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    Default Ikan v5600 - The Review

    Hi Everyone,

    I have promising this for a while and so here it is.
    Please note that I am in the UK, so my review relates to the PAL system.

    http://www.ikancorp.com/pages/monitors/V5600/index.html

    I was offered one of the new v5600 to test on PAL systems as the company wanted to make sure that it worked over here. First and foremost, it works great.

    I have tested the unit with a few different cameras using the HDMI and YUV component inputs (which is fed via a USB port on the back).

    Obviously the HDMI input gives a sharper image, due to the added resolution, but later on I will discuss why the YUV input is also useful.

    Specs:

    Diagonal 5.6" TFT - LCD
    Resolution: 1024 x 600
    LCD Brightness: 165cd/m2
    Contrast Ratio: 200:1
    Viewing angles: 80/80(R/L), 55/55(U/L)
    Operating Volts: DC 12-24V
    Dimension: 5.75 ”x4.625”x0.82”
    Weight (lbs) 0.7





    This monitor is small and very light. In fact I was so suprised at its weight I found myself double checking the model number on the back to make sure they had sent me the right one!

    The initial look around it shows a matte screen which I prefer to glossy, but a slightly cheap feel to the build quality. I suspect if it was dropped without any protection on it then it would be it's last day.

    Ikan do sell a rather nice looking hood for this monitor though, which would definately make me feel better about handling it.

    Also, the screen is very easy to mark with finger prints and quite hard to clean.

    I did notice that the metal mounting thread on the bottom inside was a little misalligned with the hole in the plastic casing, meaning the first few times I put it on a screw thread a small amount of plastic came of the housing. Nothing major though.

    The image of on the screen is pretty damn clear. I have been using with my twoneil for a week now and been able to accurately pull focus with * no real problems. (see further down for issues)

    The image isnt quite as crisp as i thought it would be, but its not soft in any way. It just seems a little smooth. Its a hard one to explain.
    It's completely useable, lets just leave it at that.



    When you plug the monitor into a power source the LED will light up red to let you know it has power. When you turn the monitor on the red led turns green.

    When I turned on the monitor the first time it was defaulted to YPbPr (denoted by red letters in the top left of the screen). You can toggle through the modes with the input button.

    The modes are:
    AV
    YPbPr
    HDMI

    When in HDMI mode the actual image takes about 2 seconds or so to appear. This worried me at first as this lead me to believe that it would not work with PAL, however the image appeared leaving a big smile on my face.

    If there is no input signal the monitor will display a blue idle screen with the Ikan logo indefinately. There does not appear to be a power saving option in the menu either. In fact there are no menu options when in the idle screen.



    The menu only serves to change image characteristics.

    In HDMI you can adjust (defaults in brackets):
    Brightness (50%)
    Contrast (50%)
    Saturation (50%)
    Language (English)
    Reset
    Exit

    In YPbPr your menu options are:
    Brightness (50%)
    Contrast (50%)
    Saturation (50%)
    Sharpness (0%)
    Language (English)
    Red (50%)
    Green (50%)
    Blue (50%)
    Reset
    Exit

    I could list AV, but who is really going to be using this monitor in AV mode?

    I found the best settings to get a decent from the HDMI mode image is:
    Brightness (58%)
    Contrast (76%)
    Saturation (50%)

    N.B. Leaving the menu on the Reset option for more than a few seconds causes the Reset to occur. This took me a few times to figure out how to do when I assumed by toggling reset and pressing one of the directional buttons would activate I finally stumbled across the answer by being a bit slow and not pressing anything.

    Something I am VERY happy about is the fact that the monitor shows ABSOLUTELY NO overscan.



    The guide markers show the edge where overscan would occur and an action safe area too. Great stuff.



    From looking at the v5600 side by side with my desktop monitor there are colour differences, but this is presumably due to the fact that ikan have set the monitor up in NTSC colours. Also, my desktop monitor has not been calibrated.

    As for using the monitor, I found that its about as bright as the HV20's screen when used in partial cloud. *When in direct sunshine its quite problematic to view, so the hood would be a requirement for that sort of weather, and indoors its absolutely fine.



    On the whole I am happy with little little monitor, as I require a lightweight unit that will allow me to hit my critical focus. Once I have the hood I will happier still.

    The downsides that I would like to see improvements on is for the next model to have a brighter screen, with options to change the individual colour settings for Red Green and Blue on the HDMI mode and or the overall colour temperature.

    For this test I powered the monitor using an Anypower AB-N12v power pack, which ran the monitor for about 4-5 hours constantly. I got the power pack from the very nice people at DogCam:

    12v 8400mah



    The battery cost about £60 with UK delivery and VAT, which is a bargain in my book considering how light and small it is. The batterys output is a USB port, which you use a USB to DC jack. Two are supplied of varying sizes. As a bonus, the battery comes with it's own charger that supplies 8.4v, which is what the HV cams use, meaning I now have another charger!

    Here is a link to download the original images in a zip file.
    The filesize is 23mb.

    Hope this helps. Questions expected.

    Rumple.
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    27 views and no responses?
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    Nice review. The monitor looks very interesting especially condesidering it's small size and high resultion. The overscan feature is very helpful as well. I don't like it when you don't see the whole frame and afterwards you realize you didn't zoom in enough on the ground glass or other something else is in the edge of the frame. Does this monitor has a flip function for 35mm adapters? I didn't find an information like this... :-( Otherwise I wouldn't know how to mount it.
    I also like your power supply, nice find. 4-5 hours is great.

