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jackinthebox
2008 January 3rd, 12:40
http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/12/scientists-time.html


For a decade, scientists have puzzled over a surprising phenomenon: Supernovae stars viewed at extreme distances seem to be moving away from us faster than those nearby.

Most researchers have assumed that the stars have somehow accelerated – or that, more precisely, the rate of the expansion of the post-Big Bang universe itself has accelerated over time.

This was particularly odd given that the universe was thought to be dominated by matter, which should, through the aggregate gravitational effect of each bit pulling on the others, have led to a deaccelerating expansion, rather than the opposite. Thus, scientists have postulated an unknown kind of energy, now known as "dark energy," which would be responsible for the acceleration.

But hold on just a minute.

A group of scientists from the University of the Basque Country in Bilbao, and Spain's University of Salamanca have offered a different idea. Maybe it's the passage of time itself that's slowing down, they say. The distant galaxies only look like they're accelerating because our deep-space telescopes are essentially looking back in time to see them, to when time was going faster.

The theory, outlined in the New Scientist and the UK Telegraph, and in a paper published in Physical Review D, is based on a complex bit of string theory that remains entirely speculative today. Under this theory, our entire universe is embedded in a multidimensional "brane," which itself is floating through a higher dimensional space that we can't detect.

Naturally, the theory has a few chilling conclusions. If time is slowing, it could – in billions of years – actually come to a complete halt, University of the Basque Country professor José Senovilla told New Scientist.

Would that mean everything freezes in place forever? Apparently. Does forever mean anything if time itself has literally stopped? Pass...

In short, a brain twister. Of course, there's a catch, which Senovilla says his group hasn't yet considered. Another group of physicists has postulated that there may actually be two dimensions of time, rather than just one we all know and fear. Which would explain where all that lost time goes, I suppose.

What I find interesting is that they hadn't speculated on a big crunch-like end to universe along with the slowing of time.

That is, what if after everything congeals on the boundaries of the universe in a complete standstill, the universe starts contracting symmetrically as it expanded and time "went backwards" until colliding at the starting point.

GNARLY

JamesW
2008 January 3rd, 23:19
There needs to be a bong rip smiley for something like this...

Mind boggling.

zephyrnoid
2008 January 3rd, 23:42
This is what I believe...
"Naturally, the theory has a few chilling conclusions. If time is slowing, it could – in billions of years – actually come to a complete halt"
I believe there was pure stillness before time (I call it nothingness actually) and time will actually cease to exist when it halts again) Putting it even more chillingly, 'time' is a temporal, timelessness is nothingness is eternal

jackinthebox
2008 January 4th, 07:59
That reminds me of a Steven Wright line that goes something like,
"You don't exist, and then you're born. Then you die and you don't exist. Life is merely an interruption of non-existence."

zephyrnoid
2008 January 4th, 11:35
Not me! I believe the reverse- you exist before you are born and after death- life is illusory :hv20-smilie03:


That reminds me of a Steven Wright line that goes something like,
"You don't exist, and then you're born. Then you die and you don't exist. Life is merely an interruption of non-existence."

vj_jasper
2008 January 5th, 05:44
yes, this is a dream we all play, pretending it is real, while our giant selves stride across galaxies and time. and yet, the illusion lies within the concept that reality is illusion, and so therefore we can only paint the truth rather than describe it in words.

on the positive side of the time-slow issue, it may decrease the amount of rental on Varicams by a slight percentage.

vj_jasper
2008 January 5th, 05:48
i am enjoyably reminded of Tom Waits' speech to the other dude in the prison cell in that fantastic movie "Down By Law". "Yeah man, that's right.. i don't exist.. you don't exist.. these prison walls don't exist... none of this really exists at all".

what a classic, but perhaps it requires Tom Waits to be saying it in person, to actually be funny.

lordtangent
2008 January 17th, 20:09
If time is slowing down does that mean 23.976 is actually 24p?

Erik Bien
2008 January 17th, 20:15
I hope this doesn't mean time is cyclical; that might mean I'd have to sit through the Ice Capades again! :eek:

(h/t Woody Allen)