HV30 + pinnacle 10.5 + vimeo: help....

[STANG KILLA SS]

hello all!
im making the jump to HD finally with a HV30

i have a few questions.

1. ive run pinnacle studio for ever. back when i did analog editing (studio 7), and then jumped to 10.5 when i went digital (non HD). can i use my pinnacle studio 10.5 titanium to rip, edit, and produce the HD movies? (it says HD capable, just not sure what improvements they made for 11 and 12)

2. i assume the HV30 will work fine for vimeo. will studio 10.5 work for making vids for vimeo? if so are there any settings, or anything i need to know when ripping, editing, or output options when the vid is created?

3. any and all tips suggestions or concerns about using these 3 together?(hv30, studio 10.5, and vimeo)

4. computer is a Dual Pentium 1.8 with 1GB ram, XP, running GeForce 8300 128, but it shows 512 after reformat. is that enough?

thanks!
Cory

[CycleWriter]

IIRC, Studio 10.5 does not handle HD very well. Also, that computer you got is barely adequate to work with HD. I would seriously consider a PC upgrade. 2gb of RAM is the minimum. A 2nd hard drive is also a good idea. Take a look in the PC subforum for a Sticky on PC specs to see what most of are using.

[STANG KILLA SS]

IIRC, Studio 10.5 does not handle HD very well.

could you elaborate? how does 11 and 12 handle it better?

Also, that computer you got is barely adequate to work with HD. I would seriously consider a PC upgrade. 2gb of RAM is the minimum. A 2nd hard drive is also a good idea. Take a look in the PC subforum for a Sticky on PC specs to see what most of are using.

this would put me at 3gigs of ram for cheap.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146526
thats all id really care to upgrade. im a casual film maker for fun. 2-3 a year max.

any experience with vimeo? anything i need to know there?

many thanks
Cory

[CycleWriter]

Pinnacle Studio is not a popular program in here. Prone to crashing and very buggy up to version 12. Version 10 is at least 3 years old and a lot has changed in HD editing since then. Personally, I will never use another Pinnacle product after my dissatisfaction with Studio and their customer service.

Not likely you'll be able to add 2gb of dual-channel RAM to your 1gb since most computers require matching amounts in each DIMM slot. You'll probably have to chuck the 1gb and use just the 2gb in two slots. Check your motherboard specs to be sure.

[STANG KILLA SS]

ah ok, noted. i think pinacle offers a $69 upgrade to 12. and ebay has the whole program for $40 might be worth looking into sounds like. i really like the program.

current setup is twin 512 sticks(1 each side) so if i added the twin 1g sticks the slots i would have matching amounts in each DIMM slot. ie 1.5g either side, total 3. would it work in that case?

[CycleWriter]

ah ok, noted. i think pinacle offers a $69 upgrade to 12. and ebay has the whole program for $40 might be worth looking into sounds like. i really like the program.

Studio is not too heavily used in here , so you'll pretty much be on your own for any help you may need. Most of us are using some version of Sony's Vegas, Adobe's Premiere or just Windows Movie Maker. Questions on those usually get quick responses.

current setup is twin 512 sticks(1 each side) so if i added the twin 1g sticks the slots i would have matching amounts in each DIMM slot. ie 1.5g either side, total 3. would it work in that case?

Depends on your motherboard. If it supports dual-channel RAM it might only do so if the matching DIMMS are in specific slots. You really need to consult your motherboard manufacturer for their requirements.

[Terfyn]

AVID today announced that Pinnacle Studio™ Plus version 12, its market-leading consumer video editing software, is the recipient of the prestigious European Imaging and Sound Association (EISA) “European HD Video Editing 2008-2009” Award. Offering a complete HD workflow solution, Pinnacle Studio Plus simplifies importing, editing and exporting full, high-definition (HD) video, including HDV and AVCHD video. Pinnacle Studio Plus’s burning capabilities allow users to natively author and burn Blu-ray format (BD-MV) discs with full motion menus or make AVCHD format discs on standard DVDs to play on Blu-ray players.

