Tape changing question ?
hey guys i have a noob question
i use canon hv40
if i buy a dv tape for my cam and use every time, but then i buy the same tape and the company, and everything is the the same, also the type and the same version but the difference is the time, like the one i use is 80 mins the one i bought is 60, will that cause a problem or damage to my camera ? please tell me
thanx
Please read the FAQ and always do a search before posting a question. This Sticky where your post was moved to answers all your questions and could have been found by just looking through the forum or doing a search. I suggest you read it.
JVC Tapes
Even though it should make no difference at all because of the digital standard. I choose to stick with JVC tapes as JVC invented the HDV standard.
Which just gives me piece of mind knowing that they don't want a bad rep for the HDV format so the tapes should work flawlessly from a PR standpoint.
My 2 cents. Oh and i just purchased a HV40 so i'll be on this forum a bit from now on.
Whew, so I actually read this entire thread to figure out which tape to use and decided on the Panasonic AMQ based on the possibility of less drop outs. If any newbies are shopping for this like me, I just wanted to add that the AY-DVM63AMQ (old version) has been replaced by the AY-HDVM63AMQ (new version). The model number is nearly identical so please be careful.
With all the talk about not switching brands and tapes without cleaning, I just wanted to let people that didn't know that is may be wiser to buy the AY-HDVM63AMQ (new version) since they will be more readily available in the long run compared to the AY-DVM63AMQ (old version) which are still on the market at some retailers.
Last edited by greenboy; 2009 September 25th at 20:42. Reason: Clarification
Anyone had any experience with Sony "Excellence" range?
I have a whole drawerful of 'em (new), and my HV40 has arrived today, so was hoping I could use them. Obviously, I'd stick to them, and not mix-n-match with other brands.
The Sony I have all start DVM60EX, but end up differently; I have examples of:
EXM
EXM2
EXM3
EX3
EXML
I know people here like the Panny's, but with so many Sony tapes sitting here, I'm torn...
anyone have good/bad tales to report with the Sony EX? I've read this whole thread, but not seen a lot of mention of the EX (as opposed to the PR).
thanks much indeed.
[I bought these tapes over the last few years for use with my old Sony PC109, which has today been replaced by the HV40]
It looks like Costco is no longer carrying TDK's. I guess I'll be joining the masses under the Panny tent. FWIW, the TDK's have been awesome. I've re-used tapes up to ten times to shoot hockey (note: NON-CRITICAL) without any dropouts at all.
As far as I can see, the new version AY-HDVM63AMQ is not available here in the UK. We have only AY-DVM63AMQ.Originally Posted by greenboy
CDMackay -
I used to use the Sony Premium tapes only in my HV20 without any problems since they were cheap and available from here to Tierra del Fuego. I only use tapes once and had NEVER experienced any noticable dropouts... and since these are much more apparent in HDV footage than in DV, I DID notice.
But after a hard trip though South America where the camera took a LOT of abuse (grabbed and dropped during a mugging attempt; lots of different climates and humidty; heat and cold; packed too loose or too tightly in bags, that kind of thing) I started seeing drops on nearly every tape. Now this is not a very scientific finding, but I decided it was a good time to switch to cheaper and more often available (now) Panasonic tapes and after a good head cleaning I am back to fairly dropout-less tapes.
Then again, I'm using the camera less these days too!
And I know, the Excellence are supposed to be a LOT better than the Premiums and I used to do all my transfer work on the Excellence tapes. So I suppose I would recommend using your stock until you run out, transfering whatever you need onto hard drives and then giving the heads a good cleaning and then deciding if you can get (and afford) to continue using the Sonys or switch to cheaper Panasonics.
Worked for me so far. Hope it helps.
Simple answer needed... just to be 100% clear
I've read the first few pages of this thread and there are some long answers to some of the questions & after reading several different posts, it gets kinda confusing.
Can someone please help me. Greatly appreciated.
I'm recording a workshop offline that I'm going to either put online and/or put them on DVD's.
Here's my question based on what I've read on here just to be clear: I have an HV30.
If I just use a regular MiniDV tapes, will I get the same quality as opposed to using HDV?
Just wanna be 100% clear. Sorry for the redundancy.
Thanks!
Yes.
No worries. Welcome to the forum.
thanks much, appreciated.
thanks a ton Frank! gonna save me some money!!
