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2008 January 13th, 04:30
Is this possible?
My NLE is FCE 4, which doesn't support 24p, so I've been messing with settings on the camera to get a film look in 1080i to no avail. Is there any way to do this in either the HV20 or FCE
2008 January 13th, 09:55
Yeah, shoot your video in PF24 and capture as is (not to remove pulldown). You can then edit the video in a 1080i timeline.
2008 January 13th, 21:18
Then export it as 24fps? Will there be artifacts?
2008 January 13th, 21:24
no, you export as 29.97fps.
2008 January 13th, 21:29
Oh... Uhm, I'll try that and see if it works. Thanks :)
2008 January 13th, 21:39
Just don't try to export it for the web. Only for TV/DVD with *interlacing* in tact. Otherwise, you will get ghosting and the only way to make it right would be to remove pulldown first and use a video editor that supports 24p.
2008 January 13th, 22:02
I would say try it first even if you want to output for computer playback or web delivery to see if you notice any ghosting effect. the PF24 mode works fine as is but not high motion content.
2008 January 16th, 20:04
The other problem with the "shoot 24pf and don't do IVTC" advice is that it's easily possible to get a video frame with only one field of a film frame. There are two of them of ever 5 video frames. Those edits will have a definit "pop"
I don't advocate skipping the removal of the 3:2 pulldown. It's a really bad idea IMHO. You are much better of with proper progressive frames.
Actually going BACK to some 60i display device is actually pretty easy once you have the progressive frames aslo. For example, a 23.976fps mpeg2 movie will automatically get 3:2 pulldown when it plays back on a DVD player. The players know how to do it at run time. (most movie DVDs are encoded that way in fact)
Getting your footage progressive (23.976) and keeping it here is just the easiest way to go. There is a reason the industry like 24p so much. It's more than just "film look".
2008 January 23rd, 03:30
I recommend upgrading to FCP 5 or 6 if you really want to use 24p.
If you've shot some already and can't upgrade yet but must work with the material, edit as it in 60i like Taky said and when you're done, run it through JES Deinterlacer. There are many threads on HV20.com that will walk you through this.
It's better to do this BEFORE you edit, but then you'll have 24p files and your FCP can't handle that.
You may end up with a few funky frames here and there in your transitions, but for the most part it should be acceptable.
That is, if you want to display it on a progressive medium, e.g. your computer, web, etc.
If you want to play it through your TV, the TV will handle your interlaced video and play it as Canon meant with the 24p mode.
2008 January 26th, 15:53
the best thing i ever did was spend $100 and buy the Nattress effects download.
The G film look preset is impressive.
When i first saw it i said 'WOW".
it specifically says in the nattress instructions to record your video at 60i framerate. i'm using it with finaal cut express 3. try the free demo and you'll be sold.
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