Dammed Straight! I'm trying to figure out how to get some money off the tooth fairy without having to forfeit a tooth. You're pretty good with imagination.... can you help me with that?Originally Posted by MalfunctioningHuman
Dammed Straight! I'm trying to figure out how to get some money off the tooth fairy without having to forfeit a tooth. You're pretty good with imagination.... can you help me with that?
What type of engineer? Engineer is a very broad term.
Mal... we all need help in one way or another. Take me for example... if I laugh out loud just one more time while my wife is trying to sleep.... I'm in deep doo-doo
You know what's sad? I don't believe in God and Bob has successfully offended/angered me. Frankly a Christian version of me fares better. either way; mission accomplished Bob. You've made me hate myself.
Why are you so jaded? Do you just believe on what you have immediately experienced, automatically dismissing what any other people tell you? Do you think Christianity was born out of a lie? Are you even familiar with the life of people like St. Paul and St. Peter?
The funny part though is that you think alien life is almost certain. Do you have a formula that has allowed you to calculate the probabilities involved? (Yes, I am aware of that formula.)
Whew! I've skipped 6 (or was it 8) pages of this ping-pong match of yours, and will only respond to responses made to my last post, or related to it:
Well, after we (Finland) were finally left to ourselves after WWII by the Russians and Germans (we had to kick the latter out even though they originally helped us against the Russians), we have not fought any war. (Being part of the UN peacekeeping force doesn't count, IMO.)
So you do in Finland, too. Here's the 2011 table (in euros):
1. child 104,19
2. child 115,13
3. child 146,91
4. child 168,27
Each following child 189,63
- note that the stated amount is for each child, every month, until 17 years of age.
So, a single kid would get the parents 21,254.76 euros, or almost $30,000 over the years (actually more, since the amounts will be adjusted for inflation.) Four kids would net the family almost $150,000 - tax free.
Add virtually free health care, education up to post-graduate level, unemployment insurance etc, and you can see why we do pay somewhat high taxes...
2nd class power. I work For Child and Family Services and design/maintian safe accommodations for children in need
I don't think you want to know, I think you are just playing a game.
And if each of those children mature into functioning members of society their collective tax worth to the Finnish government is...?
No. I think it was born out of fear. Religion was created to keep the masses scared and in line. Religion and racism mean very much the same thing. The only difference being that racism segregates on physical attributes while religion segregates on intellectual ones. I think religion is an evil cult which preys on the weak and suck the individually out of you. I think religion over the centuries has killed MANY more than it has ever saved.
In short I think religion is pure eveil and this world would be a much nicer place without it.
I have no idea, WS. But if God is all knowing and just, I think we can trust Him.
The idea is that the people before Jesus were subject to the Old Covenant (at least Jewish people were.) After Jesus, the only way to save our soul is through faith in Him. And people who have never heard of Jesus? I have no idea.
One thing I do know, and that is that we cannot look at God's actions from the moral standpoint of a human mind. As I said, God works in mysterious ways. Put your trust in God and don't let your mind be upset about things you won't ever be able to find the answers for. Concentrate on the things you do know and are certain to you. To me that is faith in Jesus and to try to follow his example as well as I can (which I routinely fail miserably at, mind you.)
I truly mean it. Think about it.
No... quite serious. If this god has the power you say it does then popping on down here and creating/destroying another Jesus for us non believers to see should be a pretty easy thing to do. It'll accomplish a fair bit too.
You just exposed Bob for what he truly is: An undercover agent of the vatican whose job is to make people Christian by making them hate his atheistic views.
There we go... the wife is mad at me now.
Nope, I don't doubt that they ever lived. I'd just like to see unaltered primary sources. When Paul's conversion took place after the crucifixion, how can he be a primary source?
From your writings in other threads I know you are a logical thinker, and I honor you as such. Problem: Guys and gals differ in their logic, so do, seemingly, believers and non-believers.I am a very logical person. I'm by all accounts not stupid, far from it. And I see no logical contradiction in believing in the divinity of Jesus Christ. Many people exist like me. For example, the director of the Human Genome Project. My point is that there are no logical impediments to believe in Jesus as our Savior. Quite the opposite, there exists a lot of compelling data to support that fact.
"It is dark the other side. Very dark!" - "Oh, shut up and eat your toast!"
That's a very noble occupation and must be very fulfilling. But why do you like to antagonize people so much in the forum?
Holy balls. What is the point you are trying to make Janke? That more kids is good if the government pays for it? I don't follow...
You get the gist of it. Population growth in Finland is low.
http://www.google.com/publicdata/exp...ue&hl=en&dl=en
Mind you, I don't necessarily agree with your deduction. My contribution to population growth (so far, and barring accidents) is zero.
Excellent point. It sounds like Finland is just one of those good old multimarketing pyramidal schemes. LOL
Oh please... don't get me started on the Vatican! I mean here we have this idiot called the pope running around in a friggin 747 jumbo jet kissing the ground where ever he goes. Do you have any idea at all how much it costs to keep a 747 in the air for a single hour??? You could feed a whole town of starving children with that money for a week. The Vatican... what a hypocrisy!
Then my contention is modern day man, no matter his belief, can be saved because he lacked all of the information.
People will find any excuse they can to kill other people. Usually the excuse is in the form of differences (different race, different nationality, different language, different religion.) But there is nothing in Jesus' message which demonstrates this divisive spirit, much the opposite. Jesus is the Savior for all mankind.
I do know the Church, for all its failings, also has done many good things. The work of Christian missionaries who have given their lives to help the needy is undeniable. I'm talking of missionaries that died in Africa and South America for example.
Then there is the bastards that abuse children. Which ones do you think are following the work of Jesus? It's like if you determined that because there are corrupt cops the idea of Justice is flawed and you felt the need to abolish law enforcement.
Another way to realize that religion is not the problem is to look at the humanitarian record of authoritarian regimes with an atheistic non-religious stance: U.S.S.R., P.R.C., Cambodia, etc. Completely brutal, unmatched campaigns of human sacrifice. What did they have in common? Absolute rejection of religion.
So you see, it's easy to blame religion for humankind's problems. But the actual problem is more complicated than that.
I don't antagonize. I tell it the way I see it. If you get offended then maybe you should not involve yourself in a "religious debate" thread?
I'm very secure in my beliefs, I would expect you to be the same.
Sorry... but quite frankly I find it hilarious with these pictures in my mind of Mary chatting guys up at the bar, or God sitting on the toilet with the runs. It's funny stuff!
LOL indeed. But having a growth rate of less than 0.5%, when the world population is growing almost three times faster, the "scheme" is a form of self-preservation, would you not say?
(Again, I've not helped any there, have I? Genetic suicide...
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