http://www.dpreview.com/news/0905/09...iifirmware.asp
* Full aperture selection
* ISO speed: Auto, 100 – 6400 and H1
* Shutter speed: 1/30th – 1/4000th second
Official Canon Firmware: 5D MkII Firmware Update
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0905/09...iifirmware.asp
* Full aperture selection
* ISO speed: Auto, 100 – 6400 and H1
* Shutter speed: 1/30th – 1/4000th second
I would you say this is aimed at Red's Epic? lol..
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Cool, way to go Canon!
Though there still isn't 24p, people have very well proven that you can make very good 24p through programs like Twixtor or After Effects.
Well, it looks like I may be jumping for the 5D Mark 2. Now I just gotta raise a couple grand.
Uhmm...you guys know anyone who needs a wedding videographer?
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Yes this definitely changes the game. I just might bite unless Panny decides to respond. I still think i'ts funny they are doing this during the same time as Panny's GH-1 US debut. Panasonic is bound to lose a heap load of potential customers (like me) due to this. So far the audio has been hacked by an independent hacker for this puppy and now this? It's just a matter of time now for a 24p hack.
No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life...Albert Einstein
Oh wow. This changes so many things. Holy $%*¡.
How much's the 5d mkii again?
Too much.
No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life...Albert Einstein
The lack of 24p is still troublesome, because these tools don't make the same job as true 24p. For those who shoot short movies, this is bothersome. For people like me and Charlie McCarthy over at vimeo who shoot abstract videos, it is not a problem. 30p is fine. Although I would still prefer 29.97 instead of 30.
24p 24p 24p
goddamnit, just when i was decided on a pair of gh1's.
i lack the time and attention span to keep up with this back and forth trickling out of easy-to-implement technology. why couldn't canon have just included true, no pulldown-bullshit 24p and been done with it? it would have pounded a definitive nail into gh1's coffin.
this is only a half victory when a full one would have been so effortless. the constant technological kneecapping/crippling/sabotaging and apparent collusion between these companies disgusts me. i wish there was an upstart rebel who actually treated us with respect and gave us the product we wanted without making us jump through ridiculous, time consuming hoops to make it behave as it plainly could have from the onset. i thought RED was such a company, but the scarlet remains nothing but a distant mirage...
the only reason we don't have the camera we all want yet, is greed. we are nothing more than a slow-milked cow who MOOOOOS its gratitude when the farmer momentarily uses two hands instead of one.
pathetic.
LOLOriginally Posted by Ian-T
I would you say this is aimed at Red's Epic? lol..
Yeah, I really dislike how they're up-playing the "motion picture with movie quality" aspect of the firmware update when it doesn't have 24p (thats 23.976, not 24 flat)... And, yeah, I'm very frustrated with the lack of real/necessary framerate (24/30, and 60 would be nice).
This definitely doesn't make the GH1 less substantial... it just makes parting with the cash harder. If the 5DmkII had 24, it would be hands down the weapon of choice... as it stands, being able to buy TWO 24fps capable GH1s for the price of one 5DmkII is the most jagged of pills to swallow. The 5DmkII has much better low-light, video quality/codec, sensor-size, and stills... but the framerate is wrong (which to some makes it completely unusable for movie making) and did I mention you can get TWO GH1s for the same price? On the flip, the GH1's codec is lacking and lens compatibility is an issue.
...Before this announcement I was gonna wait to see what the video divisions of these companies (Canon and Pana) were gonna announce before buying (expecting them to announce sooner rather than later). After this announcement, it looks like I'll still be waiting. You can't make me part with my money by flashing a few lights in front of my eyes and claiming it's everything I need...
That said, this puts the 5D2 one step closer to being what it should have been when it launched.
-Rogue5-
This gets me excited to see how Panasonic might respond (though they don't have to do much with the GH1 already being half the price of the 5D.
the gh1 can't really compete with the 5d the 17mbps really shows on the videos you see in vimeo, with this update people can use all the fancy canon lenses and don't have to use a cheap nikon to canon lens converter ring just got to earn enough money for a 5d
the 5d still can't autofocus in video though right? I realize this is less substantial when it comes to indies and shorts - but for everyday use, family stuff for instance, it'd make the 5d quite troublesome for less -set up- scenes no?
(my motivation is that I wanna do a bit of this, and a bit of that...)
It has autofocus while filming not very good though.
Well, yeah, but how many will use the 5D MKII for "family stuff"?
Also, slap a wide angle lens on there (I use a $165 Phoenix 19-35mm lens which actually isn't half-bad), get that aperture small enough, and pretty much everything past 3m should be in focus anyway.
This works only if there's enough light of course!
No AF was the sole reason I sold my 5D2.For my family videos AF was what lacks when trying to film little kids running around. Full manual control will be awesome.
I hope that the 60D will be anounced with full manual control.
HD videos http://www.vimeo.com/lucasberg
It appears the 5d really shoots video at 29.97fps, but the file header mistakenly identifies it as 30fps.
Magic Lantern firmware 0.1.4 and Rode SVM music test - Shot on the Canon 5D MKII - http://www.vimeo.com/5489294
How bad is Autofocusing. Like really really bad? I still think it could be somehow managable especially with overriding what AF thinks by focusing manually with certain lenses. Than AF can tune in the details..
There's nothing to say that Panasonic won't release a firmware upgrade that bumps the bit rate up.
although it only takes cinema tools a fraction of a second to conform a clip from 30.00 to 29.97, and you can batch conform and do all your clips at once.
oneearth, please don't mess with my high blood pressure. Nobody says here about exporting a 30p clip to 24p. I can do that even with Movie Maker on Windows. The point is to shoot in 24p, because it LOOKS different when the sensor/shutter speed themselves are set to that mode. No amount of exporting in 24p can achieve this, no matter the "specialized tools" that supposedly "emulate that look". That's all fakery.
Ok....this was the funniest line I've read all day.
No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life...Albert Einstein
I somewhat surprised that the firmware supposedly doesn't have 25p, but since that can be done in post, it's not a catastrophe. With manual control added, it's going to be even harder to find a 5d2 body in stock. Canon truly listened to all the complaints. My hat is off to them for being responsive, when they could have just come out with a 5D3 or a 1D4.
I still stand by my prediction of a Canon full frame video camera (not a DSLR hybrid form factor) to be out within the year in the $8-10K US range. It will look and feel like a Sony EX-3, take Canon EOS glass, do 24p/25p and possibly even be able to shoot RAW and/or at higher resolutions than 1080i. The 5D2 is proof of concept.
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