Originally Posted by dcloud
Actually, from what I've read on various website/magazine, 17.3mm is the width when shoting 4/3, but the sensor is bigger than that. That's why it's written "image sensor size" rather than "sensor size". So when you shot 16/9, you get some extra (up to 18.6mm) as shown on your flash animation.
Last edited by divide; 2009 April 26th at 07:57.
ok thats much clearer. I cant confirm that one though
i like the adapted lens footage on youtube so far...
new one just in with a nikkor 28 f2 :
[ame="http://vimeo.com/4337192"]Panasonic GH1 + Nikkor Ais28mm/f.2.0 on Vimeo[/ame]
my vids with 5Dmk2, 7D, GoProHD, HV20, exotic & rare glass : anamorphics, fisheye, macro, tilt-shift, ultra-wide
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afHZoLK_2xM"]YouTube - GH1?AVCHD????[/ame]
Im loving this cam. it has CMOS flaws, but im loving it.
Best GH1 footage I've seen so far ! So bad it's so short and lack technical infos
my god i want this cam now... my poor hv30 is shivering with fear in the corner of my room..
Night footage with Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 35mm F1.8 !
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYpcMYYWKQc&hl=fr"]YouTube - LUMIX DMC-GH1???TEST2[/ame]
NEED !
One simple word: sold.
Amazing, the battle for the best hybrid camera... and Panasonic is the winner? Who saw that coming?
So - to use a non-panasonic lens - like the Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 35mm F1.8 - Auto focusing would HAVE to be manual right?
Only the Panasonic lenses would have AutoFocus working?
I'm partial to this footage:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ8YVKcMEQA"]YouTube - Test: Panasonic LUMIX DMC-GH1 - Pt.1[/ame]
I am not 100% sure but I believe any lens made under the Four Thirds Standard will have autofocus, anything else is forced manual focus. A list of four thirds lenses can be found here.
I'm pretty amped about this camera too.
Nice footage, Boz. Thanks for the link.
OK. Quick question. I've noticed this "effect" with 5DMkII footage as well.
When a rack focus occurs, as in the beginning of the footage Boz linked to there appears to be a "shadow" on the handrail the birds are on that races along with the rack-focus. This occurs in the first 1-2 seconds of footage.
Is this normal?
Just wondering.
sincerely,
MT
This cam is looking very good.
to grizzle / outflow
It seems my business is over! I think nobody will want a camcorder+dof adapter after the GH1. It is hard to figure out this, but it is true.
I am experimenting the AVCHD since a week ago and all I have to say is AVCHD is great. It is better than HDV mpeg2. I downloaded some HG20, HF10, HF11, HF20 footage from watch.impress japanese website and the image is so clean, pure and perfect even at 17mbps. I can say 9mbps is good if image does not have so much motion.
So I downloaded the m2ts files from the GH1, the 3 files available until now. The GH1 footage is not so clean as the canon camcorders, there are some noise and I think this noise is from the sensor, not from the AVCHD encoding, maybe the canon camcorders have a better noise reduction. But this very little noise issue can be solved using a noise reduction plugin or software and the image will be as clean as the canon. You cannot see this noise in the computer monitor or in the LCD or Plasma tv screens. This noise just can be seen in a old CRT television. I did a render to miniDV cropping 100% the GH1 footage to see in the old CRT television and I saw the noise. but with the noise cleaning the image became perfect.
The shallow dof in GH1 is very good and I think this sensor size is good. The stock lens will not give a good shallow dof beause it is 4-5.8 so it will be needed some fast prime lenses to get the good shallow dof. due to the 2x crop factor the dof from a 24mm f2 nikon lens will be like a 48mm f4 because the dof behaves two fstops difference when the crop factor is 2x so the following lenses are very great to use in the GH1 (just the dof will be 2 fstops difference, the light keeps the same, of course)
tokina 11-16mm f2.8 dof will be like 22-32mm f5.6
tamron 17-35mm f2.8-4 dof will be like 34-70mm f5.6-8
17mm f3.5 dof will be like 34mm f7
18mm f2.8 dof will be like 36mm f5.6
20mm f1.8 dof will be like 40mm f3.6
20mm f2.8 dof will be like 40mm f5.6
24mm f1.4 dof will be like 48mm f2.8
24mm f1.8 dof will be like 48mm f3.6
24mm f2 dof will be like 48mm f4
28mm f1.8 dof will be like 56mm f3.6
28mm f2 dof will be like 56mm f4
35mm f1.4 dof wil be like 70mm f2.8
35mm f2 dof will be like 70mm f4
50mm f1.4 dof will be like 100mm f2.8
50mm f1.8 dof will be like 100mm f3.6
the tele lens after 50mm can be slow because the tele lens have a shalower dof than the wide angles.
