T-shirt Contest discussion thread

[darthpaully]

Has anyone made T-shirts for forum members before? I would love to have an official HV20.com T-shirt and would happy to help get it going.

I've made some pretty nice Iron-on's in my day but I've always wanted to screen something. Does anyone have any connections or knows the process? I'm sure we could get them cheap ($5-10) if we had a lot of interest. Maybe we could take a headcount?

What would they (or did they) look like? I picture something pretty simple....

Design contest maybe?

[Erik Bien]

I think the powers-that-be are still contemplating a name change for the forum; might want to hold off for a bit ...

[HD-tography]

Design contest maybe?

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I would buy one (or many)... however let me suggest that the design not focus so much on the camera model itself, but rather the film community as a whole... as this forum is thriving even though most (or at least many) have changed cameras since their HVxx... maybe with "HV20.com" on the back... also, as most of you still use the black background/board with green highlights (except me, I use the white and blue board), I would suggest a black t-shirt with the writing and/or logo in the forum's neon green color, giving somewhat of a retro feel to the design.

Contest sounds good to me!

[HD-tography]

I think the powers-that-be are still contemplating a name change for the forum; might want to hold off for a bit ...

Hmm any way to confirm this? Maybe a name contest then! LOL

[paperkut12]

I think the powers-that-be are still contemplating a name change for the forum; might want to hold off for a bit ...

Interesting.

May I suggest, UltimateCameraForumExtreme.com

[darthpaully]

So we do two T's- the new and the original. How cool would it be to have the vintage "throwback" HV20.com T-shirt LOL!

I use the white and blue- easier on the eyes- I agree, the shirt(s), however they end up, should be pretty simple. I'm pretty sure the cheapest screens are 1 color, so I'm thinking like white T's with black lettering- maybe we could do a few diiferent like colored lettering or use colored shirts but keep the logo or font the same.

So, if the shirt is real simple, then it may come down to a FONT contest HAHA...........

HV20.com...... no, wait HV20.com....... or HV20.com.........

Sorry, not much to choose from.:hv20-smilie24:

[HD-tography]

UltimateCameraForumExtreme.com

Hey, it's available too! (wonder why?) I like the "Extreme" part...

My official name suggestions: CinemaClimax.com or ExtremeCanon.com

[HD-tography]

I'm thinking like white T's with black lettering

No thanks Uncle Paully, I can't shoot in a white tee... they get destroyed too quickly... that's why I suggested black tees, perhaps with HV20.com in neon green lettering on the back, and a simple design, outline, or silhouette on the front (perhaps also in neon green which really "POPS" on a black background) that captures the essence of the film community here... for example: a HVFF, a DOF adapter, a follow focus, a clapperboard (my 1st choice), etc. etc. etc.

Something like this, with HV20.com on the back or on the front in the middle of the clapperboard...

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z402/HD-tography/misc/HV20comT-shirt.png

[paperkut12]

perhaps with HV20.com in neon green lettering on the back

You lost me at neon green. But the other ideas I like; something minimal could work.

[HD-tography]

You lost me at neon green.

OK how about the actual forum colors (green on black), like I just posted above?

[Erik Bien]

+1 for black: IMHO the only color for crew wear (and about 80% of my wardrobe).

[HD-tography]

+1 for black: IMHO the only color for crew wear (and about 80% of my wardrobe)

Agreed! What do you think of the design above Erik? Also, is the name change likely just rumor or do you have some inside knowledge being a mod and all?

[paperkut12]

OK how about the actual forum colors (green on black), like I just posted above?

That color looks good.

[darthpaully]

NICE DESIGN!!! I only mentioned white because it's probably cheaper, but I LOVE the black. I like the green too but NEON looks a little cheesy to me. The green in that pic is a little closer to the "green" I think is best.

Nice work HD-tog! (my favorite nephew)

That's going to be hard to beat. It's an obvious, even safe choice, (the clapper) but that's usually what works the best in the long run.

I'd order one right now.....

[Erik Bien]

The name change has been under discussion for awhile; Mal first asked for suggestions in the "mods only" forum back in 2009! He already owns a few domains which might work (i.e., hd-editors.com). I'm sure the secrecy is only because so many of the best .com, .net and .org URLs are already taken.

JM2¢ (and I'm probably in the minority on this), but the slate is a bit cliché to me.

[net]

Interesting.

May I suggest, UltimateCameraForumExtreme.com

How about ForumUltimateCameraKonversations.com? :hv20-smilie87:

[darthpaully]

but the slate is a bit cliché to me.
I agree, but it's simple, makes a statement and would probably be easy for everyone to agree on...

The main issue (unless we vote) will be agreeing on a design.

Maybe we should let everyone submit designs and do a poll? We could put a time limit like the Antman's contest. This way everyone can submit something- The more the merrier, I think.

Hey HD-tog, what did you use to make that pic? I'm no graphic desing guy, but it looks pretty simple. Is there a site or free program that you could recommend so others could make a design? I'd hate to see a good idea not come to fruition because someone doesn't know how to produce it.

If it's been under discussion since 2009, then we should just assume it may never happen. Plus, the site will "always" be HV20.com. so it's not like we'd have to recall the T's.

I'd rather have an HV20.com T shirt anyway- no matter what the name of the site is....

[paperkut12]

How about ForumUltimateCameraKonversations.com? :hv20-smilie87:

I like the way you think.

[Lunchbox]

I will buy one too =)

[HD-tography]

JM2¢ (and I'm probably in the minority on this), but the slate is a bit cliché to me.

Yup, it's true the clapperboard is very cliché, but it works ... I only tossed that up as an example... in fact that design has already be created on a stock t-shirt site... I just changed the colors and wrote HV20.com on it... FYI if you want one (and I mean ONE, they will be happy to print it for you... for about $30 after shipping that is... LOL which is a bit crazy). It was just to get the ball rolling... but it shows the forum's colors are already pretty good and a simple outline/silhouette design goes a long way, so no need to get too detailed, which often raises the price. I don't know who could get us a good volume discount, but whoever is going to do the sales and distribution should be from the USA and very committed.


what did you use to make that pic? I'm no graphic desing guy, but it looks pretty simple. Is there a site or free program that you could recommend so others could make a design? I'd hate to see a good idea not come to fruition because someone doesn't know how to produce it.

