I have the Camera set in Pf24 and cinema mode.
I find that when i slow pan i get a motion blur effect on playback in FCE that i do not want.
Is this because of my camera modes.
You can't Tweak the shutter in cinema mode, right?
Are there any paramaters i can tweak that may fix this.
Previously geeking out over 2/3" Scarlet. Scarlet-X...not so much.
Add more light.
Originally Posted by pwrlogic
In cine mode, the camera will try not to use gain, it will first set the shutter as slow as possible - in PAL (25p) model it's 1/25, i suppose in NTSC (24p) model you get 1/24.
You need more light in order to let the camera to reduce exposure.
If that's not possible, shoot in 60i and make the footage 24p in post. In 60i the maximum shutter speed in cine mode is 1/60, AFAIK.
i can't add more light
it's a dimly lit recording studio scene with most of the light coming from the gear. everything looks great until i pan.
The low light performance is better than i thought it would be.
so i want to make sure i understand you.
should i drop the cinemode or the pf24.
do you think it would help if i stayed in pf24 and used sport mode
You can drop cinema mode and use Tv mode instead to set the shutter speed as you need. But the look will be a little bit different. You can also try decreasing contrast and sharpness in the custom settings to make it a little bit more like cinema mode or perhaps you can do some adjustments in post processing.
The only way I can think of to get rid of the blurring is to do as ronnylov suggests and use TV mode to raise the shutter speed. This will probably make the picture too dark.
You could then go into custom settings and raise the brightness, and lower the contrast.. which may help make the picture lighter.. but whether it's enough is another matter.
Could you not put a low wattage bulb in a light socket and turn that on? Or put a small table light on a surface somewhere out of the way? You'd still get nice lights from the gear, but the extra light would help with the shooting.
thank you for the responses.
i will try to place my 20 watt canon vl-20 lights in places which may help. i guess i'll have to experiment some more. i assume thru all of your input that the pf24 has no bearing on the blur so i will stay with that.
just trying to get as slick a film look as possible.
Can't do to much in post because i only have FCE and i just ordered the natress effects. All of my software and hardware are more audio oriented.
i'll post video when done!
If panning is the only problem, why not take a series of static shots at different pan positions and do quick dissolves between them to get a similar effect?
The shots fade in static then fade out on the pan but thanks for the suggestion.
it's 3;30pm here in nyc. i start shooting again after dark.
i have my personal instrument practice to do and then some mixing so i'll be busy until dark.
then i'm going to try the tv mode thing.
On this i used cinema mode and fluorescent white balance and vivid color.
I did not do any color correcting or anything in post.
I see that i have to get some diffused lighting because my 150 watt par cans just did not look good in HD (to much glare).
I had focusing problems where the focus would go in and out slightly.that was annoying and i don't know why that was, i think it's something with the zoom and auto focus. this is not in pf24, once i got out of pf24 the motion blur stopped. i'm still working on learning the cam enough to do all of that custom stuff you guys recommended. i would like to use pf24 on a music video i have in the works.
thanks for your comments everyone.
2007 July 20th, 13:51
If the PARs are too harsh, try bouncing them off a chunk of white foamcore ...
2007 July 20th, 13:55
Yeah that can work but i figure i might as well get a good set of diffused ones.
i'm going thru the b&h catalog as we speak.
I've seen some good ones from bescor, only 40 watts though!
2007 July 20th, 14:20
Don't overlook the fact that you can get different variations of PAR globes (spot vs flood) and you can also use diffusion in the gel frames to further soften the light. They're fairly versatile, and after all you already have them ...
2007 July 20th, 14:35
That is very true.
But i understand that to get the best results and to have as much versatility as possible i would need at least two 500 watt lights.
so right now i'm looking at getting two of those but they are gonna have to be low heat because the 150 watt par cans burned me up.
but i guess lighting is another thread. at least i got rid of the motion blur on panning.
2007 July 20th, 21:23
Hey, great filming, pwrlogic.. I really like it!