    Unfortunately out of my price range. Perhaps as a future upgrade. For now I'm still satisfied with my Sony DVD Player although it doesn't feature a few functions I'd like to have. So, if I have the money left for a new monitor, this looks like a great deal.

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    Great review of that monitor! Looks like a great LCD, although the price is a little high. Obviously that's what they go for, but hopefully the price goes down. SmallHD is supposed to come out with a monitor with similar specs, which I'm sure will be a great monitor as well.

    Once again, thanks for the review!

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    The lack of overscan is a god send. You're right, not zooming in enough is a pain and so I used to zoom in a bit extra to make sure, meaning my wide angle wasn't really getting as much as it should. This feature really did make do a jig!

    It doesnt have a flip function unfortunately. I will suggest this to Ikan though...

    The price is a fair amount i'll admit, but it competes well with the SmallHD DP1 in terms of price, alas, it it only had the calibration options the DP1 will have.

    I'd sure like to try these out side by side!

    As for the power pack I am so happy with it that I am getting another one to help power my HV20. Am having to use a DC to DC convertor to knock the power down, but thanks to a forum member I now have one of those. Just need the time to go to Maplins to get a different plug socket for it, as typically it does not fit!
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    Nothing says thanks like clicking on a members reputation button...



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    Great review; thanks for taking the time.
    Just saw they even list NTSC on the label. Gosh, I can't stand such narrow mindedness....

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    Well, to be fair, they didnt know it would definately work on PAL.
    And thankfully for me, the other company they sent a unit to didnt get back to them before the big video event in Las Vegas.

    I then managed to be in the right place at the right time to get sent one.
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    Well, that's cool!

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    I still have to pay for it, but not what you mere motals will have to.
    ^_^

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    Default Thank you kindly

    Rumple,

    Great review with good information! Thank you for taking the time to do this review. As you get more experience with the unit, feel free to update us, especially on an problem areas.

    Best regards.

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    Will do! I'll share pictures again when I get the hood for this beast.
    Also, hopefully the sun will come out and I'll be able to test more hardily then too.
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    Very in-depth, fantastic review Rumple. I've been wondering about this monitor for a while and you've answered a lot of questions I had. Cheers.

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    No probs, if you think of any more give me a shout.
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    Thanks loads for the excellent review.

    Please may I ask: can you easily mount the monitor upside down for use with a 35mm adapter without an optical flip?

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    If you had an articulating arm, or something similar I guess so, but the only mounting point is on the bottom as mentioned...

    I have flipped my cam so it wasn't an issue for me.
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    Just looking around for monitor. Seems good, but the brightness and contrast ratio lets it down, especially as a higher-end solution.

    The much cheaper, and only slightly lower res alternative are the 7" 800x480 screens often used for carputers (not to be confused with the crappy 480x234 res versions that go as general AV screens).

    Of course these tend to have only VGA and AV inputs, but maybe you could use a component or HDMI -> VGA cable? And they're usually brighter/better contrast ratio.
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    I am very tempted to sell it for a brighter monitor, but it is very very light and also its nice that once you shoot something you are pleasantly suprised by the footage you thought was "ok", which is in fact "really quite nice".

    Haha.

    One thing I will remark on is that there is NO overscan which is pretty rare.
    But having used it for a time I noticed that there is some non-perminant screen burn. I noticed when leaving on the exposure setting for a time and then turning it off. The ghost of the settings dissappeared slowly after about 1 min.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumple View Post
    I am very tempted to sell it for a brighter monitor, but it is very very light and also its nice that once you shoot something you are pleasantly suprised by the footage you thought was "ok", which is in fact "really quite nice".
    The smaller size does sound good. I'm looking to use a couple of monitors for previewing not only HD but 3D (with two cameras). There are some interesting 4:3 3.5" screens if you want to go real cheap and don't mind getting a high-ish quality AV preview. Well, most of those types screens are also 480x234, but there are some on Ebay that claim to be 640x480. If true (it may be BS), and assuming they can show a 16:9 picture properly, then you'd still get a decent AV preview in a very small package, and light on batteries too.

    One thing I will remark on is that there is NO overscan which is pretty rare.
    Right, something to watch out for.

    But having used it for a time I noticed that there is some non-perminant screen burn. I noticed when leaving on the exposure setting for a time and then turning it off. The ghost of the settings dissappeared slowly after about 1 min.
    Ah, actually that might be a backlight-saving feature. I have the same on a couple of 19" screens - they have an option to slowly fade down the backlight over some time, before actually turning it off properly. In the dark you can see the light bleeding through the black screen. Sounds like it's similar on yours, only the screen doesn't clear the last image first.
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    You're a fountain of knowledge GL.
    I've alwys wanted to ask: why _gl? What does it mean??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumple View Post
    You're a fountain of knowledge GL.
    Sometimes .

    I've alwys wanted to ask: why _gl? What does it mean??
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    Thank-you Rumple, for the in-depth review. Definitely worth consideration if/when the prices comes down! I currently have a much lower resolution 7" from ebay that isn't quite doing the trick with my Twoneil.

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    One of the other members is selling one:
    http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?p=252838

    $500 USD
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