24P Project Preset for Premiere Pro CS2 / Element

[John]

I need some help.

After recording some scenes, i capture it on adobe premiere elements 4, then after it shows me my footage in the project box and there its says my fps is 29.97fps even though i record in 24p mode. Then i right click to my footage in project box and change the interpret footage to 24fps but what hapens after i cant fix, which my audio gets slower. What should i do Please advice.

If you want to edit 24P with Premiere Pro 2 or CS3, you can download the preset from adobe.com

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloa...jsp?ftpID=3408

[Lunchbox]

You need to read the FAQ to understand more about Pulldown and how to remove pulldown. Before doing so, your PF24 footage is 29.97 fps 60i video.

http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=3058

[John]

Also i am sorry for posting twice or more, its just that you guys know so much and i dont understand much and i get really frustrated. I almost feel like flying to LA meet with you and learn some stuff.

You need to read the FAQ to understand more about Pulldown and how to remove pulldown. Before doing so, your PF24 footage is 29.97 fps 60i video.

http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=3058

[Lunchbox]

What's stopping ya?

Where in California you are in?

[John]

I really would love to come out there and maybe spend a day with you and learn all of these pulldown, and smooth playback etc.. stuff. Or even if you are thinking about a mini vacation comon on down here. Either way. This will save me from my frustration.


Thanks,

What's stopping ya?

Where in California you are in?

[Lunchbox]

What about not to shoot 24p so you can avoid dealing with pulldown for the moment. Just shoot 60i and 30p. once you can master a little bitter of the camera and video editing, then you can tackle 24p. That might be a better approach.

I'm actually heading to San Francisco next weekend to shoot a wedding.

[John]

What about not to shoot 24p so you can avoid dealing with pulldown for the moment. Just shoot 60i and 30p. once you can master a little bitter of the camera and video editing, then you can tackle 24p. That might be a better approach.

I'm actually heading to San Francisco next weekend to shoot a wedding.

Shooting in 30p is that going to give me a film look or no? I would love to give that film look, like most people in this forum, and thats pretty cool you will be in SF to shoot a wedding, will you have extra time in your hand? To show me couple of things, to push me little more ahead. If you can that will be freaking awesome. If not its cool.


John,

[Lunchbox]

You can judge it yourself if 30p give you the film look or not. I am happy with it. I shoot all my weddings in 30P. Don't have to deal with pulldown and the stutering during panning. What you should do is to forget about 24p. Go shoot some video in 60i and 30p for fun. Then start playing with them. Tackle 24p later on.

Would you like to be my assistant on Sat Nov 11? I can't pay you but I can buy you meal. PM or email me if you are interested.

[John]

You can judge it yourself if 30p give you the film look or not. I am happy with it. I shoot all my weddings in 30P. Don't have to deal with pulldown and the stutering during panning. What you should do is to forget about 24p. Go shoot some video in 60i and 30p for fun. Then start playing with them. Tackle 24p later on.

Would you like to be my assistant on Sat Nov 11? I can't pay you but I can buy you meal. PM or email me if you are interested.

As far as i know my wife got something going on that saturday for me, that would of been an great experience for me. Thanks for the offer. And ill try 30p first like you said and maybe try to give film look with color grading or something. Good luck, if anything changes, ill put a post here again.

[daveman123]

How do I start a new project with this preset in CS4?

[kaydawgy]

"For the 24p without pulldown removed, you can edit using HDV60i preset. If you have pulldown removed, then you will need a HDV project preset with 24fps timeline. This preset download will work with HV20 24p video with pulldown removed."

I have downloaded the Canon 24p preset to CS3. When I captured my 24p footage with PP CS3, I used that Canon preset for my project and to placed it on the timeline. I got the redbar above it so I rendered it. Took a long time. After wards, I got absolute smooth playback. No jerkiness, interlacing and even checked to see if EACH frame was unique one by one. It was. Wouldn't this mean that I wouldn't need to remove the pulldown?

[Lunchbox]

CS3 also include the 24p preset. No need to download the preset which is made for CS2.

If you didn't remove pulldown, the video is 60i. That might explain why you hae a red rendering line in the timeline. The video won't be jerky anyway. You only will experience some ghosting frames in high motion scene.

[seohadczy]

I tried installing the additional thing, but I think I did it wrong. Could somebody please tell me what the editing presets should be after it is installed? Here is what I see in the HDV section.

HDV 1080i25 (50i)
HDV 1080i30 (60i)
HDV 1080p25
HDV 1080p30
HDV 720p25
HDV 720p30

What ones am I missing? I don't see any for 24 frames per second.

[Lunchbox]

You didn't install it right. There should be a folder for Canon HDV presets.

Anyway, if you are using CS3, you should get the latest update from adobe.com. The presets will be included in the updates.

[vrx12]

If anyone's using Adobe Premiere Elements 8, there's a user-patch to add custom editing-presets for 24p/50p/60p. It's only been tested on the Windows version.

Download it from here: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/605768?tstart=0

[rakunus]

So , for HDV 1080p HV20 PAL footage, 1080 25p is a better Premiere Preset than 1080 50i and therefore the best ?

http://grab.by/4unZ



I'm confused becuse I read somewhere that HV20's 25p is just a marketing trick and not a true 25p...

[Lunchbox]

There isn't one better than the other. It all depends on what footage you shot. With your HV cam, if you shot 50i, then you need to use 1080i50. If you shoot Pf25, you can use either one.

[rakunus]

Either one, but p25 is better if I prefer de-interlaced image, right?

[Lunchbox]

NO

If you shoot interlace, use an interlaced timeline preset. If you shoot progressive, use a progressive timeline. However, for HV cam's progressive mode, you can use either interlace or progressive timeline.

[rakunus]

Don't worry, I shot in progressive as well.
Thanks for the swift replies!

[ThreeDogMoon]

Ok guys, I am still a little confused. I have an HV30 and use Premiere CS4.

Below are the 3 settings there are that I have used.

HDV 1080i30 (60i)
HDV 1080p24
HDV 1080p30

Questions:

1. If I shoot in 24 P mode, then do pulldown removal...is it then right to use the HDV 1080p24 setting? Initially the recording is in 60i, but after pulldown removal it is in 24p, yes? (progressive)

2. Shooting in HDV mode, would the HDV 1080i30 (60i) project setting be the correct one to use? The manual states this in an interlaced mode.

3. Shooting in HDV30 it records in interlaced mode but with a progressive frame rate of 30fps. So this confuses me on whether the captured footage is progressive or interlaced. In this mode is using an HDV 1080p30 preset, or an HDV 1080i30 (60i) preset appropriate?

4. A I correct in saying that in all modes the HV30 records interlaced but that after pulldown removal 24p output is progressive?

[feenjeen]

I dunno if this has been covered before - but just a bit of info that may be helpful for others.
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/674918?tstart=0
Works for me when capturing the HV20 on Premiere CS4

I found the "faux progressive" information interesting anyway. Granted I know virtually nothing about video stuff, but usually when a word like this crops up, it can explain why people seem to be having problems. Like I was.

[Eugenia Loli-Queru]

Premiere Elements 9 now supports 24p timelines too without hacks: http://eugenia.queru.com/2010/10/14/...-supports-24p/