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Gonzz
2008 March 6th, 16:49
:hv20-smilie03:Hi guys, I have a little question,
My wife an I are going to Europe next Wednesday the 12 of this month..
I just got my HV20 for this trip. I want to shoot some nice footage ..
I’m planning to shoot on 24p most of it. I’m still figuring out what “mode settings” to use,.
P,TV,CINEMODE, I also don’t know yt how to shoot Black and White.. but that’s another story,. My Question is…:
Does any of you know if taking a Tripod to shoot in those cities could be a problem?
This is not a documentary, It’s a home video…but I understand that on certain cities a special permit is required to shoot
documentaries or movies.
I just don’t want to carry the tripod all the way if is going to represent some kind o problem..
Thanks guys I hope someone can answer me this..
And just like to add this:
You guys Rock!! You know a Lot of stuff.. I’m learning a lot from you…thanks.
mattias
2008 March 6th, 17:01
tripod is not always allowed but rarely a problem. flicker can be a problem with fluorescent lighting although i'm basing that on my opposite experience so i'm not sure how bad it is. bring a rain cover for paris. :-)
/matt
Erik Bien
2008 March 6th, 17:03
If you're worried about it and want to pack as light as possible, maybe something like the Pod (http://www.thepod.ca/) or a camera cradle (http://www.markertek.com/SearchProduct.asp?item=CC01&off=2&sort=prod&skuonly=0&search=camera+cradle&pagesize=20) or a Steadybag (http://www.markertek.com/SearchProduct.asp?item=SB1&off=2&sort=prod&skuonly=1&search=SB1&pagesize=20) would make more sense.
If you own a tripod then you should take it. You don't necessarily have to extend the legs as you walk around. Use the legs as a steadycam while you hand-hold.
Dont forget the HV-20 LOVES stabilisation.
You're going to 2 of Europe's greatest cities with fabulous Architecture and to record it with a HV-20 its an absolute MUST to take a tripod or some other form of stabilisation.
veg
Gonzz
2008 March 6th, 18:08
If you own a tripod then you should take it. You don't necessarily have to extend the legs as you walk around. Use the legs as a steadycam while you hand-hold.
Dont forget the HV-20 LOVES stabilisation.
You're going to 2 of Europe's greatest cities with fabulous Architecture and to record it with a HV-20 its an absolute MUST to take a tripod or some other form of stabilisation.
veg
you are saying taht using the tripod as a steady cam will help me on gettin a stable picture while walking? .. like a "crane"or "dolly"?...is that the idea?...
Im learning every day, more and more in this forum..
I 'll bring my tripod with me, and if they ask for a permit or something Ill just put it in its bag and walk away, thantry it again somewere else..
lol..:hv20-smilie31:
Exomniac
2008 March 6th, 19:04
I wish I had the HV20 when I was in Italy last summer. I encountered zero problems filming there. A tripod will be a life-saver when you want to capture the scale of the Colloseum. You're going to be walking into and out of alot of places, so you can either set your camera to automatic settings, or adjust manualy for each environment. Rome is awesome. Visit the Trevi Fountain at night, it's well lit, and absolutely stunning. But those guys walking around selling roses...don't look them directly in the eye. Trust me.
Gonzz
2008 March 6th, 19:19
I wish I had the HV20 when I was in Italy last summer. I encountered zero problems filming there. A tripod will be a life-saver when you want to capture the scale of the Colloseum. You're going to be walking into and out of alot of places, so you can either set your camera to automatic settings, or adjust manualy for each environment. Rome is awesome. Visit the Trevi Fountain at night, it's well lit, and absolutely stunning. But those guys walking around selling roses...don't look them directly in the eye. Trust me.
Thanks for telling me all this, but regarding this:
"But those guys walking around selling roses...don't look them directly in the eye. Trust me."
Tell me more about it. I' heard that one has to be very care full around there..
all the advice you can give-me is very welcome.
And guys please forgive my poor english Im working on it..thanks again..
suncat20
2008 March 6th, 20:06
Have fun on your trip. Be sure to take the time to review the owners manual (don't forget to pack it along for the trip).
I have learned that with any camcorder, in order to have a satisfying experience with it you must learn what it's capabilities are and MORE IMPORTANTLY WHERE IT FALLS SHORT.
The HV20 (like most newer camcorders lately), uses a CMOS with rolling exposure (or rolling shutter). You should understand how this can cause undesirable artifacts specific to this type of sensor and avoid doing the things that cause them the most. Basically, your pans (left and right) and tilts (up and down) need to be smooth and controled and slow. This is expecially true when using a slower frame rate like 24p. This is why the HV20 loves the support of a Tripod. I just got this link off of another web site and it explains all this very well.
http://dvxuser.com/jason/CMOS-CCD/
Gonzz
2008 March 6th, 20:23
Have fun on your trip. Be sure to take the time to review the owners manual (don't forget to pack it along for the trip).
I have learned that with any camcorder, in order to have a satisfying experience with it you must learn what it's capabilities are and MORE IMPORTANTLY WHERE IT FALLS SHORT.
