24P Workflow for FCP!

[svar]

Thanks
We PAL users are so lucky sometimes

[johnnyendeavour]

so what happens if an NTSC guy like me hooks up with two PAL hv20 guys here in Minsk at a big rock concert? and want to put our footage together... in FCP 6 - is this a nightmare to be avoided or what can I do to have the footage work together ? Any advice greatly appreciated!

[mackidbrendan]

so i have some 24p footage i shot on my HV30 the other day and i followed these steps. when i go to look at the new .mov files that JES created they are all 50% of the original size? is that suspose to happen? i thought they would be the same size...

[localstreethero]

Is this really all it takes to remove pull down? I just did some test footage and followed the step by step and didn't run into any troubles. I think the only thing was when i put the clip with the "proj" on the timeline it said i had to change the sequence settings. but looking at the step by step, i think i forgot to change the new sequence. any who, this isn't as bad as I thought it would be nor as bad as other members have complained about. I read someone saying they're not going to use 24p/PF24 until FCP can remove pull down with a click of a button. lazy i guess.

Anyways, I would like to thank the OP for this great and extremely easy steb-by-step. THANK YOU.

[The Crowing]

My problem is i still have to render every clip i drag into the timeline even after following this workflow. What is the deal!!!!

[localstreethero]

when following this guideline, do you have to de-interlaced when you upload to vimeo? or is it already done?

[dearcatastrophe]

I read someone saying they're not going to use 24p/PF24 until FCP can remove pull down with a click of a button. lazy i guess.

fcp can remove pulldown with the click of a button IF the camera sets flags for pulldown removal. canon has been pretty adamant that the consumer line won't include this helpful ability, it's in the pro range. canon, not apple needs to step up to the plate on this one.

but honestly, it is a simple process to remove pulldown.

[iThinkergoiMac]

canon, not apple needs to step up to the plate on this one.

True. But with FCS2, you can essentially do it with one or two clicks.

[localstreethero]

Removing pull down really is only a few clicks. I feel like i'm doing something wrong because its so easy. and I answered my own question about de interlacing by watching the video.

[Hottate]

Did you ever have any problems with jes because i am...it doesnt seem to be finding the cadence on certain clips. Do i need to trim those clips to the pppii at the start? cause i was really excited after i got the 24p with jes but then on certain clips it will just sit and never finish. man i wish it would work every time i dont get it..

I'm getting this cadence error as well. any help? Maybe a footage recapture perhaps?

[iThinkergoiMac]

I'm getting this cadence error as well. any help? Maybe a footage recapture perhaps?

Have you checked the detect cadence breaks option?

[Hottate]

Have you checked the detect cadence breaks option?

that just seems to be detecting them, but not doing anything about it.
should i click, "make reference movies" or "suppress interlaced scene changes"?

[Hottate]

Seems to keep getting hung up on the last frame. I keep hitting "resume" but. to no avail.
Haven't been able to successfully do this to one single clip yet! For a consumer camera, this sure is a pain in the ass.

[iThinkergoiMac]

Seems to keep getting hung up on the last frame. I keep hitting "resume" but. to no avail.
Haven't been able to successfully do this to one single clip yet! For a consumer camera, this sure is a pain in the ass.

Weird, I haven't run into this issue at all. You don't need the reference movie option or the suppress option. Try trashing the JES prefs, running a permissions repair, and even reinstalling JES or updating to the latest version (which requires Leopard, if you don't have it, stick with the 2nd latest version).

[localstreethero]

Just curious, how did you capture your footage from tape to FCP?

[iThinkergoiMac]

Just curious, how did you capture your footage from tape to FCP?

I'm assuming this is a general question. For me, I just use the capture now and let it capture everything, then delete what I don't want. Since FCP makes a new clip for every start/stop this is far more efficient for me than some sort of log and capture or batch capture. It helps that whenever I shoot videos, I shoot with this in mind, so I use the start/stop button a lot.

[yahdood]

Why do you capture in 60i when you're trying to capture 24p footage?

[cgbier]

HV40 can be captured in 24p, the older models have their 24p wrapped into 60i. Therefore, you'll have to capture 60i and do the pulldown thingie in Compressor.

[yahdood]

HV40 can be captured in 24p, the older models have their 24p wrapped into 60i. Therefore, you'll have to capture 60i and do the pulldown thingie in Compressor.

Or if I don't have Compressor, by using JES?

[cgbier]

Use JES, but don't forget that FCP is the only Apple software that can work with 24p without tricks.

[yahdood]

Use JES, but don't forget that FCP is the only Apple software that can work with 24p without tricks.

I have FCP, just not Compressor.

[HueyNRolf]

Compressor comes with FCP, maybe you need to install it from the DVDs.

[iThinkergoiMac]

I believe Compressor installs from the same DVD as FCP, and installs by default unless you actively turned that option off.

[Maxwell]

So I imported some footage in FCP. Its not separating every shot or scene I shot. It imports every thing into one thing.

[cgbier]

Max: Capture settings???

Man, one could think you just joined here yesterday