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    Quote Originally Posted by MalfunctioningHuman View Post
    <asks Bob:> But why do you like to antagonize people so much in the forum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    No... quite serious. If this god has the power you say it does then popping on down here and creating/destroying another Jesus for us non believers to see should be a pretty easy thing to do. It'll accomplish a fair bit too.
    OK, Bob. You have already figured it out. Why don't you put up a website to let the rest of humanity know it is all a lie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbier View Post
    Nope, I don't doubt that they ever lived. I'd just like to see unaltered primary sources. When Paul's conversion took place after the crucifixion, how can he be a primary source?


    From your writings in other threads I know you are a logical thinker, and I honor you as such. Problem: Guys and gals differ in their logic, so do, seemingly, believers and non-believers.
    OK, when you say "believers and non-believers" do you mean just about the divinity of Jesus, or about the existence of a Creator altogether?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    Oh please... don't get me started on the Vatican! I mean here we have this idiot called the pope running around in a friggin 747 jumbo jet kissing the ground where ever he goes. Do you have any idea at all how much it costs to keep a 747 in the air for a single hour??? You could feed a whole town of starving children with that money for a week. The Vatican... what a hypocrisy!
    Is that the only thing that bothers you about the vatican? Good for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildside50 View Post
    Then my contention is modern day man, no matter his belief, can be saved because he lacked all of the information.
    Just worry about your own soul, man. In case of a loss of air pressure, oxygen masks will deploy. Fit your own mask before fitting your child's.

    Serioiusly, I have no idea except that I have the duty to consider all the data available to me and search my soul for answers of what the truth really is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalfunctioningHuman View Post
    OK, Bob. You have already figured it out. Why don't you put up a website to let the rest of humanity know it is all a lie?
    Are you kidding? Do you have any idea how many "god is silly" websites there are already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    I don't antagonize. I tell it the way I see it. If you get offended then maybe you should not involve yourself in a "religious debate" thread?

    I'm very secure in my beliefs, I would expect you to be the same.
    Sorry... but quite frankly I find it hilarious with these pictures in my mind of Mary chatting guys up at the bar, or God sitting on the toilet with the runs. It's funny stuff!
    I don't think you feel very secure about your beliefs actually. Otherwise you wouldn't ridicule things that you know other people consider holy. It's just basic common sense. By doing this you show you have a clear animosity, and animosity is a state from which rational decisions can't possibly be made.

    Also, I don't think your ability to reason logically is as solid as it could be, based on our previous discussions. Or maybe you were just trying to play games (which is most likely the true explanation for it, since after all you are an engineer.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    Are you kidding? Do you have any idea how many "god is silly" websites there are already?
    No, how many? But how can god be silly if he doesn't exist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalfunctioningHuman View Post
    I don't think you feel very secure about your beliefs actually. Otherwise you wouldn't ridicule things that you know other people consider holy. It's just basic common sense. By doing this you show you have a clear animosity, and animosity is a state from which rational decisions can't possibly be made.
    You missed it. It's not animosity. It's outright anger. Religion is just one more thing which I need to protect my kids from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janke View Post
    LOL indeed. But having a growth rate of less than 0.5%, when the world population is growing almost three times faster, the "scheme" is a form of self-preservation, would you not say?

    (Again, I've not helped any there, have I? Genetic suicide... )
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    Quote Originally Posted by MalfunctioningHuman View Post
    No, how many? But how can god be silly if he doesn't exist?
    That's just one. There are tons of them out there... God lies.... god is a lie.... Jesus kills... you name it, it's out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    You missed it. It's not animosity. It's outright anger. Religion is just one more thing which I need to protect my kids from.
    I am sorry, but anger is even more destructive than animosity. You just made my point.

    That's what happens when you move to Canada from the U.S. The sudden drop in crime around you and the mapple syrup fumes drive people crazy and they start thinking they need to protect their kids from the big man in the sky. Pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janke View Post
    HAHAHAHA. Funny because it's true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalfunctioningHuman View Post
    I am sorry, but anger is even more destructive than animosity. You just made my point.