I'm no designer either (despite being enrolled in University for "Digital Media Design" to start next year) so for now, I just quickly personalized THIS (http://www.spreadshirt.com/kelly-green-movie-clapperboard-t-shirt-C3376A5722887) one... clicked on "Personalize This Product", changed the t-shirt design color to black, clapperboard design setting to green, added the text "HV20.COM" in "Machine" Font (Size 51) centered on the clapperboard, took a screen shot and then cropped the result... but I'll take a 10% commission just the same :D (funny thing is the person's template I quickly used probably gets a commission if you order one!)

[HD-tography]

Hey Uncle Paully, why don't you change a few different angled pics of the HVFF into a silhouette, pick the best one and design a t-shirt for your fans/customers? You could order a small bundle of them and offer them as an add on option with future sales... or individually to past customers.

[drapeama]

So do we officially start a "design contest"?
I'll try something later tonight if so.

[net]

I just thought of this...

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[drapeama]

I just thought of this...

...powered by CycleWriter, official Curmudgerator on hv20.com

[net]

...powered by CycleWriter, official Curmudgerator on hv20.com

yeh, he's going to buy a case of those shirts to let the noobs in real life know the deal. :hv20-smilie79:

[Mal]

Okay, I'll put my ADMIN hat on for a sec....and I even logged in as MAL, just to make it look more official!

1) The concept of a T-Shirt is great!
2) Before anything gets done, and before anyone proceeds it should be decided on how they get distributed, and how they get funded, and how they get sold.
3) the name indeed will change, but I haven't decided yet what the new name should be, so there's no stopping the T-Shirt from being "hv20.com" for now. There can always be a new one later....

#2 is IMPORTANT!!!! And that needs to be figured out first.

Also,
YOU GUYS REALLY need to upload pictures to our server and not link them elsewhere.
Not everyone in this world lives in the USA, and not everyone in this world has completely unblocked internet!

[net]

YOU GUYS REALLY need to upload pictures to our server and not link them elsewhere.


I removed the link from my post and made it an attachment:


I just thought of this...

11682

[paperkut12]

More serious entry coming when I think of a good idea, or magically have design skill.

[Almohada]

Wow.... I didn't much in this thread besides the first post. I scrolled down and looked at the sample HV20.com tee, then I whipped this one up in Photoshop, only to find out that you guys already mentioned making one with the HVFF!!!!!! :hv20-smilie36:

Anyways here it is only an hour and a half later. Move over homework, let me waste time and make an HVFF t-shirt!!! :hv20-smilie84:

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[Almohada]

how they get funded

Kickstarter.com !!!!

[blondandfun]

here's my design

[Almohada]

Here are a couple high-res images of the digital HVFF graphic:

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[HD-tography]

More serious entry coming when I think of a good idea, or magically have design skill.

Only suitable when the name changes... then you could put the dates in even... until then this place is alive and kickin'!


Well if we're having a contest, these are my official submissions:

A director's chair, a film camera, a film strip, or the clapperboard would all work nicely...

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z402/HD-tography/misc/HV20comDarkChairT-shirt.pnghttp://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z402/HD-tography/misc/HV20comFilmCameraT-shirt.png
http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z402/HD-tography/misc/HV20comFilmStripT-shirt.pnghttp://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z402/HD-tography/misc/HV20comT-shirt.png

[Almohada]

Hey HD I like the film strip!!!

[HD-tography]

Hey, there REALLY IS a mod named Mal (I believe the owner... lol) Sorry, I never even considered the possibility people all people everywhere perhaps couldn't see photobucket links... hmmm who knew!

Here are my submissions to the server:

[HD-tography]

Hey HD I like the film strip!!!

I think the film strip in the front, with the clapper board on the back would be EXTREME! Actually that is now my primary submission:

FRONT

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z402/HD-tography/misc/HV20comFilmStripT-shirt.png

BACK

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z402/HD-tography/misc/HV20comT-shirt.png

[drapeama]

here's my design

Funny one.
I'll try to photoshop something when I get done at work, 3am...

[darthpaully]

Wow, you guys have been busy!!! It looks like this is a home run, so let's get planning. Like Mal said- distribution, funding and selling.

If anyone wants to get involved, we should appoint some "officers" to organize the logistics. Any volunteers? We need to get some quotes and such on shirts so we have an idea of how many to make and how much they will cost etc.

Then we should get the contest going (officially) and set some guidelines- like 3 entries per person or something, and a cut-off date. I guess the contest could start sooner, but having it all figured out ahead of time would be better so we can move as soon as we've figured out the design.

[cgbier]

I like the image in posting #36, but would change front and back.
On the other hand, I live in the tropics, so I'd prefer a bare back.

[musko]

I vote for design in post #36 (http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?42392-HV20.com-T-shirts&p=391211&viewfull=1#post391211), but only one side. Swap image and use only one side (front). Not necessary image on both sides.

I want buy it :hv20-smilie03:

[Erik Bien]

Sites like Cafe Press (http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/index.aspx) and Printfection (http://www.printfection.com/pricing/store) can print and ship t-shirts, coffee mugs, mouse pads and other schwag on demand and even pay a small commission to the referring site ...

[1]

my primary submission:

I like.

But I also would like to point out (as I have before) that I would prefer
to keep the same identity as we have done for the past few years, and as such keep the same FONT!!!!!

It's "SF Atarian System", should be a free download from various sites...

[Almohada]

Wow how did these leak out? :hv20-smilie87:

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[Janke]

Hmmmm... a movie camera and a film strip for a video forum? :hv20-smilie84:

Also, you got the frame line off by half a perforation (it should be between perfs), check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/35_mm

[HD-tography]

Hmmmm... a movie camera and a film strip for a video forum?

