View Full Version : Achievable look???
2008 January 31st, 19:50
Is this "look (http://www.vimeo.com/423889)" achievable with the beloved HV20?
They used a $80K "camcorder" but, do you think that with the right lighting you could achieve that look?
Or is the HDW-F900R (http://bssc.sel.sony.com/BroadcastandBusiness/minisites/cinealta/shoot/hdwf900r.shtml) way ahead of the HV20?
2008 February 1st, 01:25
"Looks" are pretty easy any time you can control the lighting.
The lighting IS what actually makes the picture. The camera just records it. Short of any glaring technical problem, (extreme lack of dynamic range, noise, super crappy lenses, etc) any camera can do a decent job.
2008 February 5th, 22:50
I use a 30k betacam and a 16k fujinon lens on my work rig, and I sneak footage from my little HV20 in to some stories! My boss can't tell unless I tell him.
Its all in the composition of the shot. The HV20 will be harder to use without a lens adapter on it
2008 February 6th, 06:16
yes you can get that look with the hv20, or any other camera for that matter. just light badly using hard lights and frame sloppily, but remember that it can be hard if you're taught to do it right. you have to unlearn what you have learned. :-)
2008 February 6th, 08:41
mattias I am puzzled by your post, are you saying that the shoot was framed sloppily? I didn't have anything to do with that clip but I loved the lighting and framing. I hope I am just misunderstanding you post.
2008 February 6th, 13:56
i think it looks like live television. sloppy framing, technically good but uninspired camera moves, and really crude lighting. in a word it looks "christian". i mean it's not *that* bad, but they obviously had a budget and a crew that knew their stuff, so i'm judging it by that standard.
2008 February 6th, 20:32
A valid point sir,
But one must remember one's audience. They where shooting for a Christian crowd probably on some christian tv network.
But we have hijacked this thread for far too long.
The short of it is, yes Terrible, this look is achievable in the HV20.
Mattias is correct in his view of the studio TV look.
As far as the technical aspects of the shoot, I would say they lit the crap out of it in a studio and they said they used a steadicam.
For you to make this "look" would take some real lights not those Home Depots we see alot of. If you didn't do any wide shots you could maybe throw some Arri 500 watts or similar with Chimeras on the subject. It would also take some form of Dolly or a steadicam, it almost looked like a couple of jib shots in there too. Overall a lot of production.
2008 February 12th, 11:54
Sorry for taking so long to reply. I didn't select correctly the notification type.
Thanks for your kind responses. I guess that it is totally achievable with the right lighting.
I know it doesn't look like a movie or TV series or anything like that, it clearly looks like a TV program (live/special), but when I saw it I thought "Could I make a TV Special for my local TV channel with my HV20?"
And of course I was referring to the technical aspect of the camera, not the camera moves or framing.
BTW, I didn't like the song or the speeches, I'm not into that kind of "messages".
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