The HV20 (like most newer camcorders lately), uses a CMOS with rolling exposure (or rolling shutter). You should understand how this can cause undesirable artifacts specific to this type of sensor and avoid doing the things that cause them the most. Basically, your pans (left and right) and tilts (up and down) need to be smooth and controled and slow. This is expecially true when using a slower frame rate like 24p. This is why the HV20 loves the support of a Tripod. I just got this link off of another web site and it explains all this very well.
http://dvxuser.com/jason/CMOS-CCD/
yOU GUYS REALLY roCK!!
LITTLE TIPS LIKE THIS WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE ON MY SHOOT..i will post my footage
PTravel
2008 March 6th, 22:54
:hv20-smilie03:Hi guys, I have a little question,
My wife an I are going to Europe next Wednesday the 12 of this month..
I just got my HV20 for this trip. I want to shoot some nice footage ..
I’m planning to shoot on 24p most of it. I’m still figuring out what “mode settings” to use,.
P,TV,CINEMODE, I also don’t know yt how to shoot Black and White.. but that’s another story,. My Question is…:
Does any of you know if taking a Tripod to shoot in those cities could be a problem?
This is not a documentary, It’s a home video…but I understand that on certain cities a special permit is required to shoot
documentaries or movies.
I just don’t want to carry the tripod all the way if is going to represent some kind o problem..
Thanks guys I hope someone can answer me this..
And just like to add this:
You guys Rock!! You know a Lot of stuff.. I’m learning a lot from you…thanks.I haven't used a tripod in Rome, but I have shot with one in Florence and Venice (and other cities in Europe) with no problems whatsoever (I was shooting with a VX2000, before I got my HV20). You can see them here:
http://travelersvideo.com/venice%20at%20night.wmv
www.travelersvideo.com/florence.wmv
Rome is safe (I've been there many times, and always with video equipment). Just use the same common sense precautions you'd use anywhere -- don't flash around money, be aware of your surroundings, etc.
Gonzz
2008 March 6th, 23:29
I haven't used a tripod in Rome, but I have shot with one in Florence and Venice (and other cities in Europe) with no problems whatsoever (I was shooting with a VX2000, before I got my HV20). You can see them here:
http://travelersvideo.com/venice%20at%20night.wmv
www.travelersvideo.com/florence.wmv
Rome is safe (I've been there many times, and always with video equipment). Just use the same common sense precautions you'd use anywhere -- don't flash around money, be aware of your surroundings, etc.
you shoot this?
this is pro level, I WILL TRY MY BEST,but i think Im still far from taking this kind of footage.. thats very good stuff.. thanks...
Exomniac
2008 March 7th, 00:52
We ran into rose-salesmen on more than one occasion during our trip. When I say "dont look them in the eye" its because that is the first step of getting sucked in. You look at them, they walk over and, on some occassions will not leave you alone until you buy a rose. If they approach you through their own initiative, do not even acknowledge their presence. Unless you want a rose, that is. I'm really looking forward to seeing your footage. Have a safe trip.
Gonzz
2008 March 7th, 01:08
We ran into rose-salesmen on more than one occasion during our trip. When I say "dont look them in the eye" its because that is the first step of getting sucked in. You look at them, they walk over and, on some occassions will not leave you alone until you buy a rose. If they approach you through their own initiative, do not even acknowledge their presence. Unless you want a rose, that is. I'm really looking forward to seeing your footage. Have a safe trip.
you are right,
I ll post my video on VIMEO,when i get back.. you are kind thanks again..:hv20-smilie70:
PTravel
2008 March 7th, 14:56
you shoot this?
this is pro level, I WILL TRY MY BEST,but i think Im still far from taking this kind of footage.. thats very good stuff.. thanks...Wow, thanks! Rome is a wonderful place to shoot video. I'd recommend avoiding the super-touristy places, e.g. the Trevi Fountain. Though it is beautiful, unless you're going off-season, it is always packed with tourists, souvenir hawkers, etc. The Coliseum is, similarly, very touristy. The Roman Forum is very picturesque (and huge!), and offers a lot of opportunity for interesting shots. I like the Trastevere section, which is rather Bohemian in a Greenwich Village sort of way, and also Borghese Park, which is frequented by locals (you can rent bicycles there). Though I'm sure there are bad sections of Rome, off the top of my head, I can't think of any, and I doubt that you'd go to them anyway, as there would be little to see there. The area around the main train station is a little dicey, only because the tourist-scammers (pickpockets, gypsies, etc.) tend to focus their attention there.
Gonzz
2008 March 7th, 15:07
3:11 to 3:16...
The little restaurant
The guy playing the sax
light...
My favorite.scene like a movie...
Terrible
2008 March 7th, 16:02
you are saying taht using the tripod as a steady cam will help me on gettin a stable picture while walking? .. like a "crane"or "dolly"?...is that the idea?
Tripod as steadicam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1aPbwcqquk)
'Excellent' link 'Terrible'.
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