Also, you got the frame line off by half a perforation (it should be between perfs), check this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/35_mm

Cool, yeah those images (as stated before) came from a stock site (similar to Cafe Press (http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/index.aspx) and Printfection (http://www.printfection.com/pricing/store)) and reflect a film community, not necessarily this forum's community. I will start thinking of how to best capture this community's spirit on a t-shirt while using the "SF Atarian System" font, however as also stated I'm no graphic designer (yet). Because the name WILL inevitably change one day (soon?), perhaps I will pay tribute to the HXxx series by taking a stock photo of the model into Photoshop, creating a resizeable outline of the main components by selecting with the pen tool, and then bringing that outline (in forum green) onto a black t-shirt with HV20.COM angled across the chest as in the film strip tee posted above. (although many of us, including myself, have never owned a HV model, yet come here daily just the same to discuss various topics)

OTOH it seems to me many of us whether using an HVXX, a solid state version of it like the HF S series, a more pricier XH series camera, or one of a myriad of DSLR's like the T2i/T3i, 60D, 7D, 5D Mark II, Nikon, GH1/GH2, ETC, ETC, ETC... we end up trying to shoot, grade, and edit our footage to look like film anyway, so maybe a film strip or film reel isn't that far off from the essence of this forum's community after all.

[HD-tography]

Sites like Cafe Press and Printfection can print and ship t-shirts, coffee mugs, mouse pads and other schwag on demand and even pay a small commission to the referring site ...

Good option, no possibility of someone becoming overloaded with demand, suddenly dropping dead with our stock, causing amateur shipping errors, or printing too many, however their prices reflect that convenience, coming in at well over $20 a tee even with volume orders.

Perhaps before we go too far we should determine a price point mark to aim for, and estimate a of demand for such tees, like say a percentage of monthly traffic (could we have access to these figures?)

So what are you good people willing to pay anyways? $10 (though unlikely), $15, $20, $25 ??? (is that shipped?)

[Janke]

Many years ago, I bought blank T- shirts for about $2.00 apiece, and exposed & developed my own silk-screen frame (I have a repro camera), and printed the shirts all by myself, using both blue and white ink, depending on shirt color.

Yeah, I'm a tinkerer who has lost a few marbles, and my deck of cards isn't quite complete... :hv20-smilie84:

[drapeama]

I'm in a gold/black mood these days, but I like the design:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_qmIa-UMTxJc/TcwkdLekZcI/AAAAAAAAAnA/aPBcFNJxr6M/s912/HV20_Front%20T-Shirt.png

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_qmIa-UMTxJc/TcwkdNIJ83I/AAAAAAAAAnE/042U6DbTBAQ/s912/HV20_Back%20T-Shirt.png

Sorry, I haven't been able to attach/upload the pictures directly here.

[darthpaully]

Many years ago, I bought blank T- shirts for about $2.00 apiece, and exposed & developed my own silk-screen frame (I have a repro camera), and printed the shirts all by myself, using both blue and white ink, depending on shirt color.
This is what I'm talking about- does anybody make T's or know anyone that does! It could be a lot cheaper and we'd have control every step of the way. This way we could almost make them to order too, have more design or colors, and it probably wouldn't require a ton of cash up front either.

Talking to people I know that have done shirts before from a shop- we should expect each T to be around $10-15 (for quality T's) unless we order like 100 or so, and even then it'll barely dip under $10. That's feasibly $500 or more to get it going.

Either someone will have to come up with that $$$$$ first, we take pre-order collections, or we find a way to produce them ourselves- I know Michael's (craft store) sells a pretty decent screen kit for under $300 but it would move pretty slow. I dunno, tough call here but it should definitely be the first decision made.

Just guessing, I'd think at $10, we should be able to get 50-100 people that would throw down for a shirt. If we decide to have a shop do them maybe we should post a "Do you want an HV20.com T-shirt?" poll and make it a sticky to see how many T's we'd realistically need- that way we're not ordering too many or too little, and we'd have probably have a few leftovers. Heck, if someone wants to put up the cash- let them make the money. It could be an easy way to make some cash if it's done right. I think $10 is the right price though.

So before we all get crazy making (hilarious/awesome/inappropriate/funny/cool) designs, let's figure out how we're going to make it happen....

[Almohada]

Guys, how about KICKSTARTER? Let's do $1000 for 100 tee's. 30 days to raise the funds, minimum pledge $10, some could donate more if they'd like. I think that is the best way to do it and will be very organized when sending stuff out..

[TiE_Shepherd]

Guys, how about KICKSTARTER? Let's do $1000 for 100 tee's. 30 days to raise the funds, minimum pledge $10, some could donate more if they'd like. I think that is the best way to do it and will be very organized when sending stuff out..

That's a lot of shirts to sell. Not saying it couldn't/wouldn't happen, but going through all kickstarter hoops seems like making things more complicated than they need to me. Plus if you don't sell all the shirts then you're left with nothing and have to start all over again. It would be easier (if the right person could be selected) for someone to handle everything without messing with running it through kickstarter.

Also something to keep in mind for people designing shirts. The more colors/sides you start adding the more it will raise the price with a screen printer.

I have a 4 color press I picked up for printing some shirts for a few friends on the side, but I don't have the time to get it all set up yet and wouldn't be ready to run something like this till this summer.

[1]

KICKSTARTER

Absolutely NOT!

For what we want to do here, that is about the LEAST favorable option.

[Almohada]

Yeah I just thought about it some more, it wouldn't work anyways...
I was checking out Vista Print and they have a sale for plain shirts with front design for $4.75 each!! I think the best way is if someone on here does screen printing...

[drapeama]

I can check, near from where I work there's a sport store that offers that service. To print something on a t-shirt, front and back, it wouldn't be much expensive I think. I'll make a phone call tomorow and let you know.

[1]

I recommend to use a service that Erik suggested. Everything else would not be very good, as it involves an initial investment, and someone to handle shipping etc.
Let's not make this more complicated than it is.

[drapeama]

Let's not make this more complicated than it is.

Good point. But still I'm curious to know how much it would be. I like my own concept, maybe I'll do it for myself.

[blondandfun]

well, the teeshirt idea isn't about advertising, it's more about just the members of this forum who need something to wear around the house and/or going to workout and it goes to a good cause.This "quasi-business' will have to have a purpose. If there is a purpose other that profit, like something that can be accomplished. There has to be a story. STORY people, just like in filmmaking, business is similar. Even if people wear these shirts around the house I think they will buy them if they feel like something purposeful has gone into this other than profit. Even if the money goes to educating youth about filmmaking or about promoting the arts, something like that would be nice. Or even helping out the victims of Japan, where Canon is based, would be a good cause, and I think many would buy the shirts.