    That's what happens when you move to Canada from the U.S. The sudden drop in crime around you and the mapple syrup fumes drive people crazy and they start thinking they need to protect their kids from the big man in the sky. Pathetic.
    I seriously don't mean this to offend but....It's not the big man in the sky I worry about... my kids aren't that dumb. It's fanatics like you and Ian who are the dangerous ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalfunctioningHuman View Post
    Also, I don't think your ability to reason logically is as solid as it could be, based on our previous discussions.
    Isn't the theist belief in existence based on faith?
    Here's the problem: Building a case of non existence based on logic fails. It's like trying to exchange documents between incompatible computers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    I seriously don't mean this to offend but....It's not the big man in the sky I worry about... my kids aren't that dumb. It's fanatics like you and Ian who are the dangerous ones.
    Fanatics like Ian and I? Really? Well, I can only speak for myself, but if I am the worst threat for your kids safety I can only say you live in an utopia.

    Then again, shouldn't a father at least spend 5 minutes of his Saturday with his kids instead of talking to strangers and playing pathetic logic cat-and-mouse games in an Internet forum? Just a pointer from a concerned Christian fanatic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HueyNRolf View Post
    OK, we can't discuss supernatural on logical grounds because the semantic literally means beyond the natural universe. The unnatural universe is undefined in science and logic.
    Science? Yes. Logic? No. The two are not the same.

    You seem to have problems understanding that definitions can be exclusive as well as inclusive. We can define things on the basis that A) they belong to a class X but also on the basis that B) they do not belong to a class Y. For example, and atheist is anyone who is NOT a deist. Supernatural is something that is NOT natural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HueyNRolf View Post
    Isn't the theist belief in existence based on faith?
    Here's the problem: Building a case of non existence based on logic fails. It's like trying to exchange documents between incompatible computers.
    Very well said, Huey. Yes, faith is necessary in order to believe in God. You cannot prove God. That being said, you can observe the data available to you and make a decision based on it. There is some degree of uncertainty, but to me the evidence supporting the existence of God is much stronger than the evidence supporting the non-existence of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HueyNRolf View Post
    It's like trying to exchange documents between incompatible computers.
    Here's a fun exercise! One computer's inability to interpret another's code neither invalidates the code nor the computer! Fun right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalfunctioningHuman View Post
    Fanatics like Ian and I? Really? Well, I can only speak for myself, but if I am the worst threat for your kids safety I can only say you life in an utopia.

    Then again, shouldn't a father at least spend 5 minutes of his Saturday with his kids instead of talking to strangers and playing pathetic logic cat-and-mouse games in an Internet forum? Just a pointer from a concerned Christian fanatic.
    It's 4am on Sunday morning here and my little one is sleeping. Earlier though we went tobogganing, watched a movie... went to the grandmother's... and a few other things.

    As for you speaking for yourself... I hope it stays that way because you hear an awful lot about priests and child buggering.... religious nuts with bombs... etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildside50 View Post
    Here's a fun exercise! One computer's inability to interpret another's code neither invalidates the code nor the computer! Fun right?
    Could be true, except that God obviously uses a Mac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalfunctioningHuman View Post
    OK, when you say "believers and non-believers" do you mean just about the divinity of Jesus, or about the existence of a Creator altogether?
    Any kind of religion. Or let me rephrase it: Theists and Atheists.

    It astounds you that a(ny) god is outside my logic, and I'm astounded that it is logical for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MalfunctioningHuman View Post
    Could be true, except that God obviously uses a Mac.
    Why's that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sanders View Post
    It's 4am on Sunday morning here and my little one is sleeping. Earlier though we went tobogganing, watched a movie... went to the grandmother's... and a few other things.

    As for you speaking for yourself... I hope it stays that way because you hear an awful lot about priests and child buggering.... religious nuts with bombs... etc.
    Wow. Where do you find the energy to do all that? I mean, you did all these things with your kid, yet you have the energy to stay up until 4:00 AM on a Sunday morning?

    I think you are too obsessed with religion being a bad thing. I personally am not a religious person (in the sense that I do not attend church.)

    Science is to the Universe as Religion is to God. Both science and religion represent our half baked attempts to comprehend the universe and God. Science is not bad because Joseph Mengele performed scientific experiments with Jewish prisoners. Religion is not bad because some "priests" buggered some children.

    Honestly, you are far too obsessed with religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbier View Post
    Any kind of religion. Or let me rephrase it: Theists and Atheists.

    It astounds you that a(ny) god is outside my logic, and I'm astounded that it is logical for you.
    Does it astound you that the two most brilliant scientific minds of the past 400 years believed in a Creator?

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