I'm sorry, but I can't believe that was what you were confused about by reading this thread. The one thing that comes across very clearly is that, no, you do not have to use HD tapes since all you're doing is recording 1s and 0s. While there are some quality issues between tapes and brands they are related to dropouts and not to any picture quality differences in actual recordings. Thanks for posting to an existing thread and not starting a new one. Welcome to the forum.
I used a lot of different tapes back when i shot home video with my hi8 cam. The tapes that looked the worse now, with the most bleeding, noise and dropouts, are the JVC tapes..[/QUOTE]
When I used to use DV, I used a lot of JVC tapes because they were the cheapest. My DV tapes with the most dropouts are...JVC!
When I got my Sony HC3 cam (HDV) I put in a brand new JVC tape and got tons of dropouts, the four minute test footage was unwatchable. I still have some brand new JVC DV tapes, but I'll never use them in my Canon HV40.
In my experience, JVC tapes are the worst.After the seeing the dropouts from JVC, I tried a Sony premium DV tape- not a single dropout. I have maybe 80 HDV tapes on Sony Premium (I buy in bulk) and I can count on one hand the total number of dropouts I have seen.FWIW, the best looking of my HI8 tapes, the ones rivaling DV in pq, were made on either Sony metal evaporated tape, or TDK metal evaporated tape. The best of the regular Hi8 tape might have been 3m, but they got out of the tape biz mid 90's.
Mixing Panasonic DVM60 MiniDV with Fuji DVM60 MiniDV
Do I need to run a dry cleaner tape before switching tapes?
Will there be problems if I don't?
Maybe, but your forum experience will get worse if you don't read the FAQ and keep starting redundant threads easily answered by reading a Sticky.
Anyone know where i can get some sony tapes or panisonic tapes for cheap?
Looking to get them shipped in 5 days. Is tapestockonline.com legit?
I have Panasonic tapes for sell that I can ship them out to you right away on monday morning.
Yep, I order there every time I need tapes...probably ordered nearly 30 tapes from there so far. They're really fast shipping and quality stuff. I get their FujiFilm MiniDV tapes - really cheap, but great quality.
Are these panasonic tapes any good?
http://www.tapestockonline.com/pan63minprof.html
They are only $2.99 each. I have been using Sony cheap tapes for years, but I have started seeing some drop outs on my tapes, on both my HC3 and my HV40, so I am starting to wonder if quality is taking a down turn where they are made (in Mexico, I think).
I've several questions, because I'm new... and seem I did already 3 errors touching my HV40:
1. I bought one HDV Sony tape and one Panasonic HDV, because they were the best as told from my uncle.
I first used the Panasonic and then the Sony.
2. In the Panasonic I first made some minutes tape in HDV and then in DV. 2nd error. Then I recorded again but only in HDV.
Now what to do? in my camera I've the SONY HDV tape.
What I would to do is to use in the future only Panasonic just because are cheaper of some cents of Sony and I've heard to speak well about and "dry" I've heard.
However in EBAY UK is full of Sony HDV tapes while Panasonic are very hard to find. This make me afraid. Worth to use the Panasonic or I can work fine with
the Sony? And Sony now is a "dry" sort of, or still "wet" that I see less preferred by the forum?
I also need to buy my first tape to clean the head, in which case which brand the buy the panasonic is ok?
So I can switch definetively to Panasonic.
And last question, can I've damaged the Camera using the 2 brands? Or I can only damage the tape?
Last edited by irino; 2009 November 21st at 18:24.
New Info From Sony
Sony just sent me a copy of this white paper which has just been published. It addresses the wet/dry lubricant issue. Some good information in here.
Michael
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I've used JVC, Panasonic Pro tapes, Sony and Fujitsu.
The JVC tapes both pro and not pro have given me tons of dropouts and I'll avoid them in the future.
Panasonic 63 minute pro tapes work great even when magnetically erased and reused.
Sony tapes worked flawlessly as well and are readily available at walmart and the like.
Fujitsu the jury is still out because I've used 3 of them so far.
I searched extensively for this info, but found everything but the one question I have. Is there a way to erase a tape without having to record over it to erase what you have on the tape? I have a new cam, new to this, and I’m experimenting. Some things currently on the tape are pure junk, and some are keepers. Once I transfer to the computer, I no longer want this stuff on the tape. Is the only way to erase a tape recording over it? The cam is an HV30.
Unfortunately, you will have to record it over to erase the previous recorded content.
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