[HD-tography]

Perhaps we can have that design contest AFTER doing thorough research to find out which host site offers the best rate on distribution, then link up the final design(s) to that site with any profits/commission from sales going to fund prizes for the monthly film contest here on HV20.com, perhaps with one of the t-shirts themselves being a prize, like one for the forum and one that says winner of the contest, etc. Depending on future profits, it may eventually yield some "actual" prizes one day... Until then all you good people can all buy several of them and sit around your houses in front of your computers wearing them, take photos of yourselves and post them on the forum, and think of excuses why you are not out shooting something :D

Or... you could always throw one on, shut up, and get out there to shoot something worthwhile! Then people on the street will see you and ask you if you are a big film producer, and you can tell them YES and that you learned everything you know at HV20.COM, thereby increasing traffic, growing the community, and selling more t-shirts so others can also discover the joys of capturing/editing HD video!

hmmm... dunno where I was going with that... but anyways, I think I had some kind of point... hmmm

[darthpaully]

Or even helping out the victims of Japan, where Canon is based, would be a good cause, and I think many would buy the shirts.
This is a GREAT concept, but honestly- it sounds like a lot of work. Let's just make a T-shirt first.... If it works out then we can up the stakes.

Plus, and more importantly, we DO have a story here. In fact many. They may not be romantic all the time, but they're there- you don't have to think too hard to come up with one...

I think most would agree that these T-shirts are long overdue, so the purpose for getting one is already "built in" for most. I think the profit part is just a simple and effective way of repaying the person who puts up the money. It's like playing blackjack at a home game- The guy with all the money gets to be the bank- and have a better chance of winning. That's the price they get for facilitating the game....

Who is our facilitator?

[darthpaully]

:hv20-smilie77:
Perhaps we can have that design contest AFTER doing thorough research to find out which host site offers the best rate on distribution, then link up the final design(s) to that site with any profits/commission from sales going to fund prizes for the monthly film contest here on HV20.com, perhaps with one of the t-shirts themselves being a prize, like one for the forum and one that says winner of the contest, etc. Depending on future profits, it may eventually yield some "actual" prizes one day... Until then all you good people can all buy several of them and sit around your houses in front of your computers wearing them, take photos of yourselves and post them on the forum, and think of excuses why you are not out shooting something

Or... you could always throw one on, shut up, and get out there to shoot something worthwhile! Then people on the street will see you and ask you if you are a big film producer, and you can tell them YES and that you learned everything you know at HV20.COM, thereby increasing traffic, growing the community, and selling more t-shirts so others can also discover the joys of capturing/editing HD video!

hmmm... dunno where I was going with that... but anyways, I think I had some kind of point... hmmm
+1,000,000,000,000

[HD-tography]

I think the profit part is just a simple and effective way of repaying the person who puts up the money. It's like playing blackjack at a home game- The guy with all the money gets to be the bank- and have a better chance of winning. That's the price they get for facilitating the game....

Hey Uncle Paully, Card Game At My Place... Bring Your Money!!! :hv20-smilie79:

I would consider it but the facilitator has gotta be from the USA, cross border shipping is really getting ridiculous with our Canadian dollar being worth so much more than the greenback...

OTOH just a few seconds ago I just bought a Canon EF 28mm 1.8 USM for my T3i for under $450 USD shipped, which is less than $430 Canadian, and locally that lens is worth over $700 after taxes!!! SWEET!!! Go LOONIE GO!!! (that's what they call our dollar here, lol)

[darthpaully]

Hey Uncle Paully, Card Game At My Place... Bring Your Money!!!
You're on! How long a drive is it from California to Winnipeg?

[HD-tography]

You're on! How long a drive is it from California to Winnipeg?

Hmmmm lets see, from Roseville, CA it's 31 hours straight through on the I-80 E for 1,798 miles... see ya Saturday night sometime if ya leave in the morning! LOL I'll put the coffee on :hv20-smilie77:

[darthpaully]

See you Saturday.....


I recommend to use a service that Erik suggested. Everything else would not be very good, as it involves an initial investment, and someone to handle shipping etc.
Let's not make this more complicated than it is.

I just checked these out and I agree that this is the way to go. A little pricier, but we'd have all kinds of options from mugs to hoodies and it would only require uploading the designs. Done.

I suppose someone would have to be in charge of the "store" but it doesn't appear that these type of sites requires a whole lot of time. Who wants to work the register?

If we go the cafe press or printfection route then all we have to do is have the contest to decide the "official" designs. I think that it's important we don't make it a free for all, rather go with a handful of designs picked by forum memebers.

[blondandfun]

OTOH just a few seconds ago I just bought a Canon EF 28mm 1.8 USM for my T3i for under $450 USD shipped, which is less than $430 Canadian, and locally that lens is worth over $700 after taxes!!! SWEET!!! Go LOONIE GO!!! (that's what they call our dollar here, lol)

Congrats! For my t3i, I just ordered a Sigma 28mm F1.8 for $400. It will be fun/interesting comparing our lenses.

[HD-tography]

Congrats! For my t3i, I just ordered a Sigma 28mm F1.8 for $400. It will be fun/interesting comparing our lenses.

I was watching that one too used on eBay, then it hit $300 USD and I decided to just wait for the Canon... the used resale on the Canon has been steady at $450-$500 so I really got a steal on this baby... yeah I will defiantly shoot some tests with it, and may release some of my actual working footage if not too sensitive to my current project. I am also booked for trying my hand at some weddings this summer, so I will own all that footage for my demo reel, so one way or the other I'll get some actual working footage up. BIF's got one as well... great normal focal length with a cropped sensor DSLR... anyways...

BACK TO THE T-SHIRT DEBATE... So who's runnin' this show anyways... any takers? :D

[HD-tography]

If we go the cafe press or printfection route then all we have to do is have the contest to decide the "official" designs. I think that it's important we don't make it a free for all, rather go with a handful of designs picked by forum memebers.

Yeah, but somehow whoever works the register should be funneling the money back to the site somehow, in my opinion to go towards prizes for the resident film contest or something of the like... also, keep in mind the design should ideally be resizeable, probably one or 2 simple colors, using the "SF Atarian System" font for the lettering, and if it's an outline should have a transparent image/background.