Well somebody must like it!!

Cyclewriter's bias is well known. He has had a bad experience so it must be rubbish.

Studio 12 supports HD very well and is a good, easy to use, editor. It does not have the bells and whistles of Vegas but I have had no problem with capturing and editing from the HV20.
And you are not on your own with Pinnacle products, they now have a good Forum and a support service (use the e-mail NOT live chat).

[Bob Sanders]

4. computer is a Dual Pentium 1.8 with 1GB ram, XP, running GeForce 8300 128, but it shows 512 after reformat. is that enough?


Cory

You will also most likely have to upgrade your video card. For hi def video a hardware compatible DX9 video card is required with 256MB dedicated memory (not shared).

[Bob Sanders]

Well somebody must like it!!

Studio works fine with the HV20 and is a somewhat reasonable program...... for it's BASE price. However you start throwing some of the extras in (some of which come standard in other NLE's) and it fast becomes outrageously silly. If you get studio with all the extras, you're talking around $500 and that's crazy.

But Studio's bigger problem is that it's old. Starting with Studio 10 they incorporated the Avid Liquid render engine (Liquid is studio's big brother) into studio mainly because the older studio engine would not do hi def. They're killing Liquid by the way.... because it's old.... Liquid 7.2 is the last version. Now they're SUPPOSED to be engineering a replacement for liquid, but the point is that if liquid has be deemed old.... then what does that make studio?

Now there is nothing wrong with old technology... unless of course you take the same track that Pinnacle did in upgrading Liquid over the years. You see.... Liquid reminds me very much of a car that has had so many after-market, bolt-on parts added that you can't see through the clutter anymore.

Pinnacle Studio also has big problems with AC3 files too.... and they know it. They actually tried to write the manual in such a way that hides the fact that studio downmixes AC3 to stereo when importing it.... A pretty cheesy thing to do.

I have both Pinnacle studio.... and Avid Liquid. I haven't touched them in a couple of years now. I have moved on to other programs (Sony Vegas Pro). It was a bit tough getting into the beat of another NLE... but today I am MUCH happier for it!

[STANG KILLA SS]

yeah i think im gonna pick up studio 12. 50 bucks on ebay you cant beat that. and the standard plus edition has all the bells i would ever want. im simple.

and yeah the card i bought from dell was a 128. however by brother in law works for dell and said they are 512 cards, they just use different settings/software to activate what you order, after i reformated the computer, the card is now showing to have the full 512 dedicated.

thanks for the added insite guys, always good to hear from more sources.

[CycleWriter]

Well somebody must like it!!

Cyclewriter's bias is well known. He has had a bad experience so it must be rubbish.

Legendary, in fact.

AVID today announced that Pinnacle Studio™ Plus version 12, its market-leading consumer video editing software, is the recipient of the prestigious European Imaging and Sound Association (EISA) “European HD Video Editing 2008-2009” Award. Offering a complete HD workflow solution, Pinnacle Studio Plus simplifies importing, editing and exporting full, high-definition (HD) video, including HDV and AVCHD video. Pinnacle Studio Plus’s burning capabilities allow users to natively author and burn Blu-ray format (BD-MV) discs with full motion menus or make AVCHD format discs on standard DVDs to play on Blu-ray players.

Studio 12 supports HD very well and is a good, easy to use, editor. It does not have the bells and whistles of Vegas but I have had no problem with capturing and editing from the HV20.
And you are not on your own with Pinnacle products, they now have a good Forum and a support service (use the e-mail NOT live chat).

Ooh, dubious honors from some equally dubious organization. What a ringing endorsement. And if you read some of the internet forums and Pinnacle's own you'll see I am not alone in my "bad experience." Even several of the well-known PC magazines have long called Studio "buggy" software. I was a relatively happy Studio user up to ver. 10, bugs and all. It wasn't until I experienced what is arguable some of the worst customer service I have ever seen that I kicked Pinnacle to the curb. If it has improved, I commend them because it needed to. I'll continue to be a happy Vegas/PowerDirector customer, though.