If I want to put some HV20 content on a DVD-R (NOT a BluRay disc) and play it on a Playstation 3 through the HDMI output to an HDTV, what are the encoding specs? (for Vegas users)
Playstation 3 DVD (not BluRay) Authoring
If I want to put some HV20 content on a DVD-R (NOT a BluRay disc) and play it on a Playstation 3 through the HDMI output to an HDTV, what are the encoding specs? (for Vegas users)
I don't have Vegas, but I assume just burn as a normal mpeg2 DVD. You will not get any HDV quality, since you're not burning to a HD DVD (not Toshiba). So you will pretty much just be using the PS3 as a normal DVD player. You can't burn HDV quality onto a normal DVD though. You can however connect the HV20 directly to the HD tv through the HDMI and watch the quality in HD. If you have something you edited, then you export it back to a mini dv tape and use the same process to view on the tv. Just make sure you export with full HDV specs.
Last edited by Michael Hackney; 2007 July 15th at 19:01.
I read this:
http://manuals.playstation.net/docum...filetypes.html
Which led me to believe that the PS3 could read the DVD-ROM as a filesystem and decode H.264 files that were better than SD DVD. Is that not true?
Maybe you can burn mpeg4 and get a better result. Give it a try =)
I don't have a PS3 and I need to make my attempts to get it to work have a high chance of success (my test machine is at a buddy's house and I don't want it to take too many days of tweaking until I get the settings right!)Originally Posted by Michael Hackney
The other problem for me is that the AppleTV has a pretty limited set of restrictions that I have to deal with. I hope the PS3 is more forgiving.
Just wanted to correct you Michael about burning HD content on a standard DVD. You can right now with Pinnacle Studio. I have done so. You can only do 20 minutes to a standard DVD but you can do it. The resultint DVD will only play on an HD DVD player. Once it's burned on your computer, your computer can't even bring up a directory on it. Note - I don't know whether this HD created on a standard DVD will play on a Blu ray player or not. I only have a Toshiba HD DVD player to test it.
All edited HV20 video footage(mpeg2) should be burnt to directory called Video on any DVD format or SD card, and the PS3 will play back the HD content.
That sounds pretty awesome. I guess the drawback is only the size of the disk and how much it can hold. I wonder about burning hd material from stuff that's already out there onto DVDs, but having it span onto several disks. Of course, it would be tedious to swap disks every so often.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD#3x_DVD
I think it is meant for training videos, shorts and so on. But it is standardized and should be accepted by every HD-DVD player. I donīt think there is something like that for Blu-Ray.
I've done a great deal of experimentation archiving to the PS3. First, you can burn the mt2 files right out of the freeware HDVSplit to a DVD-ROM and the PS3 will play them just fine. You can get around 40 minutes on a dual-layer DVD.
My preferred method is converting to AVC High Profile MP4 using x264. You can easily fit an hour of footage on a dual-layer DVD and the results are fantastic. You don't get menus and chapters but it will suffice until burning Blu-Ray discs becomes an affordable proposition.
I just tried that. I successfully created a 4Mbps 720p mp4 file with the Main Concept AVC and the playstation plays it just fine. But I created a 1080/24p file using the same settings and it won't recognize it. Any clues?
I don't have vegas, but I use premiere pro and I find the PS3 an excellent tool in conjunction with my hv20. I simply export straight from my timeline to an mpeg2 using the hdv codec and it looks amazing on my hdtv. Again, you can only fit about 20 minutes on a dvd, but it is def. possible on the ps3. In fact, I also keep an external hard drive attached to mine full of all of my finished videos so I can play them at any time. I think everybody on this forum should buy a ps3. It is the easiest way to view your high def content... oh, and you can play games on it.
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Hmm. Not sure. I've made 1080/24p clips with x264 and they play just fine. It took some experimenting to find the right command line parms though.
Command line parms? I use vegas....how do you get to create H.264 files?
x264 is IMHO best combined with MeGUI. Itīs very comfortable because it has an auto-update feature and has profiles for certain uses (like iPod, Quicktime, etc.). Go to x264.nl, you can find on the bottom of the page.
Can you use that codec to make a quick test video that is 1920x1080 @ 23.976fps and see if the Playstation can handle it? I am trying to figure out if it's my software or just that the playstation doesn't like 24p.
I wonder if it makes a difference if you put 24 or 25 fps x264 footage on PAL or NTSC consoles?
And do you put one big file on the DVD or is there a file size limit?
I save the edited movie out of Vegas Movie Studio platinum (either with Cineform or a lossless codec if you have space). Next, I create an avisynth script to convert the colorspace:
video = DirectShowSource("G:\movie.avi", audio=false).ConvertToYV12()
audio = DirectShowSource("G:\movie.avi", video=false)
AudioDub(video, audio)
Then I create a 2-pass AVC file using the following two lines in a bat file that takes two arguments. Argument one is the name of the avisynth script, argument two is the name of the output file...the output file must have the extension .264. You can "hard-code" the file names below by replacing the %1 and the %2:
x264.exe --pass 1 --stats .stats --bitrate 16384 --sar 4:3 -A all --aud --level 4.1 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --direct auto --analyse none --me dia --subme 1 --progress -o %2 %1
x264.exe --pass 2 --stats .stats --bitrate 16384 --sar 4:3 -A all --aud --level 4.1 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --direct auto --8x8dct --analyse all --subme 6 --me umh --b-rdo --bime --weightb --trellis 1 --progress -o %2 %1
Wait a long time and you have PS3 playable high-profile AVC file. Next use something like VirtualDub to save a wav file out of the original AVI or avisynth script. Convert the wav to AAC using a tool like neroAacEncode (included with a tool called XVID4PSP if you can't find it). Once you have the AAC file mux the .264 and .aac together into a .mp4 file with MP4Box.
MP4Box.exe -fps 23.98 -add g:\file.aac -add g:\file.264 g:\file.mp4
Simple as pie.
This example assumes you're encoding a 1440x1080 file otherwise the --sar argument needs to change. (The PS3 honors the aspect ratio).
Last edited by javayoda; 2007 July 17th at 17:45.
Lemme get this straight, you successfully get your PS3 to play 1920x1080 (1440x1080 x 1.333333) files at 23.976fps?I...
MP4Box.exe -fps 23.98 -add g:\file.aac -add g:\file.264 g:\file.mp4
Simple as pie.
This example assumes you're encoding a 1440x1080 file...
Well, damn. I am going to have to get my process setup for that. Is there any reason that the AVC that comes with Vegas 6 won't produce files that work?
Yes, the PS3 can play 1440x1080 AVC files created by X264 at 23.976. It can play 1440x1080 30p (deinterlaced 60i). You can even use the X264 --interlaced flag to encode interlaced 60i 1440x1080. The only drawback with interlace is that I can't figure out how to get the PS3 to start with the correct field...if the picture jumps up and down you have to hit the back seek until it looks right.
The PS3 is an amazing machine. My admittedly older 3.2 ghz P4 can't play these files without choking.
I think it may also be the codec's quality. I can encode a WMV9 with the same bit rate and resolution and play it back nicely on just about any modern CPU. I don't have any hard specs on whether or not the quality is as good, but to my eye the WMV9 and AVC files look about the same.
But at any rate, I am happy the PS3 can play the AVC files; something has to be able to play those beasts!
I used to get equivalent quality between XVID and WMV9 and both would play on any moderately powerful PC. Unfortunately, the PS3 does not support ASP MP4 or I'd probably go that route.
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