cable run to a boom operator, than the NTG2. The NTG2 is an excellent mic ...


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    And what are the symptoms of the 156 mit? What are the differences between beachtekiem and juciedlinkiem? And if beachtek may be, for example, is dedicated to the vx?

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    Sorry ... I don't understand most of your questions ...

    The MIT-156 and Beachteks like the ones you mentioned are passive and don't have a low-noise preamp. They will terminate the balanced line from the NTG2 perfectly well. But, they don't have a low-noise preamp like the juicedLink. So, you'll have to crank up the camcorder gain when recording fine audio detail and you'll get lots of hiss.

    The juicedLink with the low-noise preamp will allow you to throttle back the noisy camcorder amp for better signal-to-noise when recording fine audio detail.


    Somebody else on this forum posted these tests a while back using a NTG2 and HV30, comparing a passive device without a low-noise preamp (SignVideo in this case) to the performance using a juicedLink with a low-noise preamp. Put your headphones on and turn up your computer volume so you can monitor the noise level and take a listen to the difference:
    http://patrykrebisz.com/audio_test/


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    Unfortunately not quite understand what you write, I find it difficult to understand because I am 16 years old and I live in Poland so every day I use the Polish rule. The best would be if you wrote the + and - beachtek, juicedlink and xlr cable> mini jack. 156 mit is not available in my country and not very well worth it to me to order from the U.S.. This is a very specific, must be the cable? In my country are the other cables xlr> mini jack mono / stereo and can use the xlr cable and connect the adapter xlr> jack? For example, http://www.djshop.pl/img/3a4k8E7tt92cv1/2598/b/1861. Whether using the adapter xlr juicedlink I have such a sound like a camera with XLR, for example, xh a1? Thanks for your help.

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    I'd buy it if juicedlink only CX211.

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    Does a quick Google Translate help?

    "MIT-156 i Beachteks jak te, które wymienione są pasywne i nie ma niskich przedwzmacniacz hałasu. Będą one zakończyć wyważone z NTG2 doskonale. Ale nie mają one niskiej przedwzmacniacz hałasu jak juicedLink. Więc, będziesz musiał zatracić się zdobyć kamery podczas nagrywania dźwięku grzywny szczegółowo a otrzymasz wiele syczeć. JuicedLink z niskim przedwzmacniacz hałasu pozwoli na przepustnicy powrót hałaśliwym amp kamery dla lepszego sygnału do hałasu podczas nagrywania grzywny audio szczegółów. Ktoś na tym forum wysłana tych badań, podczas gdy z powrotem przy użyciu NTG2 i HV30, porównując pasywne urządzenia bez niskich szumów przedwzmacniacza (SignVideo w tym przypadku) do działania przy użyciu juicedLink o niskich przedwzmacniacz hałasu. Umieść na słuchawki i włącz się głośność komputera, dzięki czemu można monitorować poziom hałasu i podejmowania słuchać różnicą :
    http://patrykrebisz.com/audio_test/"

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    Unfortunately, not exactly

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    Heh, sorry, technical stuff like this is generally very hard for some free software to translate...

    I'll try to explain. RERozak says that the MIT-156 and Beachtek are "passive", which means they don't have a "low-noise preamp". A low-noise preamp allows you to lower the gain on your camcorder (basically how much it makes the sound louder) and use your low-noise preamp instead. This records a cleaner signal with less of that "hisssssssing" sound. Because the MIT-156 and Beachtek don't have this, the juicedLink should be a better choice.

    Just do what RERozak said and use the juicedLink. And yes, that converter should work.

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