[Erik Bien]

Tellin' y'all, Printfection: I believe t-shirts (no limit on colors) start at $16 each before quantity discounts kick in. They provide the web 'storefront' and the 'shopping cart' and (assuming we don't sell them 'at cost') will send any 'profits' anywhere we specify.

[Timbit]

I'm starting to get excited... :p

[Almohada]

I can't wait!

[darthpaully]

OK, so are we all in agreement on printfection then? I think it's time to get the contest going...

How about the submission's first- Not sure how to do it other than a thread and everyone gets one post to leave their entries. I'd say no more than 3 per person wiht a time limit of a week or two at most. Once the design(s) are uploaded then it's on whoever wants one. Not as communal this way, but at least I can get an HV20.com 3/4 sleeve baseball shirt without having to guy a truckload of them.

If admin's have any ideas for the contest please tell us what to do. I would say a page or site with all the designs would be cool but I don't know.

[darthpaully]

I made a printfection store today. I called it "HV20.com Gear":
http://www.printfection.com/HV20gear

Nothing there yet but it only took a few minutes to set up. As long it as it doesn't require too much extra time, I don't mind taking the reigns on this one. I have a lot interest in T-shirt designing and selling anyway so this might be the 101 course I need.

If nobody objects, let's get the contest going.... I'm going to post a "T-shirt contest" thread. I think that nobody should post except for participants- I'll say 3 entries per person- that's fair enough, and the deadline should be..... uhh, how bout June 1? That gives everyone a few weeks to get something together.

Do I need an admin approval here? Well, feel free to override me here if necessary- I just want a darn T-shirt!! I think printfection will be perfect...

[Erik Bien]

I'm not an Admin, but I'll second paully's motion and nomination. I would suggest contestants familiarize themselves with Printfection's pricing and artwork recommendations for T-shirts (http://www.printfection.com/customer/custom.php?currentid=&level=&mode=detail&rootid=7&invoptid=2619).

[drapeama]

Great, I'll try to think of two more designs and I'll post them in that thread for sure.
Any possibility to have more than only one design, let's say if it's not everybody that likes it? Just asking, just in case...

[Almohada]

Let's get this thing rolling... wanna have my HV20.com shirt by summertime!

[charlie_tango]

i would like one too.

[darthpaully]

Ok so I have Mal's support and help on the contest. We agreed that a few different designs would be good and that printfection is the place we'll go with... It's just easier this way and the prices won't be too bad.

I'm going to create a "contest thread"- where ONLY participants can post their entries. We'll keep it open until June 1- It should be pretty easy to select the one(s) you like.

So we settled on three entries per person, but now we need to figure out how many votes each voter gets. I'm thinking 2 or 3 but I can't decide. Any ideas? I want to get this going ASAP.

[Almohada]

2 votes!!!!!! If they get 3 votes it will take forever! Narrow it down to two!!!! This is gonna be awesome!!!!!

Nice title by the way.

[darthpaully]

2 votes!!!!!! If they get 3 votes it will take forever! Narrow it down to two!!!! This is gonna be awesome!!!!!
The problem is whether or not we allow particpants to vote... I'm sure everyone would vote for themselves which would make a HUGE tie a large possibility. We have to get enough votes to get the numbers up so there will be a clear winner(s).

I'm thinking NO voting for participants just to make if fair. I'm waiting to see of Mal agrees on this or not before posting the contest thread...

[Janke]

which would make a HUGE tie

A tie with a T-shirt? Weirdos...

Besides, that's old stuff already:

11740

[darthpaully]

(drumroll)

[Almohada]

I don't know, maybe the participants are required to vote for themselves just so it's fair. I don't know which polling program you're going to use but it's kinda hard to regulate that. If you're going to use the Poll feature on the forum, I think you can see whether or not they voted. If the participants do not vote, and the designs are very close, their one vote can make it or break it. That's why if going through the forum, the participants should all vote on their design right in the beginning so we know for sure they can't add that one vote later on when it's close. .... Unless there's a way to ban them from voting through the forum but I don't think this vBulletin software has that feature. Maybe...

Just my thoughts...

[darthpaully]

I don't know, maybe the participants are required to vote for themselves just so it's fair
It's kind of the same either way. I was going to say the same thing except that instead of them voting, we'd just add one to everyone at the end. Either way the total number stays the same, therefore NOT helping the situation. Let's just call it a wash- it's not like a contestant is going to vote for someone else's design anyway, so let's just get rid of all of their votes. Unless, of course, EVERYONE decides to enter a design! LOL

The best way to do the actual vote may be to just start a thread, that way everyone's votes can be accounted for and checked. I don't think we NEED it to be anonymous. It would be fun this way too because the voting could be tracked by all. The results could also be checked by anyone, and everyone is involved.

It's a simple idea, but I don't see it getting any easier any other way...

[Daniel Rutter]

Would you guys be interested in supplying T-shirts to the Antmans Short Film Contest?

[Almohada]

Yeah I was gonna say that but it all depends on the polling system.

I saw the new thread. Hope we get in a lot of entries within the next two weeks. Don't forget, you also need to post some specs. Most likely the designs have to be at least 300 dpi and probably best to have them in their native software file (.psd, etc...) so the print shop can use that instead of a low-res jpg. Very important step there to ensure they don't delete the .psd and keep only the .jpg

[Almohada]

Would you guys be interested in supplying T-shirts to the Antmans Short Film Contest?


1. Post ONLY your designs in this thread. Do not post anything else- no comments, votes etc. This thread is ONLY for design entries and moderators.

Daniel?! :hv20-smilie49:

[drapeama]

Hey darth, could you turn the official design thread into a Poll, so user could vote for their favorite designs? Just a suggestion, as you're now, moderating things!

[1]

A poll can be added once persons have submitted their entries....

[drapeama]

A poll can be added once persons have submitted their entries....

I know, maybe I asked a bit too early. I just wanted to know if it was possible or not to allow everyone to choose their favorite design...or if darth prefered to select the winner with selected judges only.

