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    I’ll have to decontaminate my PC after this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    No counseling at all Ian... I'm not a counselor in any way shape or form... but I do know that claiming to be "used to being beaten down" is at the very least.... a strange thing to say.... even in jest. But it's not really my place to go so we'll leave it at that.
    Mmm...ok then....maybe you would have understood me better if I said "been there, done that, bought the T-shirt." It's just my way of stating that I can relate to what was said. We were talking about having thick skin....and I believe all of us to some degree or another have our own 'level of thickness" based on our own individual experiences. There's really no reason to read too much into my statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Playing View Post
    Would a loving and almighty god create worshippers?
    The answer is yes. Now if by "worshipres" you meant "robots" then no. He created us with "free will." To me it's like the old cliche..."if you love something let it go"....cause if it returns then you know the love is reciprocal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian-T View Post
    The answer is yes.
    This is something I cannot comprehend.
    But then I am a cat person and have been in trouble for being reluctant to salute hats.

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    Ian you are worried about the devil. But let’s look at what the devil made people do:

    Eat another slice of cake, buy this dress in the window, listen to Rock'n Roll or at worst throw a cricket match.
    I don’t need to go into what god “made people do”. So...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    I don't do it... My wife and I do it.
    So you and your wife can do something without you doing it? Doesn't that mean that it's just your wife who is doing it and you aren't? If that's the case, just say that your wife does it, and not you. If you and your wife do it, then you must, by definition, do it. Even if it's with the support of your wife, you're still doing it.

    I take it you're not a parent because if you were then you would know there is really no such thing as a "perfect set of parents".
    You, sir, are a master of stating the obvious.

    That to me is both a silly... and scary analogy which tells me just exactly how far gone you are. Of all the examples you could have used (like teaching a child not to trust strangers) you chose to use "war" and "sharpshooters". That gives me a rough idea at how you see this world.

    Are there dangers? Sure there are, and those dangers need to be pointed out... but you can choose to look at this world as a half empty glass... or a half full one. Clearly the bible teaches you that the world is half empty.
    Huh... so you never struggle with not doing something you know you shouldn't? That struggle could easily be described as warring with yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iThinkergoiMac View Post
    So you and your wife can do something without you doing it? Doesn't that mean that it's just your wife who is doing it and you aren't? If that's the case, just say that your wife does it, and not you. If you and your wife do it, then you must, by definition, do it. Even if it's with the support of your wife, you're still doing it.
    Wow... the point just kind of flew right over your head didn't it.
    "I" is singular while "My wife and I" are plural.... as in a team. We as a team do it.

    Huh... so you never struggle with not doing something you know you shouldn't? That struggle could easily be described as warring with yourself.
    Interesting how much time you spend talking/thinking about war, struggles, sharpshooting... etc. Is this really how you view the world??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playing View Post
    Ian you are worried about the devil. ...
    What,,,,,the movie that's currently out? Or that dude in hell who's only power is what we give away? No sir....I'm more concerned about the choices I make in my life.

    If the saying "perception is reality" is true....then the devil isn't anything more than a big ol powerless bully.
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    Doc, where did you find that non-sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet View Post
    So you and the missis are on the other side of the fence, i have to take my hat off to you there.My wife and me think alike it would have been hard otherwise ie no religous wedding etc.
    Are you both religious or not religous?

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    Bob, I was just curious your feelings on 12-step programs, like Alcoholics Anonymous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbier View Post
    Doc, where did you find that non-sense?
    The InterWeb... it's full of for and against, and mindless debates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildside50 View Post
    Are you both religious or not religous?
    I think it shows maturity when couples are polar opposites yet enjoy each - whether the polarising issue be religion, smoking, veganism et al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildside50 View Post
    Bob, I was just curious your feelings on 12-step programs, like Alcoholics Anonymous?
    I honestly don't know enough about them to comment one way or the other. I have never been involved or known anybody involved in such a thing so I couldn't even begin to describe my feelings on the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    I couldn't even begin to describe my feelings on the issue.
    Step 1: Bob... welcome. Would you like to begin today's talk. Please... what's on your mind? What's in your heart?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Benway View Post
    I think it shows maturity when couples are polar opposites yet enjoy each - whether the polarising issue be religion, smoking, veganism et al.
    LOL! My wife and I are like North and South. She's a bit religious, I am not. I smoke, she doesn't. She's a clean freak, I'm a bit messy.... it just goes on and on. In spite of that however, I don't think I could EVER find a better human being to be with.... Just an incredible woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Benway View Post
    Step 1: Bob... welcome. Would you like to begin today's talk. Please... what's on your mind? What's in your heart?
    Well... I would like to invite God into my life.....

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    Doc, I've read similar stuff about Jews, White Males, and Irishmen.

    Some of that "Islam" stuff might have some factual basis, I wouldn't know, but we have to remember that there's a war on. Writers of propaganda are never troubled by considerations of truth and accuracy. Today's baby-eating bestial race is tomorrow's ally.

    Where did you source that? Is there more like it?

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    Amazingly, stuff like that only showed up on the interweb after a specific day in September 2001. Before, nobody gave a rat's behind about the muslim religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krute View Post
    Where did you source that? Is there more like it?
    http://www.google.co.th/search?clien...utf-8&oe=utf-8

    http://www.google.co.th/search?clien...utf-8&oe=utf-8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    Wow... the point just kind of flew right over your head didn't it.
    "I" is singular while "My wife and I" are plural.... as in a team. We as a team do it.
    So, in other words, you're simply nit-picking my words in order to avoid giving me a direct response. Good job on that red herring.

    Interesting how much time you spend talking/thinking about war, struggles, sharpshooting... etc. Is this really how you view the world??
    Two comments on a forum about war hardly indicate that I spend much time thinking about it. I spend more time thinking about war and sharpshooting when playing Halo than I typically do otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    Well... I would like to invite God into my life.....
    I'm here for you, Bob. Talk to me whenever you're ready... I'm ready to share the truth with you!
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    I meant by the same author, Doc. But I see there is no shortage of others ready to add their two cents.

    Aaaa, it gets so tedious, doesn't it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krute View Post
    I meant by the same author, Doc. But I see there is no shortage of others ready to add their two cents.

    Aaaa, it gets so tedious, doesn't it!
    I'm not sure - tedious indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    Well... I would like to invite God into my life.....
    Ever heard of the saying "be careful for what you wish for?"

    By the way...from what you said about your wife....she sounds like an incredible person indeed. She sanctify's your household.
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