The manual shutter, aperture and iso is all everybody wants. the GH1 has contrast, brigth and color controls. I think a cinegamma is not so important. The low light capabiities are amazing. I saw some photos from G1 and at iso 800 the image is perfect. and 1600 and 3200 is useable too. Autofocus is not important in a movie making for professionals so using old 35mm lenses are amazing. the HV20 is iso 100 at 0db and the GH1 is iso 800 at same 0db quality. HV20 is iso 3200 at full gain and the GH1 have the iso 3200 too. The grain and noise in the G1 phtos are better than HV20 noise and grain.
AVCHD is very easy to edit using the Neo Scene software by Cineform. I used a demo version to do the test and I could play at half resolution preview seeing all frames in a old pentium 4 3.4ghz single core. the dissolve preview gave me 12 fps preview. A core 2 duo E8400 will give you a dissolve preview at full 24fps at half resolution 960 x540 that is enough to edit.
The GH1 image is great at low light in the m2ts file I saw, very better than the HV20 without dof adapter. And remember it is impossible to shot with dof adapter in a street low light at night.
I see somebody showing vertical lines in the GH1 image but I saw the video and the lines is almost unoticeable. These lines just can be seen in a black and white image if you increase the contrast so so much. And remember that HV20 have these vertical lines too. They are more noticeable in HV20 just after you turn it on and look at the lcd screen. And a few seconds after the lines disapear from the HV20 lcd. It is a cmos sensor issue and in the real life image it is not a problem, the image will be great in sun or night.
the GH1 lcd and viewfinder has 480k pixels, very good for focusing, just more that twice the hv20 screen.
I would like to see the specifications and results from the samsung NX because it has a bigger sensor that is better for low light and for wide angle, the crop factor is about 1.5 and it gives a possibilitie to have faster wide angle lenses with a shalower dof.
the GH1 has a mic input and a av out to monitoring the sound... all we need...
well, so many true conclusions... the GH1 is the indie filmaking camera for the moment!
Last edited by Adriano Apefos; 2009 April 26th at 21:20. Reason: mic input
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zed6fSntVYY"]YouTube - Lumix GH1 short movie KICHIJOUJI[/ame]
this footage looks great
People over at the ScarletUser forum are now citing this footag
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHR62kKyjok"]YouTube - Motorcycle Handlebar Mounted Lumix DMC GH1 Camera[/ame]
Some quotes:
"Thanks for posting this.
I bet the Red Team are dying laughing...Oh Panny, if you only knew how to design a sensor...."
No one seems to realize that most cameras strapped to a car will vibrate like that.
Yeah, so I guess GH1 is an epic fail when one straps it to a motorcycle without stabilization and drives over a bumpy road. Sheesh. Even with a Red One that footage would be unusably shaky. And once again the folks over there forget this camera (with lens) costs $1000 less than Scarlet will cost without a lens. Over $2000 less than the Scarlet fixed lens kit will be. I'm sure they'll be comparing a BMW to Yugo there next. Gimme a break.
that idiot hahaha!
just reassuring themselves
edit:
ok checked the site.. its only one idiot comment along with a naivette
Last edited by dcloud; 2009 April 26th at 23:24.
Most of the footage that's coming out is looking pretty good. I'm still waiting for word on the 1/48 shutter at 24fps question. Anyone heard anything about that yet? I'm excited to see what this camera can do when some pros get their hands on it.
yeah. i read somewhere it goes down to 1/30, so 1/48 is quite plausible.
specially with fluorescent banding appears only in 1/48 shutters
(depending on the country of course
Anyone notice that during this clip the wet road began to have an oil slick look? A rainbow effect of sorts. Is this the camera or is this casued by the rain on the windshield. Any ideas?
Good point. Damn new technology and it's expenses!
Least the kit would come with a decent lens if you decided to get it. But if it knocked down the price quite a bit ($500-600 lower than the retail maybe?) I might just shoot manual for a while.
Last edited by cantirules; 2009 April 27th at 01:44.
The perfect lens for the GH1 !
http://www.four-thirds.org/en/produc...ard.html#14-35
14-35mm (35mm equivalent: 28-70mm), f2, fast AF !
..but it cost more than 2000$
WOW. This camera seems better than the hv20 in so many ways. Couple of questions.
1. Does this camera autofocus in video mode using olympus lenses?
2. 24p native?
IMHO These low light samples seem comparable to the hmc-150. Even with the stock lens f4
Last edited by Noel; 2009 April 27th at 07:41.
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