[1]

It's all described here:
http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?42461-The-Official-HV20.com-T-shirt-Design-Contest

[drapeama]

It's all described here:
http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?42461-The-Official-HV20.com-T-shirt-Design-Contest

Sorrry, I probably need some coffe this morning...or to get back to bed...

[darthpaully]

So I've had a few questions already regarding format, size, dimensions of the designs for the contest. I don't really have any answers so I figured we could all discuss the logistics out loud...

The main thing is to have the entries turned in on time and as close to actual dimensions as possible. I'm not even sure how many colors we can use or front and back etc. so let's all just try and get them in the way they should look...

If anyone wants to suggest an easy site(s)to get your design done- go right ahead!

I think each entry should be turned in on a T-shirt background template. If you have any trouble, just ask around.

Let's see some entries guys!!

[1]

Here some more info:

1)
Official hv20.com logo font: "SF Atarian System", a free download from many places


2)
Printfection FAQ: http://www.printfection.com/customer/custom.php?tab=4

Printfection recommends to save as PNG

Max. printing area (center) is 13.5" x 16.5", with 200 PPI

Download template: http://www.printfection.com/help/product_templates

More info on preparing images: http://www.printfection.com/help/article.php?articleid=27


3)
A free and neat SVG graphics editor is: inkscape (http://www.inkscape.org/)

[charlie_tango]

i don't get it...could you please explain the second one? :)

[1]

Room-Temperature FerroMagnetism?


Realtime Traffic Flow Measurement?

:hv20-smilie84:

[Almohada]

LMAO. You already got my vote.

[charlie_tango]

ok i am not sure i'm getting it, but i'd buy one!! lol

[Daniel Rutter]

RTFM:
Read the F*cking Manual.

[drapeama]

RTFM:
Read the F*cking Manual.

Thanks Dan! (Bare in mind that Charlie and I are French speakers first!)

[drapeama]

Quick one for now. 1st image center chest, 2nd upper back.

ROTFL! Excellent one!

[darthpaully]

Good Job so far guys, it's starting to get good- although nobody is following the "no comments" rule... including me now.

I'm thinking that if you can't get it perfect or on a T-shirt background, just leave a simple description like paperkut in post #12, as long as it's specific enough for us to figure out...

[Almohada]

Quick one for now. 1st image center chest, 2nd upper back.

LMAAAOOO!!!! I'd get that!

[1]

couple of entries

net, that second one can't be printed (text location).

[darthpaully]

Well, it looks like everyone is just using the actual design thread for comments! LOL

Let's everyone try and go with the Printfection recommendations for your entries, but if you can't figure it out or whatever then just get something in.

I'm thinking that after we've declared the winners, we'll work with them to make sure we have the highest quality images etc. getting screened. Just make sure to be specific if your not posting on a T-shirt background otherwise you might be subjected to someone else's interpretation, i.e. location of text, colors, style of T-shirt.

What we have so far is looking pretty good- ONE MORE WEEK to make an entry so get going!!

[net]

darthpaully... could you please delete my first post in the contest thread, (but leave the second post (time @ 18:50) saying that here are my "official" entries):


This is the post that needs to be deleted (please delete the whole post (5/22/11@16:25):

Here are a couple of entries from me...

Mal had pointed out that the text on one of the shirts was out of range, so I posted a second comment with the fixed version/which contains both entries.

Asking for a delete because don't want to confuse potential voting.

Thank you. :hv20-smilie77:

[darthpaully]

Got it net, and done.

[drapeama]

Can't wait to know who's the winner, and what will be the official hv20.com T-Shirt.

[Almohada]

Can't wait to know who's the winner, and what will be the official hv20.com T-Shirt.

Same here!

[drapeama]

Same here!

I'd like one of mine to be perfectly selfish and honnest!

[Almohada]

I'd like one of mine to be perfectly selfish and honnest!

Same here!

[net]

My second entry (this one is only a concept, actual look will change - for instance: some names will be changed/omitted/truncated (such as when last name is used)):

(front is same as last entry)

11851

Mal, your entry is impressive..it must have been taken forever to go through all the user names. :hv20-smilie15::hv20-smilie77:

it compelled me to add this to it:

11853

/not an entry, just for fun

[1]

..it must have been taken forever to go through all the user names.

Luckily, I can pull a list with members based on post count directly from the admin panel! :)
(I did add some "characters" to it also.)

I LIKE your mod....that should be possible to include!

[net]

Luckily, I can pull a list with members based on post count directly from the admin panel! :)
(I did add some "characters" to it also.)

I LIKE your mod....that should be possible to include!

If you want to do a variation on it or just use that one...it's yours. :hv20-smilie77:

[darthpaully]

Mal, that crossword idea is AWESOME!! I can't read it very well- are those user names on there?

That's gonna be hard to beat...

[Almohada]

Mal, that crossword idea is AWESOME!! I can't read it very well- are those user names on there?

That's gonna be hard to beat...

Yes!!!! My name is dead center!!!!!!

[Steve_Karl]

Entry updated with proper T-Shirt pics:

1184611845

1184711848

Leave the stuff off the back and I'd wear it.
Leave it on and it would just become a dust rag in my house.

[Steve_Karl]

My second entry (this one is only a concept, actual look will change - for instance: some names will be changed/omitted/truncated (such as when last name is used)):

(front is same as last entry)

11851

Dust rag only! Way to big and busy.

[Almohada]

I didn't want to say anything but yeah the RTFM on the back is too grungy and the edges are very choppy.

[Almohada]

Guys, 5 more days left to get your entries in!

[drapeama]

Guys, 5 more days left to get your entries in!

Then the public poll starts?

[Timbit]

Mal, that crossword idea is AWESOME!!
I'd buy it. But that's because it has my name on it... ;) The only change I might suggest is changing the t-shirt colour to black. I look awful wearing white. :p

[1]

I look awful wearing white.

It should be understood that the entries are only CONCEPTS - final colors & details can be adjusted if they are actually to be printed.

(I've added a black version of the "crossword" concept.)

[Timbit]

Okay.. :)

[Almohada]

I like 'em.

[Almohada]

Aw man! My name isn't dead center any more on the black crossword shirt... :(
Hey Darth your name is at the top on that one! easy to find

[net]

It should be understood that the entries are only CONCEPTS - final colors & details can be adjusted if they are actually to be printed.

(I've added a black version of the "crossword" concept.)

Shirts look good; basic and to the point.

Got me thinking about your plan to eventually change the name of the site.
Maybe you could consider changing the meaning of "HV20" instead...
For example: High(Def) Video 20
Holistic Video 20
Holographic Video 20, (as in year 2020), etc...

Or possibly name it "HV20.com" as just a name without the images of the HV20/30 cameras, but still keep sections dedicated to the HV20 info, while prioritizing newer cameras.
Maybe have the meaning of HV20 in the FAQ.

Just a thought. When I saw your shirts, I realized the name HV20.com is short, simple and it sticks.

[darthpaully]

We are down to just over 24 hours before the deadline to enter the HV20.com T-shirt design contest!

We have some GREAT entries so far (there's one that I REALLY like) and I am so excited to get the voting going. I think there are still members out there that want to get an entry in, so if you do want to be a part of the contest:

Get your design in NOW!

Once again, the deadline is 12:00 am June 1st wherever you are. Please try and get all entries in before then so we can get the voting going.

Good Luck everyone!

[Almohada]

there's one that I REALLY like

Hmmmm... ;)

[Almohada]

Guys, I don't know if I can get anything in by June 1st. I'm out of ideas + Finals week :/

[darthpaully]

There's still time so get your designs in today- HURRY!! If you need help or are unsure what to do, then please ask around. We have around 20 entries so far but I'd like to see a few more....

LET'S SEE WHAT KIND OF ARTICTIC TALENT Y'ALL HAVE!! THERE'S STILL TIME TO ENTER!!! HURRY WITH YOUR DESIGN!!!

[darthpaully]

THE POLLS ARE OPEN!! You can vote for 3 designs- please try and use all 3 votes so we get a clear winner(s).

VOTE HERE: http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?42621-The-Official-T-Shirt-CONTEST-Voting-POLL

Thanks to all our contestants for putting up their designs! We have a GREAT line-up to choose from and I think it's going to be VERY close!

GO AND CAST YOUR VOTE FOR BEST DESIGN AND HELP EVERYONE UPDATE THEIR WARDROBE!!

This poll will close on 2011 June 9th at 03:50 Good Luck everyone!

[ejolson]

Got me thinking about your plan to eventually change the name of the site.
Maybe you could consider changing the meaning of "HV20" instead...
For example: High(Def) Video 20

High definition Vision 20/20?

[Timbit]

High definition Vision 20/20?
Hritzuk Eye Institute. :p

[Almohada]

Congrats everyone!!!! You guys know which one I'm getting, hahahaha!

[drapeama]

Cool I finished 2nd after all!
Mal, about that .png file of that size, where should we post it?

[darthpaully]

Congrats to 1 and Paperkut for tieing for 3rd place! A huge high-five goes to a relieved drapeama after his design sweated it out for 2nd!
And thanks to everyone for voting me, darthpaully as 1st Place! I am truly honored to represent the forum

We will have all four winning designs available in the HV20.com merchandise shop soon.

Winners, make sure that everything looks as it should and that you are following the printfection guidlines for best quality. I'm not very experienced so 1 is going to get it all up, but if you guys need any help or have questions I'd be happy to help.

Once we get everything up at printfection and the store is OPEN we will let everyone know. Thanks again all contestants and voters for all your input! I'm sure we'll find a reason to do this again REALLY soon. REMEMBER- ANY proceeds from t-shirt sales are going to go toward future prizes- this is so cool!! Hopefully it will inspire others to go out and film something...

I can't wait to start a "Me, in my hv20.com t-shirt" thread!!!

[1]

The winners need to design FINAL artwork for printing!



The designs will have to be refined and finalized - this has to be done in accordance with the requirements of Printfection, by the person who entered/submitted the design.
Requirements are here:
Printfection FAQ: http://www.printfection.com/customer/custom.php?tab=4
Printfection recommends to save as PNG
Max. printing area (center) is 13.5" x 16.5", with 200 PPI
Download template: http://www.printfection.com/help/product_templates
More info on preparing images: http://www.printfection.com/help/art...p?articleid=27 (http://www.printfection.com/help/article.php?articleid=27)

The final designs will have to be sent via email to me once finished. PM me for email address, or use CONTACT US at bottom of page.

Once that's all done, we will make available the T-Shirt purchase....



First place:

17:12056


Second place:

03:12054




Third place - shared (tie):

05:12057

10:12055

[Almohada]

I can't wait to start a "Me, in my hv20.com t-shirt" thread!!!

Way ahead of you brother... damnit... alright you can start it since you were 1st place.

[darthpaully]

way ahead of you brother... Damnit... Alright you can start it since you were 1st place.
muhahaha!

[paperkut12]

The shirt I actually tried to make look nice and took some time with doesn't make it..but the one I spent a couple minutes on does LOL. Cool, either way.

[drapeama]

The shirt I actually tried to make look nice and took some time with doesn't make it..but the one I spent a couple minutes on does LOL. Cool, either way.

The #5 is the best because of the insight! Don't worry about that! ;)

[paperkut12]

The #5 is the best because of the insight! Don't worry about that! ;)

I do like it. I will have to buy a couple different shirts :).

[drapeama]

I will have to buy a couple different shirts :).

Same here!
Charlie btw really liked your entry #5! She'll be buying that one for sure!

[Almohada]

Change it to "I survived Almohada's Game #260" and I'll buy one for everyone who participated in that game LOL!!

[paperkut12]

Change it to "I survived Almohada's Game #260" and I'll buy one for everyone who participated in that game LOL!!

You sure you wanna do that? lol

[1]

Just a small note:

The pics I need have to be background-transparent PNGs with the size of 2700 x 3300 (two images, if there's a back & front),
and maybe also make a few different colors/color-schemes, so they can match-up with several T-Shirt colors okay.

[Almohada]

You sure you wanna do that? lol

Alright how about if I buy one for whoever has actually seen it? hahaha

[Almohada]

Any updates? Weather is warming up!

[1]

Any updates?

Update: It's not happening! :(

...since drape is the only one who completed the task of sending me the PNG file (well, mine is done also).

[Almohada]

Update: It's not happening! :(

...since you are the only one who completed the task of sending me the PNG file (well, mine is done also).

What? Why?? What do mean??? :(

Huh? I never sent you any PNG file. I didn't know you wanted the HVFF shirt that bad...

[1]

No I meant drape, not you, sorry!

I can't be bothered to chase down paper and darth for the files....so....sorry.....

[HD-tography]

HaHaHa MADNESS... Well this sucks... it's one thing to design a small bitmap or jpeg image and upload it to the server... but maybe the contestants didn't know how to design on a size adjustable transparent background .png

SUCKS if that is the case, maybe someone with a bit of knowhow and some time could do it for them?

I didn't have any time to do it properly so I failed to submit any of my purposed entries.

[paperkut12]

Oh lalalala, sorry. I totally forgot I had an entry in this. I'm not really skilled at photoshop so it might take me a while; I haven't really messed with it. (uber-noob)

[Almohada]

Oh lalalala, sorry. I totally forgot I had an entry in this. I'm not really skilled at photoshop so it might take me a while; I haven't really messed with it. (uber-noob)

Papes, yours should be fairly easy :)

Gonna see me modeling yours on the official "show us your HV20.com t-shirt" thread

[paperkut12]

Alright, I'm done with my files (quicker than I thought) and send a message over to 1. Now it's up to Darth for the last part.

[drapeama]

No I meant drape, not you, sorry!

Yeah, so at least you received it!

[1]

okay now it's only darth that's missing

[darthpaully]

Sorry guys, I'm not forgetting the T-shirt thing but I'm not having an easy time of it. I'll be working on it tonight (now) and hopefully I'll figure it out.

I'll seek help if need be- I want my T's too...

[darthpaully]

OK, I've accosted draps for help!! I want this done tonight!

Or Paper, I think I'm in your boat (uber-noob) with this design stuff- maybe you could give me the caveman's tutorial...

Wait, where's Almo? You good at this stuff Vice?

[1]

See, just a good 'ol bitch&moan, and things get done around here! :)

I'll be looking for the mail, darth......whenever you get it done.

Want them T's!

[Almohada]

Darth this is what I do but I am not home at the moment. Sorry guys won't be home for another hour

[darthpaully]

Alright, Almohada is helping me get this done- it looks great. Won't be long now!

Can't wait to go shopping!

[darthpaully]

Got the word that it's sent.

It won't be long before the GRAND OPENING of the HV20.com gear shop!

Anybody wanna camp out and tailgate the night before? We could roast marshmellows, play guitar, and pass around a dirty bottle of brown liquor... good times...

[paperkut12]

*sets up chair*

[Almohada]

*sets up chair*

*sets up chair next to paperkut* :hv20-smilie07:

[darthpaully]

*passes bottle of brown liquor to the left.....*

[HD-tography]

*Drives rickety old rusted out pickup truck to party and drops the tailgate... plays out of tune geetair and begins singing "Kumbayah"*

[1]

Got the word that it's sent.

Got an empty inbox to prove that it never arrived!

[darthpaully]

Hmmm, let me see what happened...

[Almohada]

Got an empty inbox to prove that it never arrived!

Ohhhhh my. I don't remember darth saying anything about sending it to you, Mal. Damn you, Facebook!
I emailed it to darth only and when he said "Got the word that it's sent." I thought he meant it's being sent to HIS email.

I will PM(?) it over to you right now.

Sorry about that.

[Almohada]

Guys I couldn't figure out how to attach it to a PM. It will have to wait until tomorrow... getting too late here. Don't know when Mal will get back to me.

[darthpaully]

Sorry Almo, my fault- I sent it in last night. I haven't heard anything so I assume it's all good. Thanks again for the help!

[drapeama]

So, what's happening with the store? Everyone sent his design to Mal...any idea how much time it can take?

[Almohada]

Sorry Almo, my fault- I sent it in last night. I haven't heard anything so I assume it's all good. Thanks again for the help!

You must have gotten my PM. Thanks!!! Yeah could not go on my computer yesterday and the night before it was real late so either I missed it or that part about sending it to Mal didn't go through.

[1]

Everyone sent his design to Mal...


I have 'em all now. Will set up something today, IF time permits....

[drapeama]

I have 'em all now. Will set up something today, IF time permits....

Cool, I was just wondering! I didn't wanted to sound rude...

[darthpaully]

WOOHOO! The shop is almost open!!

[drapeama]

The shop is almost open!!

Good! And I ordered a couple of things recently, I'll have to wait on my next pay to afford me a T-Shirt...
12201 [...] 12202

[Almohada]

And I ordered a couple of things recently, I'll have to wait on my next pay to afford me a T-Shirt...

Let's see a pic of you wearing an official HV20.com shirt with your new monopod haha

[drapeama]

Let's see a pic of you wearing an official HV20.com shirt with your new monopod haha
As soon as I'll receive them I'll take a picture with all my stuff, T-Shirt included! :hv20-smilie77:

[paperkut12]

If this store doesn't open soon I will riot like the people of Vancouver!

(Kidding)

..There's no windows to break in the internet. :)

[drapeama]

...There's no windows to break in the internet. :)

Depends...Huey could state that there's way to break Windows© only using the internet!

[paperkut12]

Depends...Huey could state that there's way to break Windows© only using the internet!

I knew a Windows jab was coming lol.

[Almohada]

Are you going to break Windows with Apples? Granny Smith or Red Delicious??

[drapeama]

Are you going to break Windows with Apples? Granny Smith or Red Delicious??

Granny Smith, definitively...they're the best ones!
Anyway, back to topic guys?! ;)

[Almohada]

*pulls chair back up*

[1]

Store now open:

http://www.printfection.com/hv20

[darthpaully]

WOW!! It looks GREAT!! So many colors!!

Thanks to everyone for making this happen! I'm so happy that we all got involved. I'm so thankful to be a part of this community!

I'll post a "Show us your HV20.com T-shirt" thread in a few days so keep your eyes peeled!

GO GET YOUR HV20.COM GEAR!

[darthpaully]

I just posted the "Show us your t-shirt" thread here:

http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?42964-Official-quot-Show-us-your-HV20.com-T-shirt-quot-thread-(You-and-your-T-shirt-in-action)

Waitin' on my Tee....